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    TE?

    Ive seen Eddie House play for years.

    Hes an undersized shooting guard who shoots threes. Not hard to guard that.

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    TE=money from JJ trade...

    easy to guard...
    Ranks #4 in the NBA in Field Goals Per 48 Minutes(11.67)
    Ranks #3 in the NBA in Field-Goal Attempts Per 48 Minutes(26.48)
    Ranks #1 in the NBA in Three-Point Field Goals Per 48 Minutes(4.09)
    Ranks #14 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes(28.9)
    has 6 saves for PHX...

    pretty good #'s for a guy who is undersized and easy to guard...

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    The Suns playing better defense this year is pretty much a myth. Yes, their opponents are scoring a lot less points (103.3 in 04-05 vs. 97.4, or ranked dead last in 04-05, and #17 this year), but that is mainly due to them playing at a slower pace. Their defensive FG% has only improved slightly (44.462% last year vs. 43.325% this year, or #10 last year vs. #8 this year).
    Amare is an amazing offensive player, and he has great hops and unbelievable hands catching passes from Nash, but a player is more than that. His defense has great room for improvement, his passing is suspect, and let's not forget that the reason he scored almost 40ppg on the Spurs last year in the WCF was because the Spurs were stopping Nash on every single pick and roll, the strategy works. I remember seeing Amare blowing important layups in the 4th quarter in narrow losses in at least 2 games.
    Amare has loads of potential, but he is only, at best the 2nd most important player on his team.
    BTW, the Suns are the Spurs #1 threat in the West, Dallas a close second.

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    you don't think the Suns are playing better D??? are you serious.??..even Stevie has been playing good D as of late.

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    not nitpicking, but house went 0-4 in 14:29 last game vs spurs. dude can score, but he is not really someone you need to worry about. "better" d is a relative term.

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    The suns' future rests on Amare's recovery. If Amare recovers quickly and has it all going again by playoff time, I think the suns have a legitimate chance at going all the way. But if he isn't up to par, then no way.

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    you don't think the Suns are playing better D??? are you serious.??..even Stevie has been playing good D as of late

    yeah right....

    No I dont.

    Not until they get a different coach whos at ude is that "Defense is just time spent waiting for your next offensive possession"

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    If Amare recovers quickly and has it all going again by playoff time, I think the suns have a legitimate chance at going all the way
    Chance yes.

    Legit?? No.

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    If they have a chance, doesn't that automatically mean its legit? You cant have a chance and yet not be legit. ???

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    You can have a chance.

    Everyone that makes it in the playoffs has a chance techinically.

    But legit is

    San Antonio
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    Meaning, something extra ordinary would keep them from reaching the Conference Finals, or NBA Finals.

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    you don't think the Suns are playing better D??? are you serious.??..even Stevie has been playing good D as of late.
    no I don't, and I showed the numbers to back it up. Slowing down the pace != better defense, it just means they are playing at a slower pace. I do admit that they are a better half court team on offense though (not as potent on the fast break as last year), with a few guys who can create for others (Diaw ... eh ... yeah, that's it).
    The Suns are a very good team, but as a Spurs fan, I still think the Spurs are better, and will probably beat them in 5 or 6 games in a 7 game series.

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    I heard that a plantar fiatus or whatever Tim has doesn't go away for a long long period of time, and last time I checked, Tim Hasn't been that great of late...which probably means he isnt healthy, which probably means he might not be able to do much in the playoffs.... hopefully that isnt the case.

    I just hope he is 100% for the playoffs or even 95% would be nice, but if he isnt... it's going to be ugly versus the Suns.

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    no I don't, and I showed the numbers to back it up. Slowing down the pace != better defense, it just means they are playing at a slower pace. I do admit that they are a better half court team on offense though (not as potent on the fast break as last year), with a few guys who can create for others (Diaw ... eh ... yeah, that's it).
    The Suns are a very good team, but as a Spurs fan, I still think the Spurs are better, and will probably beat them in 5 or 6 games in a 7 game series.

    There is a lot of myth busting going on around here.

    PPG is a horrible measure of defense. Defensive efficiency is much better because it adjusts for the number of possessions in the game by taking the points per 100 possessions.

    Suns are #2 in the league in defensive efficiency right behind the Spurs. They were middle of the pack last year, about 16th I think. Don't you think that would indicate better defense?


    Amare is a y young man there is no doubt. The Suns know who they have to beat to win the championship.

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    There is a lot of myth busting going on around here.

    PPG is a horrible measure of defense. Defensive efficiency is much better because it adjusts for the number of possessions in the game by taking the points per 100 possessions.

    Suns are #2 in the league in defensive efficiency right behind the Spurs. They were middle of the pack last year, about 16th I think. Don't you think that would indicate better defense?


    Amare is a y young man there is no doubt. The Suns know who they have to beat to win the championship.
    I just look at adjusted FG% (taking into account 3 pt FG , which is effectively defensive efficiency), the Suns are #7 in the league right now, they were #10 last year, not much of an improvement, I'd say.
    And no, the Suns are not horrible on defense this year or last, they were average, better than average, even, it's just that people don't realize how good an offensive team the Spurs are. The Spurs were # 6 last year running largely a half court offensive set, and are #1 this year.

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    I just look at adjusted FG% (taking into account 3 pt FG , which is effectively defensive efficiency), the Suns are #7 in the league right now, they were #10 last year, not much of an improvement, I'd say.
    And no, the Suns are not horrible on defense this year or last, they were average, better than average, even, it's just that people don't realize how good an offensive team the Spurs are. The Spurs were # 6 last year running largely a half court offensive set, and are #1 this year.

    So at least we have moved from not improved to not improved much.
    So the Suns improved defense is not a myth by both our selected statistics.


    The Suns were pretty good in FG defense last year. They would force outside shots and at the pace the Suns would run most of those shots would be falling short by the fourth quarter. They would physically and mentally wear out teams most everynight with the quicker pace.
    The Spurs were the only team that managed to physically wear out the Suns.
    Their depth and coaching were the difference makers.

    They don't really run at the same pace as last season. Raja and Jones are good three point shooters but don't sprint to the corners for a quick 3 in transition like JJ and Q would last year. They are more suited to a half court set built around Amare.
    Plus last year they had two additional shot blockers to protect the rim in Hunter and Amare.

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    They would force outside shots
    lol

    yeah that western finals the Spurs relied on the outside jumper no question.


    As duncan shoots another 5 foot hook for a basket....

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    I can't defend such talk right now. In case Amare hasn't noticed, the Suns have lost every game they've played against the Pistons, Spurs, Mavericks and Grizzlies. 0-6 to be exact. One very good win bordering on great is their win vs. Indiana back when the Pacers weren't such headcases.

    Win a game with meaning before opening your trap, Amare. Love ya, but damn your blabber could backfire.

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    lol

    yeah that western finals the Spurs relied on the outside jumper no question.


    As duncan shoots another 5 foot hook for a basket....

    I was talking more about the regular season and I did say the Spurs were the exception.

    Most teams are not as disciplined as the Spurs and would get caught up in the Suns pace and shoot quick shots.

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    The Suns are a darn fine team and very exciting, but they will once again run into a damm fine team - advantage Spurs.

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    *snort*.... mm.. huh... whazzat? Amare?

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    ^^^^ lol exactly

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    So at least we have moved from not improved to not improved much.
    So the Suns improved defense is not a myth by both our selected statistics.


    The Suns were pretty good in FG defense last year. They would force outside shots and at the pace the Suns would run most of those shots would be falling short by the fourth quarter. They would physically and mentally wear out teams most everynight with the quicker pace.
    The Spurs were the only team that managed to physically wear out the Suns.
    Their depth and coaching were the difference makers.

    They don't really run at the same pace as last season. Raja and Jones are good three point shooters but don't sprint to the corners for a quick 3 in transition like JJ and Q would last year. They are more suited to a half court set built around Amare.
    Plus last year they had two additional shot blockers to protect the rim in Hunter and Amare.
    Well, if you want to look at it this way, I did point out their slight improvement in the FG% defense in my very first post, so whatever you say.
    And Amare is a great pick and roll option, he can obviously go to the rim with authority, and yet he has a nice 18 foot jumper if he was opened, and if Nash, you would rather leave Amare open at 18 than to have Nash make a layup or pass for an open three. But then again, Amare is only good at the pick and roll in the half court.

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    Well, if you want to look at it this way, I did point out their slight improvement in the FG% defense in my very first post, so whatever you say.
    And Amare is a great pick and roll option, he can obviously go to the rim with authority, and yet he has a nice 18 foot jumper if he was opened, and if Nash, you would rather leave Amare open at 18 than to have Nash make a layup or pass for an open three. But then again, Amare is only good at the pick and roll in the half court.
    Only in halfcourt?
    what about transition?

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    Only in halfcourt?
    what about transition?
    I meant when the Suns play halfcourt ball, he is only good at the pick and roll, and of course, he is a force on the break, no question.

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