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I hope that was tongue-in-cheek.
Its about time these bums got what was coming to them. I hate it when people want to throw the "victim" label on people. IceCold is right... don't live in the street if you don't want to be the "victim" of a street crime. Same thing with people who drive nice cars. Don't drive a nice car if you don't want to be carjacked. And don't carry around money if you don't want to be mugged. People get what they are askin' for!
I hope that was tongue-in-cheek.
They caught the punks...
Washington PostFORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- Two South Florida teens suspected in the beatings of three homeless men turned themselves in to police Sunday, authorities said.
Family attorneys negotiated the surrender of Brian Hooks, 18, and Thomas S. Daugherty, 17.
They will face murder charges in the death of Norris Gaynor and aggravated battery charges in the videotaped beating of Jacques Pierre, said Capt. Michael Gregory of the Fort Lauderdale police.
They also are suspects in the beating of a third man, Raymond Perez, 49, whose case remains under investigation, Gregory said.
Gee Dan why don't we just raise the minium to say $20.00 per hour and
Well, not quite. Progressive Democrats would like to see real wage increases for everyone, but especially for the working poor, something that hasn't happened in 4, maybe 5 years under Dubya (after adjusting for inflation). Would increasing the minimum wage to $6.00-$6.50 really be so bad?
We've also got to do something about rising interest rates, if we don't slow down government borrowing soon market forces will dictate FF rates to keep going up a quarter at a time throughout 06, with each increase forcing more and more poor Americans with ARMS and AR revolving-credit to live on less and less. Squeezing the purchasing power of prospective home-buyers in an already teetering real estate market, but especially in areas not affected by the Hurricanes.
This week, oddly, the FEDS stopped reporting the amount of M3 supply leading to a wide range of conspiracy theories on the subject. Some of these theories contend that the John Snow Treasury Dept, and the newly, Dubya-appointed mind-you, FED Chairman, Ben Bernanke, are printing dollars like fraudulant 04 and 08 Florida ballots and questionable WH memos like the humorous Padilla resume, in an effort to further devalue the dollar in world currency markets. Hummm...
then they can all live the good life. What the hey............
Also like the fraudulant 04 and 08 Florida ballots....how quaint and cute
and also untrue. Like I told boutons, you just got to stop those blasted
Republicans from voting, it just isn't right. There ought to be a law.
. . . . and ne'er the twain shall meet [to actually work productively towards solving significant societal problems].
You got it. There will always be those that have and those that do not
have. No system, political or otherwise, has been devised that will solve
that problem. Unfortunate but true.
Most of the homeless need psyciatric or substance abuse assistance. Giving them a house and money doesn't help them. Is there anything that's been effective at fighting substanc abuse?
I see. So the preferrable solution is to just ignore the existence of that problem and do nothing to really solve it, particularly if finding a solution might require either political party (or both) to compromise -- even if compromise might bring about some productive change. Heaven forbid.
After all, it's about ideology and not ideas.
p.s. -- By the way, poverty <> homelessness. I'm not trying to suggest a panacea for poverty; I'm merely saying that there are issues that relate to the homeless that receive little to no meaningful attention. Throwing money at the problem is useless because it fails to recognize the many issues that cause homelessness. Ignoring the problem is equally useless. Any solve lies in the middle of those ideological extremes. I'm not proposing any particular cure, just acknowledging that neither major party seems to be truly concerned with the problem itself -- likely because the homeless don't tend to vote.
[QUOTE=FromWayDowntown]Sort of like ignoring, or worse yet, actually being an opponent of the remedy to the problem of children not being taught moral values in the schools.I see. So the preferrable solution is to just ignore the existence of that problem and do nothing to really solve it, particularly if finding a solution might require either political party (or both) to compromise -- even if compromise might bring about some productive change. Heaven forbid.
After all, it's about ideology and not ideas.
Legalism interfering with the desperately needed moral education of our Publicly educated children.
"To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society."
(President Theodore Roosevelt).
Some of the issues;Throwing money at the problem is useless because it fails to recognize the many issues that cause homelessness.
Lack of Affordable Housing/Lack of Housing Assistance Programs
-"A lack of affordable housing and the limited scale of housing assistance programs are the primary causes of homelessness. The growing gap between the number of affordable housing units and the number of people needing them has created a housing crisis for poor people."
-The Low Income Housing Information Service estimates that there are twice as many low-income families searching for housing as there are units available.
-Only 30% of low-income individuals who are eligible for housing assistance ever actually receive it.
Insufficient Income/Poverty
-"Since 1975, the real value of the minimum wage has fallen by 25%."
-"If you earn the prevailing minimum wage in the U.S., you can't afford rent for the average two-bedroom apartment anywhere; in many places the equivalent of two or three full-time salaries are not even enough."
-"Homelessness and poverty are inextricably linked. Poor people are frequently unable to pay for housing, food, child care, health care, and education. Difficult choices must be made when limited resources cover only some of these necessities. Often it is housing, which absorbs a high proportion of income that must be given up. Being poor can mean that one is an illness, an accident, or a paycheck away from homelessness.
(I would suggest that homelessness, poverty and being uneducated are inextricably linked)
Lack of Health and Supportive Services
-Approximately 38 percent of homeless people suffer from a substance abuse problem
In 1996, Congress eliminated SSI and SSDI benefits for people diagnosed with an addiction.
There are currently no federal programs that target funds for substance abuse programs for homeless people
-A national study indicated that 13 percent of homeless individuals became homeless due to health problems
-20-25 percent of homeless people suffer from serious mental illness
-Eight percent of homeless people suffer from AIDS or are HIV-positive
Domestic Violence
Domestic violence is the second leading cause of homelessness among women. Battered women who live in poverty are often forced to choose between abusive relationships and homelessness. Nationally, approximately half of all women and children experiencing homelessness are fleeing domestic violence
If by my opposition to the teaching of religion in schools you broadly conclude that I'm against teaching of social morality, then that's your right. I've said before that the moral education that schools should provide should be basic social morality. Beyond that -- as to matters of religious morality -- it's on families and churches.
I'm not sure what that has to do with the issues of homelessness. I've never advocated ignoring the problem that you perceive; I've advocated funnelling that problem to the proper sources to provide a remedy. I think churches and families are the proper sources to provide religious education. If you're convinced that religious education is the key to a prosperous future, then get together with the folks at your church and offer outreach ministries to kids in economically and socially downtrodden areas. Of course, that's hard and time-consuming; it's much easier to leave that to government, but there's that nagging little Cons utional problem that creeps up to throw a monkey wrench into the whole government teaching religion thing.
I've not exactly proposed that only government can solve the homeless problem, either. I've just noted that the problem won't be solved either by ignoring it (i.e., doing nothing at all) or by throwing money at it, and that I think partisan ideologies tend to get in the way of true problem-solving.
I think that's a fair list of at least some of the problems that are part and parcel of homelessness; again, until both sides takes serious steps to back away from ideological strictures to work to find solutions to those issues, the problem will only propagate and will only become more difficult to solve.
I hope I am reincarnated with the combined minds of FWD and Extra Stout.
Hey! The game is back on.
i'll pray for these guys, but this is ing funny...
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What's funny is you assume Jesus will return to Earth as a guy with a home and a job.i'll pray for these guys, but this is ing funny...
^yeah...that is funny.
Jesus will come back on a magic carpet ride bro.
2nd time around is gonna be Good.
Getting rid of those pesky Jews?
Go Iran ???
yeah... in jews. they killed Jesus you know.
what's up your ass dude? did you see brokeback?
No, but I am watching the Heat vs. Lakers.
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