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    Why are all of you wasting time even replying to "Peter". He's trolling. Trying to wind you all up a little....

    Just ignore his ass.

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    Peter is trying to start here with you Pistons fans, that's the problem here.

    Every team has bull fans, so don't put anything negative slapped on Pistons fans that post here that actually contribute and don't flame the team in which the forum is based upon. And calling people names just goes to show Peter is immature.
    you're right he's immature.

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    Why are all of you wasting time even replying to "Peter". He's trolling. Trying to wind you all up a little....

    Just ignore his ass.
    it's a little hard. because his arguments are really wrong and he seems to not understand that.

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    at a spurs fan that is trolling on spurstalk. For a second I thought this was a pistons board.

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    It took a Mavericks fan to really give trolls a bad name (and I mean Mouse not you)

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    as long as Flip burns out his starting players in the regular season it's all good

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statis...006&league=nba

    There you have it! Not a single Piston in the top 30 in minutes played. Why do people always worry about the Pistons starters getting burned out and not guys like AI, Kobe, and LeBron when they average at least 3-4 minutes more than any Piston starter?

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statis...006&league=nba

    There you have it! Not a single Piston in the top 30 in minutes played. Why do people always worry about the Pistons starters getting burned out and not guys like AI, Kobe, and LeBron when they average at least 3-4 minutes more than any Piston starter?
    people overrate the fatigue factor because of the pistons last season. i think spur fans are relying on that to win them a championship right now.

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    I also have to agree with that, if the Spurs win it will be because they step up with 8 -9 or so players, that is all usually plays anyway. Plus starters will go more minutes in the playoffs on both sides.

    Spurs need in my opinion have to do three things to compete better with the Pistons:

    1) Diversify their offense and include Manu early and often. So far, in the games with Finley it has been mainly Parker driving and looking to score or dish off.
    2) For all the complaints about rebounding etc, the Spurs also have to hit their shots, they have been cold for much of the games - give credit to Pistons but the Spurs need to step up and hit some shots. Despite the low scoring by the Pistons, Spurs are also giving them too many wide open shots.
    3) Worry about their own bench. Spurs can talk about a strong bench when they prove that what they have on paper can step up.

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    Sorry you girls don't like someone actually being a Spurs fan around here. As for you "Pistons fans", I suggest you find another forum and a life.

    L8.

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    people overrate the fatigue factor because of the pistons last season. i think spur fans are relying on that to win them a championship right now.
    neither the pistons or spurs are guaranteed to get to the finals. you act as if the pistons have a free pass there, and whoever they play they will easily beat. anyone who watched the finals last year could tell the pistons were not tired in the last 5 games, so what is your point? i also can't remember how long ago it was that the team with the best regular season record actually won the le. that's why i think spurs fans sitting here developing roids about hca should cool it.

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    I think we have the stronger bench this year and our starting 5 is a more well-rounded team than last year, excelling offensively under coach Saunders while still maintaining defensive intensity
    I think that the Pistons winning 5 of the last 7 against the Spurs, including 2 of 3 on the Spurs homecourt, equates to more than a swinging pendulum.

    All this while learning a new coach (Flip), a new offense (Flip's flex offense), an added defense (Flip's zone), incorporating inexperienced players Mo Evans, Carlos Delfino, and Darko Milicic, and without last seasons second player off the bench Lindsey Hunter. Not to mention an inconsistentback up point guard most Pistons fans want to trade in Carlos Arroyo, and a veteran big man Dale Davis who almost never plays who started on a playoff team last season. The Pistons have only played "Pistons defense" a half of dozen games this season and the scary fact is the Pistons are only going to get better and stronger as a team.

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    Sure beats playing 39+ in a loss on Christmas like Bowen, Parker and Duncan did...
    "Peter" I am only on the second page and you should of shut up a long time ago, you are digging a hole so deep you will never be able to insult yourself out of. I guess either pride or stupidity is making you hit the reply button.

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    The Piston's bench will be a ton better once Lindsey gets back. Right now, our bench gets killed by dribble penetration (Arroyo blows). Lindsey will cut that down dramatically. Also, right now, Maurice Evans and Carlos Delfino are battling out for the main backup swingman job. Once that gets worked out, one of them will be getting a lot more minutes, and we'll have some consistancy. Right now, it's hard for them to produce when we're mixing and matching to try to come up with a lineup that works. And Dice will be Dice.

    Needless to say, other than having "names", I really don't see what is so great about the Spurs bench. Compare the benches in the 2 meetings (I'm counting Manu as a starter and Finley as a bench player in the 2nd game because that's where he'll be when it counts):

    Dec 25th
    Pistons bench: 56 minutes, 21 points (53% FG), 17 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 blocks, 0 TO
    Spurs bench: 76 minutes, 20 points (39% FG), 10 rebounds, 8 assists, 1 block, 3 TO

    Jan 12th
    Pistons bench: 37 minutes, 10 points (39% FG), 9 rebounds, 1 assist, 0 blocks, 0 TO
    Spurs bench: 79 minutes, 10 points (29% FG), 8 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 block, 2 TO

    So I don't see how anyone can say the Pistons don't have a bench. They played about half the minutes, and outproduced the Spurs bench overall. The Pistons just don't need to use theirs so much because their starting 5 is so deep.
    Just because a bench does not play heavy minutes or score tons of points does not mean they are not a good bench, most nights they out produce the other teams bench in the (points/minutes) minutes they do play. The Pistons bench is young, inexperienced, playing more and continually getting better. The reason most benches play more minutes and score more points is because their five starters are not as talented as the Pistons five.

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statis...006&league=nba

    There you have it! Not a single Piston in the top 30 in minutes played. Why do people always worry about the Pistons starters getting burned out and not guys like AI, Kobe, and LeBron when they average at least 3-4 minutes more than any Piston starter?

    Well if Flip would use the bench more they might have a better record, 3 of the 5 losses were on the second night of back to backs and they did come out flat and did get out rebounded in those games. If the Pistons would of had their legs maybe they could win some of those games instead of giving them away by over playing their starters.

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    neither the pistons or spurs are guaranteed to get to the finals. you act as if the pistons have a free pass there, and whoever they play they will easily beat. anyone who watched the finals last year could tell the pistons were not tired in the last 5 games, so what is your point? i also can't remember how long ago it was that the team with the best regular season record actually won the le. that's why i think spurs fans sitting here developing roids about hca should cool it.
    i know they're not gauranteed, but the spurs and pistons should get there. the pistons and spurs won with 2nd seed in there conferences last year so a first seed would only help. last year the 2nd seeds were better teams than the first not this year though. and how could you not tell that the pistons were worn out by the end of last season i'm not making any excuses, but i don't think that should happen again. and it's very useful to have HCA in the finals because of the format.

    the spurs and pistons are not locks but they are both heavy favorites to get back to the finals.

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