Mohammed Today

[2centsworth]

So you know what Nazr needs to do as well.

Great.

Let him do it.

You go in circles. I'm not preventing him from doing anything. My argument is Nazr's play despite his defensive weaknesses makes the spurs a better team than does no rebouding Rasho.

[T Park]

lol walked right into it...

[ChumpDumper]

My argument is Nazr's play despite his defensive weaknesses makes the spurs a better team than does no rebouding Rasho.

Then fire Pop. Or at least convince him defense doesn't matter. Good luck.

In the meantime, Nazr has gotten quite a few minutes of that PT you're ing about the past three weeks. Let him prove himself to the person that matters.

[2centsworth]

Then fire Pop. Or at least convince him defense doesn't matter. Good luck.

In the meantime, Nazr has gotten quite a few minutes of that PT you're ing about the past three weeks. Let him prove himself to the person that matters.

I'm not ing with how Pop has handled Nazr's minutes, and nowhere will you see that in any of my post. You on the other hand will defend Pop to the death, but I guess with good reason. Pop was wrong in playing Manu off the bench, and he quickly started Manu after you fiercly argued Manu should stay on the bench. I think the spurs have only lost 1 or 2 games since the change?

Now I'm saying Nazr is earning more minutes, Pop is giving him more minutes, and the spurs will be better for it. You on the other hand want to argue why Nazr should still sit.

[exstatic]

There needs to be a Church of Nazr.

[T Park]

You on the other hand want to argue why Nazr should still sit.

Nooo

hes arguing why Nazr isn't starting.

Now your reading into what hes saying.

CHill.

[2centsworth]

Nooo

hes arguing why Nazr isn't starting.

Now your reading into what hes saying.

CHill.

When ever you tell someone to chill, look in the mirror. I bet it will sound funny.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not ing with how Pop has handled Nazr's minutes, and nowhere will you see that in any of my post.

But you want Nazr to start. You want him to start but play 14 mpg like he has all season? Don't be disingenuous AND ignorant.

op was wrong in playing Manu off the bench, and he quickly started Manu after you fiercly argued Manu should stay on the bench. I think the spurs have only lost 1 or 2 games since the change?

It was never about Manu. It was about Finley. You must be completely ignorant of his performance as well.

Now I'm saying Nazr is earning more minutes, Pop is giving him more minutes, and the spurs will be better for it. You on the other hand want to argue why Nazr should still sit.

No I said Nazr will earn more minutes AND START if he plays better D. He has played more minutes because Horry was out (or were you ignorant of that fact too?). Looks like he's taking advantage. Good for him. And for you. And the Spurs.

IF HE PLAYS BETTER D HE WILL PLAY MORE. PERIOD.

[T Park]

look in the mirror. I bet it will sound funny

Talking to yourself is plain weird so, I doubt it.

Im fine. Im not worked up at all.

I never get worked up.

What you see at a GTG is what you get.

Calm, quiet, settled.

[2centsworth]

But you want Nazr to start. You want him to start but play 14 mpg like he has all season? Don't be disingenuous AND ignorant.It was never about Manu. It was about Finley. You must be completely ignorant of his performance as well.No I said Nazr will earn more minutes AND START if he plays better D. He has played more minutes because Horry was out (or were you ignorant of that fact too?). Looks like he's taking advantage. Good for him. And for you. And the Spurs.

IF HE PLAYS BETTER D HE WILL PLAY MORE. PERIOD.

what's up with the insults. Can you argue without insulting people? Here's a taste, you're stupid and wrong and you're always wrong but like to argue anyways. I never said Nazr should start but since you're so dumb you think I did suggest Nazr should start. You've got to be the biggest idiot to always be on the wrong side of the argument.

[ChumpDumper]

So Nazr shouldn't start?

Who should?

How are the minutes to be divided in the playoffs in your Rasholess rotation?

You've got to be the biggest idiot to always be on the wrong side of the argument.

My argument (in all caps above so you couldn't ignore it) is "if Nazr plays better D he will play more."

Yours is "If Pop cares less about defense, Nazr will get more minutes."

Which do you think is more likely to happen?

[2centsworth]

So Nazr shouldn't start?

Who should?

How are the minutes to be divided in the playoffs in your Rasholess rotation?My argument (in all caps above so you couldn't ignore it) is "if Nazr plays better D he will play more."

Yours is "If Pop cares less about defense, Nazr will get more minutes."

Which do you think is more likely to happen?

Why are you making up what I said? Here are my quotes: (give me a minute)

Nazr needs to get back to playing as well as he did against Denver and at times Phoenix last year and the spurs will be back to being very tough to beat.

spurs didn't need rasho last year and I hopefully they don't need him this year either. Not to be critical, but not needing Rasho would mean Nazr is back if not better than he was last year.

Hence, my hope that Rasho sits by the end of the year. Not by his own doing but because Nazr's play demands he plays more. Won't be room for two centers come playoffs because Horry will gobble up minutes.

So far it looks like I'm hoping Nazr plays just as well if not better than last year.

Nowhere do I see where I said he should start right now. (i'll be back with more)

you make too much sense. Let them have Rasho as their starting center. Thank goodness Pop eventually plays the best players at the end of the year.

Another by the end of the year hope Nazr plays well enough to start.

I'm not suggesting the spurs just give him minutes when he doesn't deserve them. I'm saying his recent play has earned him more minutes and hopefully he continues to play well enough to justify sitting Rasho much like they did last year when they won it all.

wow chump, maybe you don't read what other people post and just argue with yourself.

[ChumpDumper]

Spurs do expect D from the starting center, but REBOUNDING should be guaranteed from that position. Rasho is too much of a liability on the boards for the spurs to beat the good aggressive teams. Nazr at least gives us rebouding, aggressiveness, more offense, and not great D but good enough with key blocks down the stretch of games.

Of course Pop would have to change his priorities to match line of thinking.

[ploto]

It simply looks like he doesn't even practice with the team.

Far and away the clearest observation I have read in some time.

The Spurs have actually had quite a bit of practice time as of late. They had that week in January where all the games were at home and they practiced every day in between. They just came off a break where they had practice Sun, Mon and Tues before they left on this trip. Again today saw both Horry and Bowen having to tell Nazr what we was supposed to do and where he was supposed to be. Is he really this incapable of comprehension? Finley, NVE, and Oberto all have a better grasp than him.

Also, there has never been any report that Nazr's wife almost died. She was at the game on opening night and even had the baby with her.

Nazr's numbers seem to be "about himself" and not about how he contributes to the success of everyone on the team. He does not set screens for Tony and Manu nor does he do anything to seal off shot blockers. Nazr is more interested in worrying about being in a spot to grab an offensive rebound off a possible miss than in helping Tony score in the first place.

Do you realize that in a game in which Rasho only played 16 minutes and that the Spurs only won by 4, that the team was +14 with Rasho in the game but they were -12 with Nazr? Do you know that in those 16 minutes Rasho played (1/3 of a full game) that the Pacers only had 21 points total?

[2centsworth]

Far and away the clearest observation I have read in some time.

The Spurs have actually had quite a bit of practice time as of late. They had that week in January where all the games were at home and they practiced every day in between. They just came off a break where they had practice Sun, Mon and Tues before they left on this trip. Again today saw both Horry and Bowen having to tell Nazr what we was supposed to do and where he was supposed to be. Is he really this incapable of comprehension? Finley, NVE, and Oberto all have a better grasp than him.

Also, there has never been any report that Nazr's wife almost died. She was at the game on opening night and even had the baby with her.

Nazr's numbers seem to be "about himself" and not about how he contributes to the success of everyone on the team. He does not set screens for Tony and Manu nor does he do anything to seal off shot blockers. Nazr is more interested in worrying about being in a spot to grab an offensive rebound off a possible miss than in helping Tony score in the first place.

Do you realize that in a game in which Rasho only played 16 minutes and that the Spurs only won by 4, that the team was +14 with Rasho in the game but they were -12 with Nazr? Do you know that in those 16 minutes Rasho played (1/3 of a full game) that the Pacers only had 21 points total?

hum? Is it a coincidence that the spurs are playing better than they have all season with Nazr seeing more minutes? Maybe it's all about Manu being healthy?

Also, what was it about Nazr last year that kept Rasho on the bench because by playoff time Rasho was healthy.

[wildbill2u]

There needs to be a Church of Nazr.

It'll probably be across the street from the First Church of Malik Rose and the Last Pentacostal Church of the Redeemer Jackson.

So far, the Church of the Blood of the Lamb Devin Brown is still in a storefront but the congregation is growing and expects to build soon.

[2centsworth]

It'll probably be across the street from the First Church of Malik Rose and the Last Pentacostal Church of the Redeemer Jackson.

So far, the Church of the Blood of the Lamb Devin Brown is still in a storefront but the congregation is growing and expects to build soon.

if finley keeps throwing up those bricks the Church of Devin will be the biggest of all.

[T Park]

Yeah Devin won us alot of playoff games last year.

[2centsworth]

Yeah Devin won us alot of playoff games last year.

pl

no but he did very well against kobe the year before, plus until his injury he was having his best year yet.

[ploto]

hum? Is it a coincidence that the spurs are playing better than they have all season with Nazr seeing more minutes? Maybe it's all about Manu being healthy?

You don't seem to understand- Rasho's minutes are not down. He is averaging the same minutes he has all season. Horry is the one playing less.


See, when Rasho has an off night, it means he didn't shoot or rebound well, but he will always give you good defense, good screens, etc..

When Nazr has a bad game, he is plain awful. If he isn't grabbing rebounds or getting easy baskets, he contributes nothing. Which is why he always ends up a bench player everywhere he goes.

[ploto]

Again, Nazr was a MAJOR reason we wonthe le last season

He was the least important out of the seven guys who played in the Finals.

Yes, I said that. More important: Tim, Manu, Tony, Bruce, Horry, and Brent.

[2centsworth]

He was the least important out of the seven guys who played in the Finals.

Yes, I said that. More important: Tim, Manu, Tony, Bruce, Horry, and Brent.

Gotta say Nazr was fantastic against Denver and played pretty well against Phoenix and Detroit.

Brent was not very good last year, but did have his moments.

Also, if Nazr was so bad why did Pop play Rasho a total of 5 minutes in last years playoffs?

BTW, Nazr has been a starter in this league for awhile.

[2centsworth]

If he isn't grabbing rebounds or getting easy baskets, he contributes nothing. Which is why he always ends up a bench player everywhere he goes.

that's just it he did a lot more right than wrong last year and is starting to show signs again.

[Buddy Holly]

According to TimVP, Nazr should see very little playing time tomorrow.

[T Park]

no but he did very well against kobe the year before

yeah Kobe droppin 40 on us in games 4 and 6 were great.

plus until his injury he was having his best year yet

DAMN

I wonder who that sounds like last year!!!

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