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I'm sure the Spurs will send a tape to the NBA front office. I'm glad the Spurs won, it would have been terrible to lose on those kinds of calls.
I'm sorry, but I also have to complain about the officials (ok, BS, BSalvatore, that is) tonight.
If this keeps up for more than day or a couple of weeks, that's one thing. But discussing one of the worst aspects of last night's game? To be expected. People talk for weeks about amazing plays, why on earth shouldn't we talk about that godawful call?
We won. Good. Should we be playing better? Yes. I'd like to see more consistent defense and better passing and fewer turnovers. I'd like to see Nazr actually make a putback dunk instead of sending it off the back rim. I'd like to see more aggression out of Timmy and more points in the paint for him. So there's that.
I'd also like to see games called more evenly. There were two complete crap calls there at the end. There were crap calls all game.
As referenced above - the illegal defense call. Huh?
As referenced elsewhere - the elbow Dirk threw into Bruce's eye socket, that was clearly a thrown elbow, and not contact intiated by Bruce, that was called as a foul on Bowen.
Not yet seen - the several calls of fouls and crowding or locking on Dirk when he was pushing defenders in the back to gain position, throwing them off balance. As soon as they threw their arms up to regain balance, they were called for fouls. Huh?
Oh right. And the worst call EVER. TRAVELING because he was PUSHED BY TWO DEFENDERS and stumbled.
WHAT THE ?
I'm sure the Spurs will send a tape to the NBA front office. I'm glad the Spurs won, it would have been terrible to lose on those kinds of calls.
That was one of the worst called games that I have witnessed until I saw the following game. Devin Brown and the Jazz were robbed of a win.
I am just glad the Spurs won. I think the win last night will light a fire under the Spurs'...well you know. They haven't shown any type of emotion so far this season. I know its very early in the season, but these guys (Spurs) need to start showing the rest of the league that they are defending champs.
I don't think there is a team in this league right now that fears the Spurs. Remember the Bulls of the 90's? Teams were afraid to play that team because they knew the Bulls weren't going to mess around. The Spurs don't have that.
I just think it's a shame that the Spurs (in particular with certain referees) have to defeat two teams on the floor on a consistent basis...the other basketball team and the referees.
I'm sure other teams have the same problem with different referees (or maybe even the same ones), but I'm not looking out for that, and don't notice it as much. I do pick up on bad calls against other teams from time to time...but as a dyed-in-the-wool Spurs fan, I don't necessarily see that as a call in the Spurs' favor ()...to me, it's just a bad call.
Yes.
Here's Eddie Sefko's entire description of the play in the Dallas Morning News:
Tim Duncan rebounded but traveled.
If it would have been any other ref besides SALVATORE it would be easier to let it go. Spurs fans want the league to look into Salvatore's history of bad calls on the spurs. The guy is biased.
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probably won't make any difference being that we are in the "small market SA" they probably just junk all they emails..
worth a try i suppose
I hope these Spurs and Jazz questionable calls are addressed next week in Ronnie Nunn's (NBA Director of Officials) weekly session on NBA TV, which I think is NBATV's the most fascinating and useful show. The calls of last night would be enough fill an entire show.
couln't help myself, I sent an email.
COPY:
Fans of San Antonio believe that Benette Salvatore doesn't officiate a fair game when he works a Spurs game. There are bad calls in every game and for the most part the NBA officials are really good, but Salvatore falls apart in Spurs games. Is it the pressure of working a Spurs game? I hope it's not a bias, but whatever it is for the past 4 years Benette consistently officates Spurs games very poorly.
They won't show them, because they are too obvious of misses.
They only show really close calls.
Nunn isn't going to say too many times, "My guys screwed up that one"
Especially when it comes to a veteran like Salvatore.
Sending letters proves you watch the games, which is all the NBA ultimately cares about. It's just like writing letters to columnists who write things that you disagree with. They don't care what you think, they just care that you write, because it proves that you read, which is why they're paid.
If you want to make a difference, stay away and try to get 100,000,000 friends to do the same thing. Do that, and the NBA will give a damn about your concerns for officiating.
That's not to say that I think Salvatore was in the right -- again, this is not the first time that Salvatore has been on the floor when the Mavericks obtained significant officiating advantages (which raises serious questions in my mind) and it's not the first time that Salvatore has completely fabricated a call (or ignored an obvious foul/violation by the Mavericks) in order to afford that advantage. Were the league truly concerned with the consistency of officiating (and I don't think it is), Salvatore would have long since been disciplined for such egregious mistakes. There obviously hasn't been any discipline, though, since Bennett keeps ending up on the whistle in the NBA Finals.
In any event, it happened and it's not going to change; at least the Spurs won and have the solace of knowing that Salvatore likely won't call any more Spurs/Mavericks games this regular season, and won't do more than 1 game in a Spurs/Mavericks series.
so basically Salvatore sucks, the league knows he sucks, and there's nothing we can do about it.
That would seem to be about the size of it.
Salvatore, Ron Olesiak (in Utah last night), Bernie Lincicome (the Denver columnist who hates Manu), and countless others like them; they all get away with it because we all continue to watch or read or buy or whatever.
It's always about the bottom line.
what are whingers? Are those the like buffalo whingers? I love those things!wow, if other teams get ripped by bad refs and fans complain, then they are whingers but spurs fans can do it all day long and its fine
at least you got the W lol
yup.
No teams were afraid to play the Bulls, the MEDIA said teams were afraid to play the Bulls. If they really were, the Bulls would have had better post season records. Check it up, they weren't that great, except one year I think they got like 15-3, but I am not positive about that.
By the way I agree. Dirk and Terry both got fouled in the last play of the game so
Bennet Salvatore, the same guy that srewed us in 2003. This ref is bad. I always look to see if he's gonna officiate our game.
What the is a foul?
Salvatore is to the Spurs now what Javie was to the Spurs BT (Before Tim). Javie chilled, Salvatore sux.
Someone already mentioned game one in the conf. finals against the Mavs in 2003 but don't forget he worked game four of the semis in LA that year. I couldn't locate a boxscore but I recall Shaq and Kobe each shot over 20 free throws. TD shot over 20 free throws and I don't think anyone else on either team shot more than four. The Lakers had something like a plus 16 freethrow edge that game and tied up the series 2-2.
Spurs did have an edge in free throws in SA. But I felt like Salvatore had it in for us in game four.
Bennett is the worst ref in the game today.
Collins was wrong. Rasho was in the lane for about 5 seconds, Dampier was not. The rest of you should go ahead and become Mavericks fans if you are going to cry about officiating. The better team always has the option of putting the game out of reach instead of relying on the officials to decide the outcome.
When you guys are done frothing, you might want chill and think just a little.
Salvatore was on the baseline, in front of Tim. He had no view of Dirk behind Tim, and hense made the call as he only saw Tim walking out of bounds. While I agree, it was a bad call, it was not Salvatore responsiblilty to call a push he had no sightline to call. Salvatore was exactly where he was supposed to be, and called only what he saw. It was the other two zebras who should have been in position to see and correct the call when they saw the obvious push.
Perhaps they did not have the balls to reverse the call in Dallas. Perhaps they also did not see the push with loads of bodies and lots of action in the paint.
No matter. Spurs won. Quit the whinning and move on!
Absolutely.Clearly the Great Timmy D. lost his balance
After Dirk pushed him with both hands.
Good eye.
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