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    ^ I just read that elsewhere.
    You get around.

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    Talk is cheap and so is Holt! Peter's Avatar
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    I have the link, if you need it.

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    I have the link, if you need it.
    No, I know exactly from where I stole it.

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    No, I know exactly from where I stole it.
    I have a feeling this isn't the first time you've failed to credit a source.

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    I have a feeling this isn't the first time you've failed to credit a source.
    It's his experience in law enforcement and the medical field.

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    I have a feeling this isn't the first time you've failed to credit a source.
    Not much escapes you.

    I've never claimed originality in my posts. I merely find statements with which I agree and for which I believe there is adequate support and post them. Why re-invent the wheel?

    Besides, It's not like I'm doing this for fortune or fame. In that I'm anonymous, what do I care about my credibility...it's the words of others.

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    Talk is cheap and so is Holt! Peter's Avatar
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    Well, if you don't care, why be here?

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    Well, if you don't care, why be here?
    I don't know, entertainment?

    Really though, do you anticipate a resolution to any world problem to result from the discussions had in this forum?

    For that matter, do you expect any of your personal problems to be resolved?

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    Talk is cheap and so is Holt! Peter's Avatar
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    I don't know, entertainment?

    Really though, do you anticipate a resolution to any world problem to result from the discussions had in this forum?
    Nope. This is a discussion forum, not a policy one.


    For that matter, do you expect any of your personal problems to be resolved?
    The vigor with which you participate here would seem to indicate that you do.

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    Nope. This is a discussion forum, not a policy one.
    So, I raise points of discussion...why would they necessarily have to be my own. Many are, but why do you care from where they come? It's not like I have personal reputation at stake.

    The vigor with which you participate here would seem to indicate that you do.
    I think I have an OCD.

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    Not much escapes you.

    I've never claimed originality in my posts. I merely find statements with which I agree and for which I believe there is adequate support and post them. Why re-invent the wheel?

    Besides, It's not like I'm doing this for fortune or fame. In that I'm anonymous, what do I care about my credibility...it's the words of others.
    the unfunny joke you posted is not a big deal. I've just noticed that you submit other people's words sometimes without mentioning a link to the original source.

    you don't have to claim originality when the thoughts presented are actually your own thoughts, or at least in your own words. But when you cut and paste entire paragraphs of other people's words, you should give credit. Otherwise, it appears that you are trying to pass off someone's work as your own. Most people around here provide links when they do this. You don't always.

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    the unfunny joke you posted is not a big deal. I've just noticed that you submit other people's words sometimes without mentioning a link to the original source.

    you don't have to claim originality when the thoughts presented are actually your own thoughts, or at least in your own words. But when you cut and paste entire paragraphs of other people's words, you should give credit. Otherwise, it appears that you are trying to pass off someone's work as your own. Most people around here provide links when they do this. You don't always.
    Again, you're really on top of this breaking scandal.

    But, really, so what? People, in this and other forums, rarely do what they should.

    Giving credit -- in many cases -- only leads to the obligatory flaming of the source and the discussion dies. I'd rather concentrate on the content and whether or not it has merit...thus keeping the conversation alive.

    But, that's just me.

    Look, if you don't like my approach to this forum, put me on ignore. I've done that to many in whom I'm no longer interested in what they say here.

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    Again, you're really on top of this breaking scandal.

    But, really, so what? People, in this and other forums, rarely do what they should.

    Giving credit -- in many cases -- only leads to the obligatory flaming of the source and the discussion dies. I'd rather concentrate on the content and whether or not it has merit...thus keeping the conversation alive.

    But, that's just me.

    Look, if you don't like my approach to this forum, put me on ignore. I've done that to many in whom I'm no longer interested in what they say here.
    You sure have a lot of anger for someone who "doesn't care." And, I'll drop it. I don't care enough to continue the discussion.

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    You sure have a lot of anger for someone who "doesn't care."
    You have a funny definition of anger.

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    Speaking of conspiracy, one rumor spreading on the internet is that Whittington has been dead since Sunday. I think this story has moved on from the actual incident to how poorly the Vice President's people handled the media.
    oh . no wonder they are so secretive. they are probably cloning the poor bas as we speak. or even trying to use vodoo magic to trun him into a zombie.

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    MSNBC had reported that Armstrong (the ranch owner) said some alcohol may have been involved. The statement she made did not say Cheney had been drinking but nonetheless her quote was removed from the MSNBC.

    As for the comments that this is much ado about nothing and there are other more pressing matters.......come on. The vice president of the U.S. shoots a man, even if it is accidentally is huge news.

    Then add to the mix he is one of the most secretive SOBs to ever hold the office, he did not release the news, there are questions about when the president was informed, was alcohol involved, was the guy really 30 feet from the VP when he was shot, Darth Cheney has yet to publically apologize, wingnut smear types are already saying it's Harry Whittington's fault.

    It's a huge story.

    Cheney could have squelched all of this by issuing a statement and apology right away but rather than facing up to his personal mistake, he cut and ran. He hides behind his office.

    What a coward.......just like when he was getting those deferments.

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    MSNBC had reported that Armstrong (the ranch owner) said some alcohol may have been involved. The statement she made did not say Cheney had been drinking but nonetheless her quote was removed from the MSNBC.

    As for the comments that this is much ado about nothing and there are other more pressing matters.......come on. The vice president of the U.S. shoots a man, even if it is accidentally is huge news.

    Then add to the mix he is one of the most secretive SOBs to ever hold the office, he did not release the news, there are questions about when the president was informed, was alcohol involved, was the guy really 30 feet from the VP when he was shot, Darth Cheney has yet to publically apologize, wingnut smear types are already saying it's Harry Whittington's fault.

    It's a huge story.

    Cheney could have squelched all of this by issuing a statement and apology right away but rather than facing up to his personal mistake, he cut and ran. He hides behind his office.

    What a coward.......just like when he was getting those deferments.
    The police were called immediately. Their official report states no alcohol was involved.

    Plus, the man received immediate medical attention from the Vice President's staff. It's not like he wandered around the Armstrong Ranch wondering how this was going to affect him politically, a la Chappaquid .

    Maybe, just maybe, making a public statement was the furthest thing from his mind. He told Ms. Armstrong she was free to discuss the incident and she did, with the Corpus Christi Caller Times.

    Maybe the White House Press Corps should have been with the Vice President's entourage -- Lord knows they follow the President everywhere. They could have seen police responding to the ranch and asked their own questions then.

    This is all about the Washington D.C. press getting their panties in a wad. I don't remember anybody crying when Harry Reid waited 3 days to report he'd suffered a stroke or when Hillary Clinton waited 30 hours to reveal Vincent Foster left a suicide note.

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    What goes around, come around.

    Cheney calls camouflaged Kerry's goose hunting 'October disguise'

    Vice President Cheney poked fun at Sen. John Kerry's goose hunting Thursday, arguing that the image of the gun-toting, camouflaged Democrat was an "October disguise" that masked his voting record against gun rights.

    Just hours after Kerry shot a goose during an early-morning hunt in Boardman, Ohio, near Youngstown, the vice president told supporters in another part of the state that the outing was nothing more than a photo opportunity to hide the four-term Massachusetts senator's record.

    Kerry supports the right to bear arms but has backed the assault-weapons ban and background checks at gun shows. He denies the Republicans' contention that he wants to take away guns from owners.

    Cheney said Kerry's camouflage jacket was "an October disguise -- an effort he's making to hide the fact that he votes against gun owner rights at every turn."

    "My fellow sportsmen, this cover-up isn't going to work," Cheney said, speaking to supporters in an upscale Toledo suburb that borders the Ohio-Michigan state line. "The Second Amendment is more than just a photo opportunity."

    <snip>

    Who's laughing now ?

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    The big story is that national media was all upset the Caller-times broke the
    story and they didn't get to do their thingy. National media sucks to begin with.
    And how come all the medical reports. I thought they were confidential. I notice
    that it didn't take SA210 long to link Haliburton with the incident. Drinking involved,
    Kennedy was drunk on his behind, run off a bridge and killed a woman and run
    off without aiding her and the media was worried if it would affect him. He has been
    affected for years. You know sex under a table in a restaurant, sandwiching a
    waitress, helping rape a girl in Florida, drives his ex to use dope. But he is the
    most wonderful Lib who only cares of others.....give me a break folks. Get back to
    real life. Many stories on the web from the lefties about anything you want to
    consider from intentional shooting to he was drunk on his behind. Take your pick.

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    The police were called immediately. Their official report states no alcohol was involved.
    The county's sheriff was turned away and not allowed to visit the veep, uva a breathalyzer there.

    Plus, the man received immediate medical attention from the Vice President's staff. It's not like he wandered around the Armstrong Ranch wondering how this was going to affect him politically, a la Chappaquid .

    Maybe, just maybe, making a public statement was the furthest thing from his mind. He told Ms. Armstrong she was free to discuss the incident and she did, with the Corpus Christi Caller Times.
    We don't really know what Cheney did. We do know he did not accompany the man to the hospital. Ms. Armstrong asked Cheney if she could talk and he was ok by it. Curious, that he did not make a statement himself.....

    Maybe the White House Press Corps should have been with the Vice President's entourage -- Lord knows they follow the President everywhere. They could have seen police responding to the ranch and asked their own questions then.

    This is all about the Washington D.C. press getting their panties in a wad. I don't remember anybody crying when Harry Reid waited 3 days to report he'd suffered a stroke or when Hillary Clinton waited 30 hours to reveal Vincent Foster left a suicide note.
    Darth Cheney doesn't let anyone know what he is doing whether it's hunting with Nino "the Fixer" Scalia or who he's formulating energy policy with. The vice president is an elected official. He works for us. If he shoots someone, he should be stepping up to the mike and making a statement to all of us and not hiding out like OBL. Oh, and that lovefest he's going to have with Brit Hume today doesn't count.

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    The big story is that national media was all upset the Caller-times broke the
    story and they didn't get to do their thingy. National media sucks to begin with.
    And how come all the medical reports. I thought they were confidential. I notice
    that it didn't take SA210 long to link Haliburton with the incident. Drinking involved,
    Kennedy was drunk on his behind, run off a bridge and killed a woman and run
    off without aiding her and the media was worried if it would affect him. He has been
    affected for years. You know sex under a table in a restaurant, sandwiching a
    waitress, helping rape a girl in Florida, drives his ex to use dope. But he is the
    most wonderful Lib who only cares of others.....give me a break folks. Get back to
    real life. Many stories on the web from the lefties about anything you want to
    consider from intentional shooting to he was drunk on his behind. Take your pick.
    The topic is Cheney. Are you saying if Kennedy sets the standard for ethics? What does Ted Kennedy's behavior have to do with what Cheney did over the weekend? Stay on topic.

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    "Cheney's got a gun."

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    The big story is that national media was all upset the Caller-times broke the
    story and they didn't get to do their thingy. National media sucks to begin with.
    And how come all the medical reports. I thought they were confidential. I notice
    that it didn't take SA210 long to link Haliburton with the incident. .
    What the heck did I recently say about Haliburton?



    Not that I don't think horribly of them.

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    I'm glad that our political news is dominated by such weighty matters. It's not as if there weren't other issues of greater import and potential negative impact facing the administration a scant week ago. I guess if you are obsessed with the current administration might a story like this move so effortlessly from comedy to conspiracy.

    It's can't be out desperation for lack of negative news, so what is it?
    Shut up Marcus, shouldn't you be working on business issues

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    Speaking of conspiracy, one rumor spreading on the internet is that Whittington has been dead since Sunday. I think this story has moved on from the actual incident to how poorly the Vice President's people handled the media.

    STILL NOT DEAD YET...CHRIST, YOU GUYS ARE KILLING ME!!!!

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