Right on. I'll pass judgement on this move at the end of next week, after we see if Joe has anything else on the burner.
As for the Mike James rumors, that's been wishful thinking for many Pistons fans (like me) who would like to see the "Pit Bulls" (James and Hunter) reunited. Their full-court pressure was FUNNY to watch - teams would get totally discombobulated just trying to get the ball across half-court. But Lindsey's two years older now and the game is whistled a little differently, so that might not work anymore. I'd still love to see it, but I'm not holding my breath.
But even if Joe doesn't do anything else, a mix of Lindsey and Tayshaun at PG, with more time for Delfino at SF, should still be an upgrade from Arroyo. I liked his game, I liked his spirit, I just didn't like his results on the floor.
I think trading Arroyo was a bad idea. He's an inconsistent PG, but most young PGs are inconsistent, and you have to be patient. If the Pistons somehow get Mike James out of it, then it's a good deal, but then the Raptors logic is screwy. Why trade a good young player for a 1st round pick to maybe get a good young player?
Why are the Pistons fans worrying about the pick, with Joe D's track record he'll probably turn it into an even better bench warmer than Darko was.
LMAO at Piston fan who said that Flip would develop Darko like all the raw talent he did in MN. Ebi's in the D-league BTW.
What's up with running down Darko after the trade? You know he's a player when AFTER the deal the fans do that.
Great deal for Det. Darko sucked and will continue to suck. Too bad Cato isn't healthy or iit would be incredible.
It is hard to predict future, however Darko has been in the same situation Brezec was in Indiana. Brezec has proved that he can play, and so will Darko.
I don't see how Detroit could get Speedy. He's an important contributer on a playoff team, they're not just going to give him away.
One day Pistons fans are telling us how good their bench is with Arroyo and Delfino improving by the day and telling us how Darko is about to bust onto the scene and prove that he belonged to be picked ahead of Carmelo and Wade. The next day Arroyo is a scrub and Darko was an obvious bust.
WTF Detroit?
Isn't Tyronn Lue out for the year?The Pistons, though, are expected to make a run at veterans Speedy Claxton (New Orleans), Tyronn Lue (Atlanta) and Brevin Knight (Charlotte). Claxton and Lue are in the final years of their contracts and make $3.6 million. Knight makes $4.6 this season and $4.4 in 2006-2007.
Trading Cato for any of those players would still leave the Pistons deep enough under the luxury tax threshold to re-sign Wallace and Billups.
I don't see why those teams would trade them Speedy or Knight.
Bernie would trade Brevin for that pick with little hesitation, IMO. Knight would have to approve of course, but why wouldn't he?
I doubt the Hornets would let go of Speedy - they have their own playoff run to think about.
I'm not liking a Finals matchup if they can land either of those points.
Marcus...you average 380+ posts a day.
That is freaking insane.
You should see me on Sundays.
Dumars said that Darko/Arroyo was the 1st part of the trade.
Yep, he does
Me neither. Being on Detroit either Speedy or Brevin would be the best backup PG in the league, on the best team (while possibly ensuring them as the best upon arrival). Considering Billups can easily play the two, that would make Detroit by far the nastiest guard trio in the league.
To be honest, Speedy to me as already the best backup PG in the league and is essentially a quality starter. Brevin is also a quality starter in my mind who does everything a PG should be able to do (handle the rock, penetrate, pass, defend etc...).
I am guessing Speedy is out of their reach. But I don't want Brevin on Detroit -- just how plausible is Detroit getting Knight?
I know it's been said...but the Pistons are scary if they somehow pull off getting Speedy, Brevin or (however) Mike James.
Lue is a ridiculously bad point, who used to live off his Laker rep. Claxton would make Detroit practically unbeatable.
Arroyo was never a good fit in Det...
Darko, well, it's about time...
I'm not overly scared of the Pistons getting a decent backup point guard. The less I see of Billups, the better. Even if they play them at the same time, that means someone in the starting lineup is sitting out.
I can live with that.
That said, please no Speedy.
It seems unlikely that the Pistons would be able to get Speedy since he's already on a solid team, but I think there is a very good chance that Joe will work out a trade for Brevin Knight.
Mike James is not going anywhere unless there are compotent players involved that will be going to Toronto in return. We are not going to add draft picks. We've stockpiled enough young talent, that phase of the rebuilding process is over (as evidenced by the Denver 1st rounder going to the Knicks in the Rose trade) and we are trying to surround them with veterans.
WTFDetroit.com is a good board.
I like the trade because we are no worse off than we were before. Darko and Arroyo did not improve our team one bit. But some "other Piston fans" (who think they can be GMs) say Joe should have got more out of this. Darko does not play and Arroyo was not Joe Dumars guy in the first place. Teams no this and may not have offered more than this. Really you only heard Orlando's name in this trade talk for a reason. This isn't a video game where all your trades workout even steven. We really don't know who got the best of this deal so "those" Piston fans who think they are GM's need to chill.
darko is very underrated here
pistons were trying to make him play a postion he did not play overseas
not his natural postion
you play him at his postion he will kick ass
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