You notice the people who say that about Bowen usually got someone on their team shut down by him. Just like the Piston smack. Detroit has pretty much owned everyone this year, those who are owned are usually the ones who .
Since when does a hard foul make a player dirty? It's not like he punched the guy in the balls while the ball switches courts (which has been done). He didn't take a swing at a guy. He didn't pull a jersey or shorts.
An excessively hard foul? Yes. But a dirty play? Come on. We've all seen worse.
Would anyone talk about this if Z didn't start to bleed?
A hard foul is a dirty foul when the hit is an act of vengence
The Million dollar question. Ilgauskas was hit hard, and it was done on purpose. But this wasn't Kenyon Martin throwing T-Mac to the ground. This wasn't Shaq's roundhouse on Brad Miller or Ron Artest's elbow to Rip's nose. He made a play for the ball, and did it with an extra amount of force because the Pistons didn't get the whistle on the other end. If he doesn't get Z just right, no one would've talked about this the next day.
You reap what you sow, Z threw the first elbow, shouldn't have done that.
Sheed has truly outdone himself this time. You can bet the target on his back just got a lot bigger for the referees. Not quite "Malone-ish" but he's pretty damn close. Just makes it easier for us in the finals, so here's to you Sheed. Cheers.
1 elbow was intentional and 1 was not.
When you get elbowed by someone 7'3" I'm sure it hurts, I believe it was unintentional because Z said it was but he should have conveyed that to Rasheed.
Is that how you'd like to win, with biased refereeing?Sheed has truly outdone himself this time. You can bet the target on his back just got a lot bigger for the referees. Not quite "Malone-ish" but he's pretty damn close. Just makes it easier for us in the finals, so here's to you Sheed. Cheers.
Yep, it wouldn't have hurt to have told Rasheed Wallace that it was unintentional
I don't root for the Pistons but I would NEVER insult Wallace so by referring to him or his actions as Malone-ish.
Just thought it would be funny to bump this thread after Horry's bite.
Also, if Sheed had bit Stack and then touched an official like Horry did he would have been thrown out. Honestly, after watching the refs T up Piston players for things like smiling, I was flat out amazed at how much Horry, Duncan, etc can get away with.
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Since you are crossposting with the same lame , I'll respond to this one as well. How do you see any similarity between the following:Just thought it would be funny to bump this thread after Horry's bite.
Also, if Sheed had bit Stack and then touched an official like Horry did he would have been thrown out. Honestly, after watching the refs T up Piston players for things like smiling, I was flat out amazed at how much Horry, Duncan, etc can get away with.
1. Robert Horry (a guy who never complains to the officials) pretends to bite someone and jokes with the officials afterward.
2. Rasheed Wallace (a guy who has a career long reputation for his temper, including waiting for, confronting and threatening a game official when he was with the Blazers) clubbing someone across the head with a clearly intentional forearm, opening him up in two places requiring a couple dozen s ches.
3. Anything Tim Duncan (who was ejected from a single game in his entire career, and had the ejection overturned by the league) has ever done. Ever.
Just thought it would be funny to bump this thread after Horry's bite.
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That's funny, because I don't remember Horry actually biting Stackhouse. Get your facts straight. Not only that but he had the decency to address the incident in his post-game quotes and actually came out and said that the situation got out of hand and he stopped himself before he tried to bite Stackhouse. I don't recall Sheed showing any remorse. My hate for Sheed goes beyond the Cavs incident anyways. I just don't like his whininess to the refs and he really never shows respect or sportsmanship to players outside his teammates.
I wasn't going to comment on the Horry biting (no damage done but it either a love bite or he was sucking on Stack's arm, choose your poison) and I still won't other than this sentence.
However since you went pre elbow-Z Rasheed in your post I'll go back in history to one of the least classiest incidents I've seen from an NBA player, it occured when Danny Ainge pulled Horry from a game and he threw a towel in Ainge's face as he walked to his seat.
That being said, overall Horry's a good guy IMO.
^You seriously cannot compare Sheed to Horry.
I wasn't drawing a comparison, just noting past innapropiate behaviour...very few instances where a player has been physical with a coach and bitten/sucked on the arm of an opposing player.
Sheed>Horry
FEED THE SHEED!
The way I remember it, Horry was upset about being traded to Phoenix since he had a seriously ill child back in Houston, and he has apologized profusely about that incident in the years since. I don't recall Rasheed ever apologizing for anything he's ever done, and he's done some stupid embarassing .
1/6/97 Robert Horry was suspended for two games after an altercation in the 4th quarter. After being removed from the game he screamed obcenities and threw a towel in Ainge's face, Horry had to be restrained by teammates.
5/12/97 Robert Horry was ejected from a WC playoff game after taking a swing at Utah's Jeff Hornacek.
4/24/03 Robert Horry was fined $10,000 for shoving a TNT cameraman, the incident was witnessed by a National Television audience.
3/3/06 Robert Horry was suspended two game by the league for inappropiate contact with an NBA ref and for an altercation with Stackhouse where he put his mouth on Stackhouse's elbow and admitted that he thought about biting him.
My post wasn't about who apologized for something stupid it was about the stupid things they've done. As you can see Horry's has more than his share of incidents over the years so don't try to paint him as saint.
An apology is good and well but it does not wash away or excuse stupid behaviour it's an admittance of stupid behaviour and an act of contrition.
Rasheed>Horry
Last edited by jochhejaam; 03-03-2006 at 11:47 PM.
Hahaha, some things are way dumber than others
Puh. Leeze. Your post is about no such thing. You are here posting about Horry being an assclown to minimize the embarassment of your own assclown, or to rage against the inherent unfairness of it all that Rasheed's well-earned reputation follows him, just because he clubs a guy's ing scalp open in retaliation. I simply mentioned that Horry went through a personal problem that didn't involve handguns or weed, and that you completely mischaracterized it to try to make Rasheed look like less of a up.
Fine with me. Setting aside the ring count, I'll just take the fact that my up drained a three over your up. If nothing else, I'll take the fact that one of my saints drained a three over your up when he was still somebody else's up.
You know damn well that Horry wouldn't even have been fined if he hadn't touched Baveta.
10/19/95 :The NBA fined Chris Webber (Was) $7,500 and suspended him for the first game of the regular season and fined Luc Longley $7,500 and suspended him for the first game of the regular season for fighting in October 17's Was-Chi game. Rasheed Wallace was also fined $5,000 for throwing the ball at Longley during the fight.
1/15/00 :The NBA fined Rasheed Wallace (Por) $7,500 for yelling at the refs and failing to leave the court in a timely manner following his ejection from Friday's Por-Pho game.
10/30/00 :The NBA fined Rasheed Wallace (Por) $10,000 for failing to leave the court in a timely manner and verbally abusing the refs following Friday's Por-Sac game.
2/2/01 :The NBA fined Rasheed Wallace (Por) $10,000 and suspended him for 2 games for hitting a ref with a towel following his ejection from Thursday's Por-Pho game.
4/3/01 : Portland suspended Rasheed Wallace for 1 game for inappropriate game conduct. [Portland was extremely upset with Wallace's latest ejection. Wallace has a league record 40 technicals.]
4/16/01 : Portland suspended Rasheed Wallace for 1 game for throwing a towel at teammate Arvydas Sabonis during a timeout during Sunday's Por-LAL game. Sabonis had accidentally hit Wallace in the face during the game.
12/21/02 :The NBA fined Rasheed Wallace (Por) $15,000 for attempting to go into the stands after Friday's Por-GS game.
1/18/03 : The NBA suspended Rasheed Wallace (Por) for 7 games for confronting and threatening a ref after Wednesday's Por-Mem game.
Congrats. You are a stupid reject.
Yep, nice rap sheet there for Rasheed
10/19/95 :The NBA fined Chris Webber (Was) $7,500 and suspended him for the first game of the regular season and fined Luc Longley $7,500 and suspended him for the first game of the regular season for fighting in October 17's Was-Chi game. Rasheed Wallace was also fined $5,000 for throwing the ball at Longley during the fight.
1/15/00 :The NBA fined Rasheed Wallace (Por) $7,500 for yelling at the refs and failing to leave the court in a timely manner following his ejection from Friday's Por-Pho game.
10/30/00 :The NBA fined Rasheed Wallace (Por) $10,000 for failing to leave the court in a timely manner and verbally abusing the refs following Friday's Por-Sac game.
2/2/01 :The NBA fined Rasheed Wallace (Por) $10,000 and suspended him for 2 games for hitting a ref with a towel following his ejection from Thursday's Por-Pho game.
4/3/01 : Portland suspended Rasheed Wallace for 1 game for inappropriate game conduct. [Portland was extremely upset with Wallace's latest ejection. Wallace has a league record 40 technicals.]
4/16/01 : Portland suspended Rasheed Wallace for 1 game for throwing a towel at teammate Arvydas Sabonis during a timeout during Sunday's Por-LAL game. Sabonis had accidentally hit Wallace in the face during the game.
12/21/02 :The NBA fined Rasheed Wallace (Por) $15,000 for attempting to go into the stands after Friday's Por-GS game.
1/18/03 : The NBA suspended Rasheed Wallace (Por) for 7 games for confronting and threatening a ref after Wednesday's Por-Mem game.
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