Who will win MVP?

[pache100]

Why did Nash not have this type of success in Dallas than?

The coaching Nash had in Dallas (pre-Avery Johnson) made a lot of difference, too. I don't know WHAT Don Nelson was doing the last couple of years he was there, but there wasn't much coaching going on.

[Stephen A. Smith]

What league are all of you fools watching? Is Disgruntled Lions Fan the only human being in this forum with a lick of common sense? The MVP this year is the Big Fella! The reasoning is pretty simple-because he's such a leader that he's done nothing to earn it. Think about it people!

We'll dismiss Billups and Dirk right off the bat because 1) they have all the same players around them as last year and they couldn't win an MVP then, why should they now? and 2) they aren't from large markets.

Pat Riley completely remade the Heat in the offseason, all but assuring them a mortal lock on the NBA Championship. However one of the realities of that change is that it takes time to get all the pieces in place and working. Now some players like Nash are greedy. He had a bunch of new pieces put around him but if you actually watch the game it's Nash who is always dribbling the ball, and he often only passes it to teammates who are wide open. By putting his teammates in this position it makes it impossible for them to truly shine and develop. Ask yourself, what would improve someone's game, shooting a bunch of wide open shots or actually having to work against a defense? So in a sense Nash is coddling his teammates and stunting their growth, kind of like a smothering parent who does everything for their child. His heart's in the right place, but he's hurting them in the long run.

Meanwhile look at what Shaq was willing to do. He went as far as to severely sprain his own ankle in order to assure that his team would have to play without him, meaning more playing time for all the new guys. Sure, he could have put up a 35/15/9 season average but that would just be making it too easy for the new additions. Instead, Shaq had a sub par year, so that his teammates would have to work harder and in the end be better players. IT'S CALLED TOUGH LOVE PEOPLE! Quite frankly if Shaq doesn't get the MVP I will not rest until a full investigation is launched.

[Dunc]

Something like this could only come from Stephen A... who of course must be a Heat fan.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, normally I'd cheer for my boys in Philly, but I don't think AI is going to be able to bring the Larry O'Brien trophy back this year. I picked the Heat at the start of the year, and since I was right then, I am standing by my pick.

[Dunc]

Lol. I like this guy!

[MoSpur]

I still like my pick. Elton Brand. 25pts, 12rbs. His team is nowhere near where they are if its not for him.

[mavsfan1000]

What league are all of you fools watching? Is Disgruntled Lions Fan the only human being in this forum with a lick of common sense? The MVP this year is the Big Fella! The reasoning is pretty simple-because he's such a leader that he's done nothing to earn it. Think about it people!

We'll dismiss Billups and Dirk right off the bat because 1) they have all the same players around them as last year and they couldn't win an MVP then, why should they now? and 2) they aren't from large markets.

Pat Riley completely remade the Heat in the offseason, all but assuring them a mortal lock on the NBA Championship. However one of the realities of that change is that it takes time to get all the pieces in place and working. Now some players like Nash are greedy. He had a bunch of new pieces put around him but if you actually watch the game it's Nash who is always dribbling the ball, and he often only passes it to teammates who are wide open. By putting his teammates in this position it makes it impossible for them to truly shine and develop. Ask yourself, what would improve someone's game, shooting a bunch of wide open shots or actually having to work against a defense? So in a sense Nash is coddling his teammates and stunting their growth, kind of like a smothering parent who does everything for their child. His heart's in the right place, but he's hurting them in the long run.

Meanwhile look at what Shaq was willing to do. He went as far as to severely sprain his own ankle in order to assure that his team would have to play without him, meaning more playing time for all the new guys. Sure, he could have put up a 35/15/9 season average but that would just be making it too easy for the new additions. Instead, Shaq had a sub par year, so that his teammates would have to work harder and in the end be better players. IT'S CALLED TOUGH LOVE PEOPLE! Quite frankly if Shaq doesn't get the MVP I will not rest until a full investigation is launched.

[Nashfan]

Mavsfan1000,

One of the reasons Nash is doing so well with Phoenix is because our coach lets him run the show. I never said Marion was complimentary to Nash's game. He is exactly that, a "complimentary player", not MVP. If I recall correctly you had shooters on your team when Nash was there. Nash has helped most of our players this year have their career highs. Has Dirk helped the other players have career highs this year? Also, I never said Marion was not important to the Sun's but when Nash went down for six games last year and Marion and Amare were both playing we lost those games, so Nash is the engine behind this team.

In regards to someone who said Duncan should be an MVP canidate, what are you smoking? Without Tony Parker your team might not be where it is right now in the standings. If I recall correctly he has taken his game to another level and Duncans numbers are not that great compared to last year. I understand he has a bad foot problem so that would explain his lower numbers but he had a bad ankle last year and it did not seem to slow him down as much. Tony Parker is your engine behind your team this year.

[doldrums]

no kobe?

[mavsfan1000]

Mavsfan1000,

One of the reasons Nash is doing so well with Phoenix is because our coach lets him run the show. I never said Marion was complimentary to Nash's game. He is exactly that, a "complimentary player", not MVP. If I recall correctly you had shooters on your team when Nash was there. Nash has helped most of our players this year have their career highs. Has Dirk helped the other players have career highs this year? Also, I never said Marion was not important to the Sun's but when Nash went down for six games last year and Marion and Amare were both playing we lost those games, so Nash is the engine behind this team.

In regards to someone who said Duncan should be an MVP canidate, what are you smoking? Without Tony Parker your team might not be where it is right now in the standings. If I recall correctly he has taken his game to another level and Duncans numbers are not that great compared to last year. I understand he has a bad foot problem so that would explain his lower numbers but he had a bad ankle last year and it did not seem to slow him down as much. Tony Parker is your engine behind your team this year.

I would like to see the suns play with Marion down and see how well they do. Amare is one dimensional (scoring) while Marion does that as well as rebound and defense. Marion's athletic ability prevents the suns from getting exploited on defense while being small. Nash always played well with small lineups and Marion is a small that can play big on defense.

[tlongII]

I would vote for LeBron James.

[ShoogarBear]

Damn, can't Zach Randolph get no love?

[mavsfan1000]

Randolph should be an MVP candidate. He is leading the Blazers to a terrific 18-37 record. Gotta respect the guy.

[SequSpur]

Nowitski.

[sa_butta]

Got to go with Dirk, he is most valuable to the team. Honorable mentions, Lebron and Kobe.

[reader]

Steve Nash

[DieMrBond]

I went to click on Dirk because he has definitly been the force (other than AJ ) behind that team... but i slipped and clicked on Chauncey. I dunno what i was thinking!

Atm, for me - its Dirk -> Nash -> Chauncey - Tony

Who voted for Shaq tho? Wade is leading that team, not Shaq isnt he? (Although, he seems to have gotten his s**t together the last couple of games)

[mavsfan1000]

How did Billups all of a sudden be the leader in the vote count? I guess a lot of piston fans on the board. There is a possibility of Billups being the MVP along with Ben Wallace being the DPOY.

[Pandaemonaeon]

Well, Pop has Dirk's back at least (don't have the link but it's from the SA Express):

"At this point," Popovich said, "I think Dirk has an edge. What Nash has done to keep those guys where they are is amazing, but Dirk has basically done the same thing in Dallas: rebounding, playing defense, doing a little bit of everything. And he's so unique, I think he's got a little edge on Steve right now, with a month, month and a half to go."

Which of the two has the better supporting cast: Nash or Dirk? I think Dirk's supporting cast only looks good in name value, and it's all about the game which Nash's guys have. I mean, Shawn Marion? As good as Howard and Terry is, they're nowhere near the same level as the Matrix... and don't get me started with Bell and Diaw.

[reader]

From that same article, Dirk picks Nash. I think it really will come down to Nash or Dirk. In the last two days Marc Stein and Steve Kerr both picked Nash over Dirk.


http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b....1d380450.html

Nowitzki is flattered to be in the MVP mix, but his vote, if he had one, would go to old friend and former teammate, Nash.

"We have one of the deepest teams in the league," Nowitzki said. "If I would be out for a couple games I don't think it would be that big a deal, so I think Steve is doing a heck of a job again with Phoenix, keeping their team involved. You know, it's tough to pick an MVP on the Detroit team or the San Antonio team because everybody is so good and they play for each other.

"So for me, it's Steve again." Dirk said Nash.

[Sense]

I'd say definitely Dirk. He has carried that team to a 44-11 record.

Last thing I wanna do with this........ poster is agree with him..


But I agree, Dirk is carrying this team without Nash and Finley. Nash doing his old self.


If chauncey gets the MVP, I'll think very low of the voters....


It's a ing team, chauncey is just part of it...


A big man better win it.

[cheguevara]

Steve Nash. Let's face it, Duncan is hurtin and having his lowest #s in his career. Oneal is just chillin waiting for the playoffs and eating a few too many twinkies meanwhile. Nowitzki is close, but he makes too many defensive errors and costs his team. Billups is #2, but his cast is so powerful and talented, that without Billups, Pistons would still be scary. So Nash is my pick, Suns form like Borltron and Nash just happens to be the head. and Suns are #4 team in the league, mainly 'cause of Nash.