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    Why does HCA look unlikely? It's not like we're 10 back.

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    Why does HCA look unlikely? It's not like we're 10 back.
    i believe we are 3 back (including tiebreaker)and there arent too many games left. we also have squandered so many oppurtunities to catch up i have a hard time seeing detroit lose 3 more times and us win 3 more games than them to catch up. i think the HCA race ended tonight

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    Who cares about HCA against DET?

    Miami is going to the Finals so SA will have HCA.

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    @ Nazr trying to stop Ray from hurting Bruce.

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    "Fortunately, they aren't likely to jump off the nearest roof like many of the crybabies that post here."............................................ ...........................EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Crazyleg Bowen strikes again

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    The hate on Bowen is realy unbelivable.

    One of the basketball fans said that sombody should "accidently" hit Bowen like he "accidenlty" is doing that...


    Damn some people do not know sports.
    And some people do not know Bowen.


    It's sometimes happen on the basketball court. You fight for ball, you fight for a space on the court , you have a ruval out there. Bang, bang and in the flow of the game (fight) it's just happen you slap somebody. Well Bowen kicked Allen. But that is reaction sometimes you do not do it purpose even if it looks like that.

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    Bruce ed up big time.

    His reputation in some quarters as "dirty" is solidified, and in by Ray and Vince about Bruce a couple years ago doesn't sound so y.

    But Bruce's up was just one of many Spurs ups in giving away a critical game in late March to a lottery team.

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    @ the homers. You know that if another player had kicked Parker or Manu in the back like that, Spurs fans would be all over him.

    Bowen admitted he kicked Allen in the heat of the moment and that he shouldn't have done that, but that it's done and he can't go back and undo it. Take it for what it was, Bowen shouldn't have done that and Allen should stop ing about Bowen to the media and concentrate on getting his team to the playoffs.

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    what homers 1Parker1?

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    ahhh offensive foul was called on Allen. and Bowen gave Allen a little love kick. Nothing else to be discussed here.

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    i believe we are 3 back (including tiebreaker)and there arent too many games left. we also have squandered so many oppurtunities to catch up i have a hard time seeing detroit lose 3 more times and us win 3 more games than them to catch up. i think the HCA race ended tonight
    Yeah, as I watched the Nets beat Detroit on one channel, and the Spurs rolling along on another, I was thinking, Ok, Dallas gets them this week, the Suns run them to death, and the Spurs have HCA.

    Then the Spurs piss this game away. It's almost like they don't want HCA for the finals.

    Two weeks ago, the way Detroit was playing, I thought for sure the Spurs had the edge. Now it doesn't look that way.

    I think you are right. HCA race for the finals ended tonight.

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    I wasn't able to see this one on the East coast but with Detroit losing as well this was probably one of the games that needed to be taken advantage of being that the Pistons are not likely to lose many more, barring a complete meltdown. I really believe this one sealed Detroit's HCA for the playoffs.

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    Bruce ed up big time.

    His reputation in some quarters as "dirty" is solidified, and in by Ray and Vince about Bruce a couple years ago doesn't sound so y.

    But Bruce's up was just one of many Spurs ups in giving away a critical game in late March to a lottery team.
    I never thought I would say this, but I agree with everything that boutons says here. I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I saw the replay of Bruce and Ray. It's out of character for Bruce, which made me wonder if there was more that we hadn't seen; but there's nothing to suggest that there was. I've labored under the belief that Bruce just takes that foul, hops up and goes to the other end, satisfied that he'd gotten under Ray's skin. After last night, I have to say I wonder if there hasn't been more that's gone unseen over the years. I don't want to doubt Bruce Bowen, but last night makes me wonder a bit.

    Mostly, that play -- for whatever effect it had on last night's game (and I'd argue that it was significant in many different respects) -- made me wonder about the poise of this team. I wonder if they aren't feeling some pressure and, for the moment at least, lacking the mental toughness to deal with it in a productive way. It's a play that was decidedly out of character, but one that bothered me all night last night.

    That play had nothing to do with the horrendous and soft defensive effort (like the soft defensive effort in Denver) that is uncharacteristic of Spurs' teams at this time of year.

    Last night's loss bothers me for more reasons than just another loss. There was a lot of bad stuff that went down in basketball terms and in psychic terms. A loss to either the Clippers or the Lakers would be even more troubling, particularly if the lack of mental and physical toughness continues.

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    I think some of you have the wrong angelic view of Bowen on the court. He is somewhat dirty, and things like the kick have happened for years. The Finley incident? The Wally karate kick? What happend last night was not really out of character.

    I wouldn't change him for anything, however. Last night was a bonehead play, but Bruce rarely makes bonehead plays.

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    Damn people. That was not that horrible what Bowen did even taking off all of the cir stances

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    Damn people. That was not that horrible what Bowen did even taking all of the cir stances
    He didn't charge into the stands and kick a fan, but you're not going to win citizenship awards for kicking players. It was a flat out dirty play - theres not really much more too it.

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    i think bowen was probably pretty frustrated with allen constantly talking about him, and the way allen jumped into him trying to draw a foul. it doesn't, however, excuse him for kicking allen like that. it will just feed the fire and make some people think allen has more of a legit gripe against bowen, which i still don't believe he does. that kick was not a good move at all.

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    Along with SPAM, the idea that the Spurs, or any team, can just switch on Championship play whenever they want is a myth.

    How can people say they think the Pistons are playing now in a way that doesn't scare anbody, and then say the way the Spurs are playing now is totally independent of how they wil play after April 19? If the Spurs can switch it from their current soft mediocrity, so can the Pistons.

    Pop always talks about the team making progress, "getting there". With the soft loss @Nuggets and now @Sonics, it sure looks like the Spurs aren't there, yet, and it's almost April. The Spurs defense, hustle, rebounding is really ty.

    The Spurs weaknesses now are mental, leadership, boredom, whatever, but talent isn't the problem.

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    march isn't over yet! SPAM could still arrive! in other news, i got my game 2 first round playoff tickets earlier... will be my first playoff game NBA wise, i was at the final four championship game in 98.

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    This isn't a Spurs team of the past, where they had many parts to integrate into a new way of doing things, gradually getting better. Their best 6 minutes of basketball was the opening exhibition against Miami. This team is very veteran, biding their time until the playoffs start. They have gotten the record they have mostly on talent not disire. They could very well lose the next two games also. But when the talent and desire come together, and it will, they will be fine, no matter where they are playing.

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    Bowen kicking Allen is very out of character for him. Not that this would excuse this in any way - and he hasn't suggested it would, like some players would immediately do - but was there some backstory behind the kick? Had Allen been a punk to him earlier? What was the cir stances of Allen's offensive foul earlier?

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    but was there some backstory behind the kick?
    yes. Allen truly hates Bowen and vice-versa, this goes years back

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