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well'well'well! mavs can do it next 10 years!!! watch out!
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this team is playing like total ing . they have the talent to pull together... but they dont have the brains. .......<<<<hahahhaha! funny! u!
that made absolutely no sense.
Are you TPark's brother?
No.Are you TPark's brother?
where are the mavs fishin?
You, sir, are blinded.
When all healthy and playing in sync, the Spurs have the most dominant player on the planet, and 3 of the top 4 players from either squad. They have more veteran experience, better shooters and individuals who fill there roles better, much less the ring count, and "Big Game" experience advantage is laughable. The ONLY reason the Spurs might not win a championship EASILY this year, is because Tim Duncan is limited in his mobility because of his foot injury.
The Mavs, frankly, are not AT ALL in the Spurs class when both teams are healthy - only one team in this league is.
You can argue records all you want, but when the season is over, after all things are equal schedule-wise, the Spurs win the division and WC COMOFORTABLY - despite fighting injuries and compacency ALL season. Just look at the remaining schedules, even if it were the Mavs up two - I would put my money on the Spurs.
You, sir, cannot read.
I said that based on talent and depth, the Mavs are better. but you clearly like to pick and choose what to read, considering I also said they are not mentally ready to win.
And to say that when completely healthy, the Spurs have the most dominant player on the planet shows just how ignorant you are. EVERYONE with simple basketball knowledge knows that when fully healthy, Shaquille O'Neal is still the most DOMINANT player in basketball. he may not be as skilled as Duncan, but he is far more DOMINANT.
Injuries??? The Spurs injuries are NOTHING compared to what the Mavs have gone through. The only guy to really miss any signifiacant time was Ginobili, which happened early in the year, while the schedule was quite easy. However, we have lost Howard, Griffin, Harris, Van Horn, Stackhouse, Daniels all for a significant amount of time. DO NOT compare injuries. If Dallas was as healthy as the Spurs have been, we would be ahead of the Spurs by AT LEAST 2 games.
You, sir, are a complete homer.
You are still blind.
Duncan is at his prime age-wise; Shaq has passed his. When healthy, now, Duncan is the superior player. He was always close.
I still disagree talent and depth wise; Spurs are, along with being tougher mentally, better coached, more experienced - both more talented and deeper than the Mavericks.
The discussion is academic, however. The Spurs are still going to win the division, then take the Mavs out in the 2nd round; regardless of what would happen is some theoretical world (where the Spurs are superior, also).
Ok, so Duncan may be in his prime. Doesnt mean hes more dominant that Shaq. He is a better player, no doubt about it, but Shaq is more dominant. Today's Shaq is still playing like one of the greatest centers of all time. No one stands a chance against him when he is healthy (which isnt often).
No way in is a bench of Beno, Barry, Finley, Horry, and Rasho better than a bench of Harris, Daniels, Stackhouse, Van Horn, and Dampier. Harris is WAY better than Beno. Daniels is definitley better than Barry. Stack blows Finley away. Van Horn is a better player than Horry, although Horry is one of the best guys to have in the NBA in the final minutes of a game, while Van Horn isnt. And although Dampier is lazy, when he plays to his potential, he would murder Rasho.
You can disagree all you want. But one thing we both agree on is that the Mavs will most likely lose in the second round. Although I think the Mavs are capable of beating the Spurs, mentally, they don't seem ready.
Alright, let's do this:
You list all the Mavs players in order of most valuable to least, I'll do the same with the Spurs. We'll then compare 1 to 1, 2 to 2 etc. The one that wins the most comparisons (has the more valuable player is each respective slot) has the deeper, more talented team. This is useless, proves nothing, offseason crap; but with all the seedings of signifigance decided, this about as close to offseason as we're going to get until June.
Duncan
Ginobilli
Parker
Bowen
Finley
Horry
Nazr
Rasho
Barry
Udrih
Oberto
Van Exel
Marks
Sanders
Ok... I dont get the point of this, especially since im a realistic fan, and you along with most people in this forum are complete homers. Why would I waste my time on that?
What the are you doing on a Spur's board if you won't let it's fans ridicule you and have fun at your expense? You're not very adept at this troll thing.
???
you are an idiot.
second of all, I'm not a troll. I used to post here a while back, but got unfairly banned just because I was a mavericks fan.
Anyways, I have time to kill, so this is how mine would go...
Duncan>Dirk
Ginobilli<Howard
Parker=Terry
Bowen>Griffin
Finley<Stackhouse
Horry<Dampier
Nazr=Van Horn
Rasho<Diop
Barry<Daniels
Udrih<Armstrong
Oberto=Mbenga
Van Exel>Marshall
Marks=Powell
in terms of their value to their teams, this is how I would rate them. Duncan means everything to the Spurs. He opens everything up on offense, and picks up a lot on defense. IMO, without Duncan, the Spurs are not that great at all. They would MAYBE get the 8th seed without Duncan. Most people that are unbiased (which there aren't many of in this forum) would say the same. They have some good players, but most of them are old, injury prone, streaky shooters. The only talent they can really depend on for the future is from Parker and Ginobili... MAYBE Beno. The Mavs have a much younger squad. Harris, Howard, Daniels, Dirk, Diop, Terry (the oldest being Terry at 28), and maybe even Rawle Marshall... all still have many years to go.
Anyways, those are just my opinions, and you are probably going to throw petty insults at me for them as most homer spurs fans do, but whatever. Doesnt make a difference in the world.
Dallas is not getting by San Antonio, LA, Phoenix, Detroit, Miami or the Nets.
So where is the fishing trip going to be?
ok, normally you seemed to be a pretty good poster, but that was just ignorant. San Antonio and Detroit, I understand, but LA? Phoenix? Miami? New Jersey? you gotta be kidding me...
To use a term you're familar with, you suck.typical biased viewpoint of a homer spurs fan... lets analyze the spurs talent, shall we?
how is that for talent evaluation?
Ginobili less than Howard = give me a break! Howard is a young promising and still developing potential star but when he accomplishes 1/8 of what Manu (gold medals,int MVPs, all star, 2 les) has done and proves he is clutch like Manu then revisit this.
Parker is also far superior than Terry period and getting better every day.
ginobili< howard??? one was an all star, and almost won finals mvp. howard is good, but not on ginobili's level. he may be in a few years, but not now for sure.
In terms of who is more valuable to their team??? Howard is FAR more valuable to the Mavs than Ginobili is to the Spurs. Terry hits WAY more clutch shots than Parker ever has, and that is why I said they were equal... in terms of value to their team. However, Parker and Ginobili has one of the most dominant interior players of all time... the Mavs have Diop and Dampier. you can put Terry and Howard on the Spurs, and they both average 20 a night on 50% shooting.
Last edited by v2000; 03-30-2006 at 03:20 PM.
you clearly didnt understand the point. I was talking about who is more important to their team's success. Howard is more important to the Mavs than Ginoibli is to the Spurs. We weren't talking about skill... although IMO, Howard is more talented than Ginobili. Ginobili has more experience, and was able to begin his career in a much better situation than Josh Howard did. and Ginobili should not have been an all-star. Pau Gasol, Jason Richardson, Carmello Anthony, and Corey Maggette all deserved it more, and are better players than Ginobili. its re ed that fans get to vote who are all-stars. Yao Ming had no place starting over Shaq in 2004 for the All-Star game. and dont say that the coaches vote in the bench players, because it all depends on the votes. you have to have enough votes to even be considered for an all-star appearance.
Anyways, back to the point... just wait... in another year or two, Howard will be averaging about 20 and 10 per night, and will be an all-star, while people are regretting saying that Ginobili will soon be the best player in basketball, and the next Jordan, and all that bull that so many stupidass analysts started to say. I can't believe that even Tim Cowlishaw said that Ginobili was possibly the best player in the NBA.
I believe he said, best, "International Player" in the NBA. Quite a difference.
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