I said Horry was comparable to Sheed becauseI think Horry is more of a winner than Sheed. I have found Sheed to be kind of a choker a lot of the times. Take the series where the Mavs played the Blazers when Dirk dropped 46 points on Sheed one game. Like I said.. Horry would probably kill Dirk or break on of his limbs before he let Dirk do that. In the playoffs.. or when he feels like it.. Horry is a near psychotic winner. And he will do anything to win.
I think if you swapped Horry and Van Horn, that would be the difference between the Mavs and Spurs. The Mavs would definitely win the playoff series IMO.
I would agree....Van Horn is a waste of skin, IMO. I remember when people were saying he was better than Duncan when they came out of college.I think if you swapped Horry and Van Horn, that would be the difference between the Mavs and Spurs. The Mavs would definitely win the playoff series IMO.
You should change your first sentence by saying I am a spurs fan. Stop giving Horry so much credit.
Thanks for your props. It was a very close, exciting game. I can't wait for the playoffs.
I've been away from the forum for a couple of days. I traveled to S.A. to attend the Spurs/Mavs game. Now that my anger has subsided, I have to give my props to the Mavs also. They played an outstanding game from start to finish.
Obviously, the Spurs didn't play well. But, we have to admit the Mavs defensive pressure, great shooting and overall intensity had mostly to do with that. They simply outplayed the Spurs.
With Dirk being on fire in the second half and no one seemingly able to slow him down, I am curious as to why Pop didn't try Sean Marks? He's obviously long, athletic and he could have paid dividends on the offensive side of the ball. Especially with Horry out. Anybody know why?
probably because he sucks.
That question was not directed toward any ill-informed Mavs homers - like yourself
that post was not directed at you. mind your own business.
FTM.
When they can win a playoff series and advance to a game that really counts, I might give them some praise.
F em.
Mind your own
www.dallasbasketball.com
Don't try to make Mavs fans go...this is the only good Spurs site of many. There are NO good Mavs sites of many.
Please, please....give us a home.
AD. You're fine and a very level-headed Mavs fan.Don't try to make Mavs fans go...this is the only good Spurs site of many. There are NO good Mavs sites of many.
Please, please....give us a home.
I was just giving the other guy some lip.
You certainly do the Mavs nation proud.
Dallas-Basketball's cool. Sure it's EZBoard but... it's... yeah, I guess you're right.
The funny thing is that Spurs fans here are much more tolerant of different opinions than any Mav site I have found. If you say anyhting remotely critical of the Mavs, even if you are a Mavs fan, there is a group of Mavs fans that will run you off all these sites and either force you to quit posting or get you banned.
Yet I have seen people here be much more respectful of Mavs fans that are criticizing the Spurs.
I don't really understand it. Maybe it is just a small group of weirdos that has a strangle hold on all the Mavs sites.
.....with the chief weirdo perhaps being...Mark Cuban
Harris isn't a starter...I was referring to Griffin and HOWARD...
Howard >>>>>>>>>>> Horry
Spurs appreciate Avery showing that hand in a relatively meaningless game.
Probably an age dynamic. The Mavs bandwagon started rolling in, what, '00 or '01? Spurs have been decent, or very good (other than a brief stint in the late '80's) for nearly 30 years. This board, I am sure, runs the gammot of age brackets. From the juvenile (not tolerant or all that enlightened), to the blue hair (been at this long enough to realize how truly pointless professional sports are), and everything in between.
you are an idiot if you think that was a meaningless game. if the spurs happen to lose HCA, that will be the first game to pop in your mind.
1st, HCA is overrated; but the Spurs won't lose it nonetheless. (Mavs fan still haven't had the lesson wrenched through Spurs fan heart in '95, and again in '01 & '03 - HCA means nothing).
I used to go on Lakers boards and I sound EXACTLY like you; proclaiming a important victory for the Spurs in a regular season game; that this meant the Spurs WERE competing and at least the equal of the Lakers. Then, in the playoffs, Phil would pull out a completely different defense on the Spurs, shut them down and take them out. It took a couple of season for Pop to catch on, and start coaching an ENTIRE season, not just a game at a time.
What good is HCA, if in the 1st game in Dallas, Pop runs something at Avery he ain't ready for, and the Mavs lose that game. If you have put all you eggs in that advantage, and it is unceremoniously wrenched away in 48 minutes, it IS demoralizing, and you have essentially lost the series after a single game. The three most humiliating series the Spurs have ever played began IN SAN ANTONIO! Once to Houston, twice to the Lakers.
How'd that HCA work out for Phoenix last season?
You thing in an important playoff game, Gino & Tony sit for 5 minutes of a 4th quarter in which the Spurs are trailing? You think in an important game, with that game on the line, Pop gives Tim the ball in the high post and says "make something happen"? What, exactly, did Pop show Avery there about how he will REALLY draw up a last minute play?
Am I saying Pop wanted to lose this game? No, he would have rather won. Did the Spurs play hard? Yes, absolutely; but what they didn't do, was play a game specifically planned and schemed to beat the Mavericks.
Next time, they will.
Not me, actually ... the first game(s) that would pop into my mind are losses to the Cavs, Kings, 76'ers, Nuggets, Sonics, the freakin' Hawks....
All of those games the Spurs *should have* won to even be in that position to begin with. I wouldn't think of that one at all because Dallas has a really good team and I'm not ashamed or whatever of the Spurs losing to them.
In the regular season, anyway.
Mavs fans...please stop mentioning HCA...the Mavs will NOT get the 1st seed...
Their schedule is too tough. If the Spurs had lost to the Grizz last night, then it would at least be possible (still unlikely)...
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The homers who say after every bad loss (Spurs play like to lose against a ty team) "It's only one game" always look like even more stupidly short-sighted in April when the Spurs are in a tight HCA race and need "only one game" to get HCA against a good team.
Last week's little fiasco of the Spurs dropping 2 games @ATT in April just about neutralized Mavs losing 5 games in 7 a couple weeks ago.
The Mavs could continue their roll and play like they really want HCA and WC championship by winning all these games:
Mon 10 @ L.A. Clippers (Clips are not playing well)
Wed 12 @ Golden State
Thu 13 @ Phoenix
2 days rest
Sun 16 Utah
2 days rest
Wed 19 L.A. Clippers
Because we KNOW HCA always means WC championship. (or at least once every 3 years)
BTW, you think that B2B @ Phoenix is a cakewalk?
Spurs have:
Seattle - 11th (Suck - 12 -25 on the road)
Orlando - 13th (Suck - 9 - 30 on the road)
@ Minnesota - 16th (Suck - 24 - 15 @ home and Garnetts got knee issues, now)
Utah - 17th (Can lose this B2B & still win HCA 18 - 20 on the road)
@ Houston - 19th (Suck) (Must Win if going to end tied Rockets 15 - 23 @ home)
Not much of a stretch for the Spurs to win out (and they have the luxury of dropping EITHER the Minnesota or Utah games - if Dallas drops either @ Clips, GS, or Phoenix, Spurs can lose both.)
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