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    may the force kick yo ass ObiwanGinobili's Avatar
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    gotdamn.
    I actually laugh out loud everytime you post "I saididdd".

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    I saiddddddd you're a ing dumbass I saiddddddidididid.

    What do you disagree with? Bring something to the argument other than ignorant, dip leftist tree hugger mumbling.

    Everything I enumerated has much more to do with our oil prices than us going into Iraq.

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    As I read all the posts, I see everyone ing about the prices and low mileage. Has anyone given thought to conservation? Is all the driving you do really necessary? Sure, it's cool to go wherever you want whenever you want. It's true I don't have to go to work anymore so that probably puts me one up on you but I also don't jump in the old vehicle to go somewhere I probably didn't need to.Think about it! Did I really miss anything? I don't think so. I filled up over a week ago in Georgetown and I still have over 3/4 tank. I spend a lot of time at home watching the Spurs and pounding on this keyboard. I don't feel disconnected at all. There are a lot of people who just jump in the old vehicle because they are bored. That being the case coupled with the price of fuel, I don't have much sympathy. I don't like the high prices either but what are you gonna do about it? When I said I filled up in Georgetown, I was on my way back from Tunica Mississippi where I enjoyed a week of gambling. Now, some might say that I didn't need to go to Mississippi but I don't do that all the time. By staying home most of the time, I was able to save and conserve to afford it. Just a thought!

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    I saiddddddd you're a ing dumbass I saiddddddidididid.

    What do you disagree with? Bring something to the argument other than ignorant, dip leftist tree hugger mumbling.

    Everything I enumerated has much more to do with our oil prices than us going into Iraq.
    Okay, all those things are/have been/will continue happening. I agree for hte most part. But are we to believe that US Intelligence did or did not know about these factors and did or did not take them into consideration when waging a half decade long war that will tax resources and possibly have a synergistic effect upon the price of oil, especially with us alienating the middle east with our actions?

    I saidddd

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    As I read all the posts, I see everyone ing about the prices and low mileage. Has anyone given thought to conservation? Is all the driving you do really necessary? Sure, it's cool to go wherever you want whenever you want. It's true I don't have to go to work anymore so that probably puts me one up on you but I also don't jump in the old vehicle to go somewhere I probably didn't need to.Think about it! Did I really miss anything? I don't think so. I filled up over a week ago in Georgetown and I still have over 3/4 tank. I spend a lot of time at home watching the Spurs and pounding on this keyboard. I don't feel disconnected at all. There are a lot of people who just jump in the old vehicle because they are bored. That being the case coupled with the price of fuel, I don't have much sympathy. I don't like the high prices either but what are you gonna do about it? When I said I filled up in Georgetown, I was on my way back from Tunica Mississippi where I enjoyed a week of gambling. Now, some might say that I didn't need to go to Mississippi but I don't do that all the time. By staying home most of the time, I was able to save and conserve to afford it. Just a thought!

    The only place I ever drive is to work.

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    Okay, all those things are/have been/will continue happening. I agree for hte most part. But are we to believe that US Intelligence did or did not know about these factors and did or did not take them into consideration when waging a half decade long war that will tax resources and possibly have a synergistic effect upon the price of oil, especially with us alienating the middle east with our actions?

    I saidddd
    The security of the country is more important than gas price control.

    At the current price it is still cheap considering supply and demand.

    You just don't get it do you.

    Stuck on Stupid is what you are....

    You don't go to war because of public opinion or gas prices dumbass. We went to war because every radical islam organisation wants to kill us and our way of life.

    The American way of life is NOT to let killers like Saddam kill his own people.

    One second you got liberals bashing Bush for war for oil.. the next crying about lack of cheap oil

    MAKE UP YOUR ING Mind..

    give up your car and your air conditioning or shut the up. You use the oil just like all of us do...

    And as far as the war join the Army or shut the up. Let the volunters serve and root for our side for a ing change for once.

    Last edited by Vashner; 04-22-2006 at 12:47 PM.

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    But are we to believe that US Intelligence did or did not know about these factors and did or did not take them into consideration when waging a half decade long war that will tax resources and possibly have a synergistic effect upon the price of oil, especially with us alienating the middle east with our actions?

    I saidddd
    Again, Iraq has a marginal effect on costs of gas. Actually I forgot one other huge thing in my list - the environmental freaks, mainly through the actions of liberal Congressional types, have blocked the building of any new refinery in this country for over 25 years.

    Did none of them stop to think what would happen when refining capacity was tapped out but the demand for fuel continued to increase as population grew?

    I don't know if you're really young or what, but analysts have been forecasting this explosion in gas prices for years due to all the factors I cited, with the obvious exception of Katrina and Rita putting 200 oil rigs at the bottom of the Gulf.

    You've also got some political turmoil in Nigeria right now which is also affecting prices.

    Like I said, you accuse people of ignoring reality, but that seems to be what you're guilty of yourself due to your recycled, monotonous, stubborn insistance that we are seeing the prices at the pump that we are because of Iraq.

    Every single thing I've listed in this thread has more to do with our gas prices than what's going on Iraq, and I'm sorry there's not a Democratic party talking point that states otherwise, it appears that's the only way that you'll understand.

    And just to make myself clear, I'm not thilled about the gasoline prices. But economists have been saying this was going to happen for the last 10-12 years, and most were pointing at the time to our limited refining capacity (thanks, tree huggers) and the growth of the population in China as the key reasons, along with tightening environmental laws (thanks again, tree huggers).

    So this shouldn't be a shock to anyone who was paying attention. America as a country has been making this bed for the last 20 years and now we're all going to have to lay in it.

    There's three things we need to do to get out of this mess - get serious about researching alternative fuel sources, bring back nuclear power as a viable means for large-scale energy generation, and loosen all the looney environmental laws regarding refinery construction.

    The irony is that most of this will only happen when the tree hugging left pulls their head out of their asses on the environmental regulations they scream about 24-7, and they're the ones screaming loudest that we need to do something about the gas prices.

    But all they want to do is run and play Robin Hood with the profits of the oil companies that are largely being generated thanks to the laws they put in place surrounding our energy production and policies, instead of treating the root of the problems themselves - the idiotic laws they have put in place that make it next to impossible for this country to expand its energy production capabilities at a time when the population is exploding.

    No forward thinking whatsoever, just ing about the here and now and lots of screaming about 'not in my backyard'. You reap what you sow.

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    You don't go to war because of public opinion or gas prices dumbass. We went to war because every radical islam organisation wants to kill us and our way of life.
    Those guys weren't in Iraq, but I understand you are easily confused.
    The American way of life is NOT to let killers like Saddam kill his own people.
    I am so glad we invaded Sudan and stopped all the killing in Darfur. It's great to know the US will always act against evil no matter what.

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    It was a sad day when it took $30 to fill up the tank in my Civic right after Katrina, and it looks like the days of wallet-robbery are back. The amount of profit petroleum companies are making is absolutely ridiculous.
    Yeah, a whole 10 percent profit. How much does you company make.
    How much you pay for a gallon of milk and that bottle of water you
    are sucking on. Paper said Friday I think it was, gas is really at about
    what it should be when compared to prices in the past. We paid three
    dollars a gallon back in the eighties, I think it was, in todays dollars for
    a gallon of gas.

    Oh, and ask your congressman or state rep if they would care to cut
    the governments profit on a gallon of gas......hehehehehe. I need a
    good laugh and see tell me what they say.

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    In a fungible commodity market like gasoline, price es can be caused by one of two factors:

    1) market forces
    2) collusion

    There is some collusion in the oil markets because the OPEC nations try to fix price, but $67 oil alone does not explain our gas prices. So either it's a combination of strengthening demand and restricted supply in an inelastic market, or the oil bigwigs are price-fixing.

    So, either every single politician and law enforcement official in this country is in cahoots with Big Oil, given that the first one to nail them for collusion could become popular enough to be elected President, which would mean this whole "democracy" thing is an illusion to keep us quiet, or the price is high because we have too much demand and not enough supply, and the slightest disruption creates price es, and we're screwed in the short and medium term.
    That is the big problem as well as the additives, which cant be sent
    by pipeline, ethanol, too corrosive, so has to be shipped by truck.
    Maybe the environmentalist are in cahoots with big oil, since they keep
    stopping us from getting more oil by opposing drilling anywhere in the
    U.S.. Mexico and Cuba are out in the Gulf drilling now, and where are
    we....our Government passes laws stopping us from drilling.

    Even our wonderful liberal friends up East don't want windmills in the
    Atlantic, would ruin their view. What a bunch, what a bunch......

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    Again, Iraq has a marginal effect on costs of gas. Actually I forgot one other huge thing in my list - the environmental freaks, mainly through the actions of liberal Congressional types, have blocked the building of any new refinery in this country for over 25 years.

    Did none of them stop to think what would happen when refining capacity was tapped out but the demand for fuel continued to increase as population grew?
    Fact check: oil companies actually have shut down several refineries over the past 25 years, not because enviros or the government forced them to, but because it makes business sense to get rid of outdated, high-cost facilities, and to keep supply tight with demand in order to keep prices up.

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    National average is up to 2.88.

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    We paid three
    dollars a gallon back in the eighties, I think it was, in todays dollars for
    a gallon of gas.
    That was in 1981. The e in prices caused an economic depression. The economy is more robust now. But it can't hold out forever. On the news tonight, they were saying to expect $5 gas this summer, and even higher in the southeastern states ($6-$8 a gallon). That will start a depression.

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    Fact check: oil companies actually have shut down several refineries over the past 25 years, not because enviros or the government forced them to, but because it makes business sense to get rid of outdated, high-cost facilities
    Well duh, if you've got a refinery where it costs twice as much to refine as your other ones due to the cost of maintenance and parts, that makes sense.

    The problem with that idea is that the environmental goons wouldn't let them build a new, more efficient one to replace it.

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    My biggest problem with the gas is that it varies like 3 cents every block. lol

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    Actually, around here they're running low on gas. I passed by 2 gas stations the other day which had signs that they were closed due to a shortage of gass !

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