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  1. #76
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    ManuMania, everytime that someone attacks, beats up, or kills someone of another race and calls them racial names doesn't mean they did it BECAUSE of race. There's hundreds of other reasons why stuff happens ... they stole from them, they are mental cases, they are retaliating against something else, etc. etc.

    That's why I was waiting to see the evidence of racial motivation. To me, Spurminator, timvp and I'm sure several other people, the original AP article didn't have enough details in it to make that conclusion soundly.

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    Sounds like the racial aspect is being overplayed here.
    How is that possible when that was their REASON for attacking him in this way?

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    As for your question about the 12-year-old/16-year-old, I would argue that it's morally wrong. A 12-year-old is a pre-pubescent child.

    I'm not going to get into it though. I have 30 people coming over to my house tonight and I'm trying to get organized

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    As for your question about the 12-year-old/16-year-old, I would argue that it's morally wrong. A 12-year-old is a pre-pubescent child.
    morally wrong?? pfff... I resent that

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    I could understand how one living in San Antonio might be cautious about defining an incident as "racially motivated." The political culture regarding Hispanic-white "race" relations in S.A. is textbook self-victimization iden y-politics crap.

    But East Texas, roughly everything from I-45 eastward, excluding urban Houston, is a different animal. While I've met some salt of the earth people from up that way... there are also many, many people with fangs bared, ready to strike. If you're not white, or you are white but are married to the "wrong" person or have adopted the "wrong" child, or even if you look a little too "big city," you're taking your life into your own hands if you draw attention to yourself once you get off the major highways.

    It's every bit as bad as "the ghetto" in the city, maybe even worse, because they're not just coming after you because they think you have something of value to take, but because they simply hate you and want you to die.

    A lot of those people, I think somewhere down through the generations, they stopped being truly human.

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    I love how SA210 is educating TIMVP on racism, when he himself is a minority

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    morally wrong?? pfff... I resent that

    You can resent it all you want, still doesn't make it right.

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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    I could understand how one living in San Antonio might be cautious about defining an incident as "racially motivated." The political culture regarding Hispanic-white "race" relations in S.A. is textbook self-victimization iden y-politics crap.

    But East Texas, roughly everything from I-45 eastward, excluding urban Houston, is a different animal. While I've met some salt of the earth people from up that way... there are also many, many people with fangs bared, ready to strike. If you're not white, or you are white but are married to the "wrong" person or have adopted the "wrong" child, or even if you look a little too "big city," you're taking your life into your own hands if you draw attention to yourself once you get off the major highways.

    It's every bit as bad as "the ghetto" in the city, maybe even worse, because they're not just coming after you because they think you have something of value to take, but because they simply hate you and want you to die.

    A lot of those people, I think somewhere down through the generations, they stopped being truly human.

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    You can resent it all you want, still doesn't make it right.
    not right? not right for whom? When I was 15 I had a girlfriend that was 13, in fact I believe we were still together when I turned 16. That relationship was beautiful! Who the are you to come in here and tell me that it was wrong?? Seriously

    We're not talking creepy old man taking advantage of an impressionable kid here. This is 2 kids.

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    Who the are you to come in here and tell me that it was wrong??
    Who the are you to tell me me and Kori are wrong for thinking that, if we had a 12 year old daughter, wed be wrong in thinking her dating a 16 year old is wrong.


    15 to 13 is alot different than 16 to 12.

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    Please go to the Political Forum and make another thread to argue about whether it's "right" for a 12-year-old to date a 16-year-old if you want to debate it.

    This story isn't about that.

    Prayers to the victim.

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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    Who the are you to tell me me and Kori are wrong for thinking that, if we had a 12 year old daughter, wed be wrong in thinking her dating a 16 year old is wrong.


    15 to 13 is alot different than 16 to 12.
    hey I'm not telling you how to raise your kids man, you want to ban your kid from dating 16 year olds, its fine by me, but don't proclaim its "morally wrong" like its a fact. Its an opinion.

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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    Please go to the Political Forum and make another thread to argue about whether it's "right" for a 12-year-old to date a 16-year-old if you want to debate it.

    This story isn't about that.

    Prayers to the victim.
    you're right

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    but don't proclaim its "morally wrong" like its a fact
    Don't proclaim that its right either.

    Works both ways.

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    I love how SA210 is educating TIMVP on racism, when he himself is a minority
    So just by being in a minority race gaurantees that you can't possibly be narrow-minded in a any way and blind to certain racial acts and what possibly drives them?

    You make alot of sense.

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    So just by being in a minority race gaurantees that you can't possibly be narrow-minded in a any way and blind to certain racial acts and what possibly drives them?

    You make alot of sense

    I think you are being racist by saying that.


    I demand a press conference announcing how sorry you are, and how much you love other minorities.

    (dials number for lawyers)

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    I think you are being racist by saying that.


    I demand a press conference announcing how sorry you are, and how much you love other minorities.

    (dials number for lawyers)
    You are ridiculous. You haven't said anything that changed any facts.

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    Don't proclaim that its right either.

    Works both ways.
    WTF?? I'm not proclaiming its right, I'm saying it doesn't merit a beat down like rustyshackleford said. Besides, one doesn't proclaim things "right", I'm not trying to force kids into having those kinds of relationships, I'm saying don't judge the kids that do.

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    I'm saying don't judge the kids that do
    Were not "judging" the kids.

    This isnt a clothes choice.

    This is a 16 year old vs 12 year old, its wrong, theres too much of an age difference.

    Period.


    I'm saying it doesn't merit a beat down like rustyshackleford said
    who?

    You are ridiculous. You haven't said anything that changed any facts.
    gawd it was a joke....


    Your wound up too tight.

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    Sad story.... angering in certain regards...

    Hope the victim can pull through....

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    Were not "judging" the kids.

    This isnt a clothes choice.

    This is a 16 year old vs 12 year old, its wrong, theres too much of an age difference.

    Period.
    again, who the are you to say "its wrong, period"?

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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    Sad story.... angering in certain regards...

    Hope the victim can pull through....
    yeah, hope the guy can out live those ers!

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    Please go to the Political Forum and make another thread to argue about whether it's "right" for a 12-year-old to date a 16-year-old if you want to debate it.

    This story isn't about that.

    Prayers to the victim.

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    Glad to see the details have surfaced. Obviously race played a major role in this attack, but there were not enough details in the original article to make that connection.

    My hope for their burning in for eternity stands regardless.


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