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Poor Kobe the victim.
Your point?Hey, at least he doesn't run into the stands to fight with fans. So subtle.
You've posted numerous times here saying Bowen doesn't do any physical harm, you've been proven wrong numerous times: headbutt, kick to the back, flying kick to the face etc.
Why is it so hard for you to admit this?
Then to top it off, you try steer this off topic even further by bringing Artest into this discussion. Take off the blinders lady. Bowen is dirty, Artest can be dirty, and I have no problem with it, I actually like it.
Poor Kobe the victim.
I think that would make Nash look like a lying fool. Anyone who saw the clip knows Nash was staring right at the play about a foot away. Better to say nothing at all than to say "I really didn't see the play" or "I'm not sure what happened."
And what about Kobe's elbows??
There is no difference between Bowens and Raja Bells style of play. If Bell was playing for the Spurs everyone here would love him.
Now to get back on topic... This is actually a result of a lot of bad blood between kobe and bell. Bell was with the 76ers when kobe was a high school player in philly, and kobe would regularly practice with the 76ers during that time (due to his dad's connections I guess). From what i've heard kobe would routinely disrespect bell while they were playing and that has grown into a hatred of sorts. You can't just go and lay a guy out with this much on the line, but the tension between these two goes back way farther than the small jabs and elbows of the series.That was pretty bad. Not only did Bell grab Kobe around his kneck and twist him around, the then used his other arm to push him down. Kobe litterally bounces on the hardwood floor if you look at the video.
He'll definitely be suspended next game, no question. And that foul by Kwame Brown people are comparing it to isn't even close. What I don't get is, why is Bell so dumb? It's not like the Suns were losing the game. I know he and Kobe were getting into some heated fights out there, but still. He could have given Kobe a hard foul on his way to the basket...he didn't have to make such an obvious flagarant.
harm
n 1: any physical damage to the body caused by violence or accident or fracture etc. [syn: injury, hurt, trauma] 2: the occurrence of a change for the worse [syn: damage, impairment] 3: the act of damaging something or someone [syn: damage, hurt, scathe] v : cause or do harm to; "These pills won't harm your system"
What the are you talking about? The only harm Bowen has ever caused anyone in a ten yerar NBA career is when Carter Sprained his ankle.
Now if you want to talk about Karl Malone and harm you will not be talking BS.
I think that subtlety is the distinction right there. Had Raja Bell just delivered a very hard foul on Kobe from behind and even remotely tried to make it look like a play on the ball, there would be no suspension. Raja stood flat footed, let Kobe pass him, then clotheslined him, hooked his neck, and shoved him to the ground. There is no gray area to defend him. Raja Bell even admitted he got carried away and crossed the line. The intent is obvious. Whether Kobe elbows opponents on purpose or not, he doesn't make it overt and obvious that he intends to hurt them. While you think Kobe's elbows are just as bad, your admission that Kobe is more subtle answers the question as to why Raja will be suspended and Kobe won't be.
I didn't see Kobe's elbow land flush to anything. I haven't studied it over and over, but it looked at best like a glancing blow and at worst that Raja flopped. It's funny that if Manu gets hit and falls, he automatically flopped and is a dirty sorry flopper, but when other people do it it just gets ignored.
I didn't know you were a walking ing dictionary. Maybe I should have used a different word, like hurt. Oh wait, that's a ing synonym of harm. It's right there listed next to injury.
Maybe I should have used the word malicious to describe Bowen's acts instead, since he actually didn't hurt anyone, but the intent was there.
Main Entry: mal·ice
Pronunciation: 'ma-l&s
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin malitia, from malus bad
1 : desire to cause pain, injury, or distress to another
what the are all the kings fans doing here? i thought you all committed suicide after 2002? oh well, you've got some spunk i guess. must be hard to cheer for a team that never wins .I didn't know you were a walking ing dictionary. Maybe I should have used a different word, like hurt. Oh wait, that's a ing synonym of harm. It's right there listed next to injury.
Maybe I should have used the word malicious to describe Bowen's acts instead, since he actually didn't hurt anyone, but the intent was there.
Main Entry: mal·ice
Pronunciation: 'ma-l&s
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin malitia, from malus bad
1 : desire to cause pain, injury, or distress to another
raja bell. steve nash. those little es are getting dispatched in game 6 and then we wont have to put up with their cheap shotting asses any more. mike d'antoni looks like a 70's porn star posing as a coach. he's not good enough to hold phil's balls on his best day.
The question is.....................why are you here?
Seriously....he must get suspended...that's a bush league play to the highest degree. No one will remember Raja Bell in 5 years let alone in the annals of the game. People comparing it to the Boris and Kwame incident definitely need to look at the game footage from that incident. Boris flopped once he felt contact, secondly Kobe's "elbow" didnt' even connect with Raja at all. The replay clearly shows a ton of space between Raja's wincing and Kobe's elbow. He flopped and got the call, just like he's been doing all series. He's basically molesting Kobe all over the court, grabbing his jersey, throwing arm bars, forearm shivers in the back almost everytime Kobe posts him up. He's not a good defender, he's just a prick. I have more respect for Bowen than I do have for Raja. Yes, Kobe retaliates with the best of them, but come game 6, Kobe will go off and these Suns can get their fishing tackle ready. Enough already...they flop more than any team I have ever seen.
I'm truly sorry if Bruce hurt any Kings or Kings' fans feelings. I'm sure Bruce feels equally sorry.I didn't know you were a walking ing dictionary. Maybe I should have used a different word, like hurt. Oh wait, that's a ing synonym of harm. It's right there listed next to injury.
Maybe I should have used the word malicious to describe Bowen's acts instead, since he actually didn't hurt anyone, but the intent was there.
Main Entry: mal·ice
Pronunciation: 'ma-l&s
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin malitia, from malus bad
1 : desire to cause pain, injury, or distress to another
What does this have to do with the Kings? We are talking about Bowen kicking Ray in the back, headbutting Vince, and karate kicking Wally. Its easy to see you have nothing more to argue since you've resorted to a King's diss. Peace, I'm done with you.
i like bruce. he plays tough... even kobe said he is the best defender in the league. anyone who thinks he plays dirty is a crying, whinning, sorry excuse for a fan.
"who is raja bell?"..... "who is karim garcia?"
Nothing to do with the Kings. Only to do with Kings' pussy fans who whine about Bruce. Listen to Kobe's post game interview. BB is a physical game, happens. Kobe said elbows get thrown all the time. Live with it or go watch the girl's YMCA league.
Peace, i'm done with you?? Where are you from my weasely little friend? I think you do play in the girl's ymca league.
Hey...no harm, no suspension.
I truly believe the hit was intentional...they were up huge in Game 5 and were coasting for the victory. Raja hits Kobe hard to possibly get Kobe into an altercation that would have them both suspended for game 6.....what a prick. Luckily for Kobe he kept his cool...
Kobe is as cool as a colorado maid...
I've never complained about Bruce, I like his play as I stated earlier in this thread.....
I was merely pointing out to 1parker1 how blind she is to the fact that Bowen can play dirty.
you dirty bas . how dare you call bruce dirty?? I shall kick you in the back and place my foot under your shoe when you land to intentionally sprain your ankle, or maybe get lucky and break that er clean off. Don't you ever talk like that again...
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