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I am not a Javie Fan but that Eddie F. Rush is a prick.
It's not the worst officiated game I have ever seen. Game Four against the Lakers in '03 and game one against the Mavs in '03 were the two games that were far worse, imo.
54-28 prob
I am not a Javie Fan but that Eddie F. Rush is a prick.
It's not the worst officiated game I have ever seen. Game Four against the Lakers in '03 and game one against the Mavs in '03 were the two games that were far worse, imo.
You are aptly named, cuz your brain must be wooden. Now, to anyone watching the game it was obvious the officiating was one sided. Now we love to get on our SPurs when they deserve, and they did last night, but don't come in here and try to say the officiating was even. Announcers, reporters at post game, thousands of fans getting more pissed than i heve EVER seen the arena get are not wrong. We could call out each and every call, but that is unnecessary.
Did it cost the SPurs the game? I doubt it, but it was a contributing factor.
On to game 3.
and again Forrest I am not talking about the foul totals for each team (yes those were pretty much even) most of that had to do with duncan getting the mavs big men in foul trouble, but foul totals has nothing to do with a game being calling unconsitently.
the spurs lack of urgency and/or effort showed intent of a different sort.
Not necessarily. When the refs are calling against you the way they were you CHANGE YOUR GAME, especially defensively cuz you are afraid to breathe on the opponent for fear of another BS call. So, you become LESS aggresive and give more and better opportunities to the opponent changing the game entirely.
Still, SPurs sucked and I am hoping all the crap is done with this game. Spurs still take the Mavs, just a little tougher battle.
I agree with you Forest. Heaven forbid Duncan should get in foul trouble. One of our big men even touches him while taking a shot, the whistle blew. You play in the post, you're going to get contact every time. And it's not like Duncan didn't go to the foul line last night.
The officiating was inconsistent on both ends... but unbiased as well.
Uhh, let's review. The only mav who had reacted before the whistle slipped to the ground, and duncan was already running to get it and ginobli was wisely staying between any mavs and the ball. Duncan would have easily gotten the ball.
And the refs originally called it Mavs ball until the Spurs talked them into a jump ball. It really should have been sideout Spurs with the same shot clock, as it is on just about every other inadvertant whistle no matter who has or doesn't have the ball.
But you're right, it mostly helped the Spurs, so screw it.
You're pathetic dude. First of all you blame a 20 point loss on the refs. The Mavs had more fouls than the Spurs, and Duncan got his share bs calls where no one could breathe in his vicinity. There were bad calls that went both ways.
Also is there any possible way of you making a post without spewing profanity, and making disgusting comments to other posters, even fellow Spurs fans? Then again it should be self explanitory. You're name (Aggies Hoopsfan) pretty much sums it up.
EXACTLY...the fans WAY over-reacted...
Leonard I am atleast man enough to say when the spurs are getting calls to go their way when I am watching games, so you and all Mavs fans should do the same, how can you say the game was called fairly; and if you go by the foul totals that means nothing to whether or not the game was called consistent, the spurs made up alot of those calls at the end of the game in the 4th when it was already out of reach
YOU forget that the defense in the east is much tougher than the defense in the west. And need I remind you of the Pistons record against the tops teams? Need I remind you of the two games the Pistons played against the Spurs? People go on about how easy the Pistons have it. But you don't realize a few facts. All throughout the season, when teams played the Pistons, it was a playoff game for them. A statement game. They had the best record for back-to-backs. Your team sucked on back-to-backs. When you played the Kings, you didn't lose those games because of the Kings being so good, your team sucked for two games. They didn't play good defense. Stop trying to make excuses. I know the Spurs are a great team, and I know what they are capable of. And remember that YOU brought up the Pistons. Not me. IF the Pistons are having an easy ride to the finals, there regular season made up for it.
Spurs fans know that game was one sided, we don't even need to complain about it because it won't happen again.
Mavs - 13 fouls in 2nd half (6 in 4th)
Spurs - 11 fouls in 2nd half (6 in 4th)
The fans over-reacted because the Spurs players were over-reacting to calls even if they were obvious fouls (like Duncan's 3rd foul).
Bad calls, no calls, touch fouls, technicals...all went both ways. Sorry...
I have to disagree. That part of the game was seriously slanted towards the Mavs. Even the announcers at that point were talking how 2 fouls called on the Spurs should have been against the Mavs, and that the Mavs were getting away with several travels and non-called fouls. And this was at a part of the game when the Spurs started playing with energy and aggression and were trying to make a comeback. The fans were not over-reacting. That was an insanely unfair stretch.
But happens. It's part of the game.
I personally over-reacted when I flipped to the game and noticed that both Pop and AJ had already been called for T's, and it was still early. I knew Javie was ref'ing from that and booed the TV immediately.
In my opinion Javie is the worst ref in the game. Ruins just about every game he calls.
the only problem i had with the officiating was the third call on duncan, and that string of fouls on the spurs in the 2nd quarter. i just hate it when the refs bog the game down with touch calls either way. to me at least, some of those fouls called on the spurs killed what tiny bit of momentum they had going. however, they should have played above it and didn't so it doesn't really matter. the mavs did, and won easily because of it.
That 3rd call had to be made, it was clearly a charge, Howard was out of the restricted zone and he was set.
That 3rd call had to be made, it was clearly a charge, Howard was out of the restricted zone and he was set.
That 3rd call had to be made, it was clearly a charge, Howard was out of the restricted zone and he was set.
Sorry, fellow forum members, i am trying desperatly to let this game go, but every time i see crap like this i MUST respond.
Leonard, Leonard, Leonard (*sigh*) it is not the NUMBER OF FOUL CALLED but the number of wrong/bad calls made, on whom and at what point in the game. This game was not even close to being a fairly called game.
that inadvertant whistle....shows intent.
HOW BOUT WE "intent" to make up for all this crap and kick their ass in their home twice!!!!
I was just showing you that your statement of:
"the spurs made up alot of those calls at the end of the game in the 4th when it was already out of reach"
was invalid...
I understand exactly what you're saying...I just disagree that the Spurs got robbed...
There were a lot of weird calls last night -- on both sides.
It seems like every time they made a questionable call against the Spurs, there would be a "make up" call against Dallas on the next possession.
Ok, we've spent enough time talking about the refs. It's time to move on.
I'm having 2003 flashbacks. How did that series turn out?
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