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    Actually he cant openly complain, hence the reason why he is fined, it is in the NBA rule book, "no person affiliated with an NBA team can publicly criticize any NBA official or referree"
    That's an interesting rule the way it is stated because his actual blog for which he was fined does not criticize a specific official or ref - the point is more to improving the overall level of reffing in the league. Those Spurs fans chanting last night would seem to want the same goal.

    Here is what he actually wrote - is this $100k fine worthy?

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    "How to improve NBA Playoff Officiating
    Posted May 7, 2006, 5:30 PM ET

    Note:This was written BEFORE the playoffs started. It wasnt posted till after I had presented this to the league. I stand corrected on the lack of 4 games in a night. There have been. THat doesnt change the validity of the concept. Rather than using the playoffs as an opportunity to promote officials, it should be where only the very best officials work.

    I have also turned off comments because as I feared, they end up being off topic.

    Here is the post:

    Refs miss calls. Its part of the game. Better refs that approach the game objectively miss fewer calls.

    During the regular season new refs will come into the league and as might be expected, there will be ups and downs that come with new officials.

    The playoffs are different. THe playoffs are where teams and the NBA itself earn their money. Its where team profits are made, its where TV ratings are made and when TV ratings are good, the league makes more money.

    In other words, the playoffs are our money product. As with every business, the best people should be on the job with the money products. Thats not the way the NBA does it when it comes to officials.

    In the first round, the NBA reduces the number of officials elgible to officiate games from about 60 to 33 (give or take a couple). The first question is how did they arrive at that number ? I dont know, but I can calculate how many officials are actually needed.

    In the first round, there 4 series in each conference or 8 series in total.

    But the thing about the first round is that the games are spread out. There rarely if ever are 4 games in a single night. ( it hasnt happened since i have been here). The most I have seen is 3 games in a night. 3 games in a night is 9 officials.

    But when you look at the schedule further, you realize that because of time zones and TV needs, you never get more than 2 games in the same time zone. Which means that its not unreasonable to ask officials to work games on back to back nights in the first round of the playoffs. THey can travel to the next assigned game in the same or at worst adjoining time zone. Because of the spread out schedule, its unlikely they would work back to backs more than twice in the first round.

    So in the first round alone, the number of officials that should be assigned could be as few as 9, plus 3 alternates.

    Would the officiating improve if the top 12 officials worked the games instead of the top 33 or so. There is absolutely no question about it.

    Would it strain the officials more to possibly work a back to back ? Yes. So pay them a bigger bonus for being selected for the playoffs. Its certainly no more a strain on the officals than it is the players and we have no problem asking players to work back to back.

    The numbers get better for the 2nd round. 4 series. 2 games in a day. Sometimes 1 game in a day. Thats 6 officials plus alternates. If the league was absolutely convinced we have 12 finals quality officials, then use 12

    But the NBA has a huge problem. It doesnt view the playoffs as a place where the very best of the best of officials go to work. It views the playoffs as part of a reward system for officials. YOu get promoted to the playoffs. Its not unusual to see an official work a single playoff game in the first round . In fact, if the info i have is correct, there are officials who havent even been promoted to full time crew cheif who get playoff assignments. How crazy is that ?

    Thats also a huge, huge, huge business mistake. The playoffs are our most important, most visible product. They should never be used as a stepping stone for promotion.

    Instead, the NBA should rank its officials, seed them if you will. Top 12 get playoff assignments. Thats it. If an official does a great job and rises to the top 12, he or she gets the reward. If not, not.

    Giving less qualified officials an opportunity to officiate playoff games as a reward gives the official a nice attaboy, but it risks the quality of our product.

    It makes absolutely no sense to do it the way it is currently done. If the league wants the best officiating in every game, only use the best officials. Anything less cheats us all."

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    I'm pointing out that the Mavs owner has made himself visible and has become a celebrity of sorts. Most fans would rather have their owner show their passion for the team than worry about how much money they're making. It's good to have him on the sidelines, rooting for the team.

    In the years since Cuban has owned the team, how much profit has he made from the Mavericks? It's a trick question.
    See, now we clearly delineate our differences.

    Important to Mav fans:
    -visible celebrity owner
    -owner on sidelines rooting for team
    -Ashlee's latest CD
    -good wax job on the Tahoe

    Important to Spur fans:

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    ok gingko..... you may be right. but POP never complains about the refs in public..... AVERY and CUBAN are really good at complaining to the public
    Cuban may be a whiner but AJ isn't.

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    mav fans are immature when it comes to the BIG BOY rounds of the playoffs..... mav fans come on here thinking they have won the series..... big mistake. Spurs are pissed and they will be ready come saturday

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    Avery already whined to the refs in this series CosmicCowboy..... the BOWEN "BEAR HUG" defense

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    I'm pointing out that the Mavs owner has made himself visible and has become a celebrity of sorts.
    He and Paris Hilton have a lot in common.

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    He and Paris Hilton have a lot in common.
    Don't tell me Cuban actually made a tape?

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    Spurs are pissed and they will be ready come saturday
    And you would know this how?

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    give me a break. That wasn't a whine...some of you are going way too far on that one...it was a descriptive phrase about stifling defense...if he had said that Bowen put a "lock down" defense on Dirk you guys would have said he was whining that Bruce used handcuffs...

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    And you would know this how?
    i would assume they weren't happy about losing.

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    why do you guys talk bad about cuban for talking bad about the refs and complaining but you guys comnplain about them all the time. and during the game the spurs whine about every freaking call almost as bad as the pistons. notice i said almost.
    Cuz Cuban is an easy target and it appears a lot of these Spur fans need to point fingers at everyone except their own team after a loss.

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    Spurs very rarely ever have two bad games in a row..... they will come out strong like they always do after a loss.

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    give me a break. That wasn't a whine...some of you are going way too far on that one...it was a descriptive phrase about stifling defense...if he had said that Bowen put a "lock down" defense on Dirk you guys would have said he was whining that Bruce used handcuffs...
    I don't think it's the "bear hug" comment exactly that people consider whining. It's the follow up sarcasm of (paraphrasing) "it's the new rule in the NBA, we'll have to find a way to defend it" while rolling his eyes.

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    Don't tell me Cuban actually made a tape?

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    Don't tell me Cuban actually made a tape?
    *shudders at the thought*


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    mav fans are immature when it comes to the BIG BOY rounds of the playoffs..... mav fans come on here thinking they have won the series..... big mistake. Spurs are pissed and they will be ready come saturday
    When did anybody say we won the series?

    I must have missed it. Kindly point me to where such a claim was made. All I see is people saying that the Mavericks ran the defending champions out of their own gym last night to the tune of 22 points....

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    When did anybody say we won the series?

    I must have missed it. Kindly point me to where such a claim was made. All I see is people saying that the Mavericks ran the defending champions out of their own gym last night to the tune of 22 points....
    What I see is Mav Fan acting like they won a championship. Not surprising.

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    I think most mavs fans really appreciate Mark's passion. His methods are often not what we would expect, but we are encouraged that his goals are to 1) Win an NBA championship & 2) Make the NBA product better. Lifetime Mavs fans point of comparison was years of disinterested ownership and decades of losing. Putting up with Mark's quirks is better than what we used to have to put up with.
    He has toned it down, but rightfully so, his reputation follows him. If he had no history, there is no way his blog gets a $100k fine.

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    give me a break. That wasn't a whine...some of you are going way too far on that one...it was a descriptive phrase about stifling defense...if he had said that Bowen put a "lock down" defense on Dirk you guys would have said he was whining that Bruce used handcuffs...
    You actually bought that as a shot at his own team? He was ing, he's the enemy, Gino should don the #6 from here on out.

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    What I see is Mav Fan acting like they won a championship. Not surprising.
    Really? Where?

    What I see is Spur Fan crying like a and avoiding what really did their team in last night.

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    If you consider the bear hug defense as whining, you are looking way to hard.

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    Really? Where?

    What I see is Spur Fan crying like a and avoiding what really did their team in last night.
    I don't see that. I don't think anyone actually thinks the Spurs lost because of the officiating. A lot of the calls sucked (on both sides) but the Spurs lost because Tim Duncan didn't get any help and the Mavs capitalized on the Spurs turnovers and mistakes. The Spurs got outplayed. That's it.

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    If you consider the bear hug defense as whining, you are looking way to hard.
    Then what was it mr. bulls fan

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    Really? Where?

    What I see is Spur Fan crying like a and avoiding what really did their team in last night.
    You, for starters. It's not surprising. It's why you run to this forum and attempt to make up for your ty life by spamming this forum with your tripe.

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    What is this myth that AJ doesn't whine. I've seen him on ESPN, NBA TV whining his ass off. You don't remember his ing crusade about how Dirk was getting abused and never getting the calls? That wasn't his only fest either. Some's love for AJ has made them go blind.
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