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    "remember the elimination playoff games where Finley would go 1-17"

    ... as recently as Game7 vs Suns, @AAA, last year.
    Michael was huge in earlier games, but did essentially nothing in Game7, so Mavs lost by one possession and went fishing.

    He's reversing his career tendency to show lower stats in playoffs vs season.
    He's been impressive and game-changing as a playoff Spur.

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    Scola, Beno, Ginobili. T-Wolves sign and trade Garnett who, as the new guy on the team, is contractually obligated to be Duncan's ball .

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    Scola+beno+nazr = Deng, that's ok ... but have you seen Chandler? that guy only produce shadows
    I'd love to get Deng but i wonder if the bulls have any interest in scola, as much as i'd like to see him in a spurs uni if we have a chance to get deng who the bulls might be willing to trade with nocioni playing so well i'd say go for it. He'd be an awesome pick up if something like that happens.

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    Scola, Beno, Ginobili. T-Wolves sign and trade Garnett who, as the new guy on the team, is contractually obligated to be Duncan's ball .
    no let him be Rasho's ball !

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    Reggie Evans!, what are you crazy! We don't need a chorizo grabber on our team!?
    I don't mind to have a chorizo grabber on the team as long as he grabs 8-10 rebounds a game and knock down D Harris or Jet or Nash with hard fouls. Afterall, he will just be fined for grabbing family jewels, not throwing punches . Call me crazy if you like.


    BTW I don't mean to use all MLE on RE. For the case of Chris Wilcox, I would or maybe even more.

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    Scola is different from Nazr, Rasho and Oberto in the sense that he would give Dirk problems in the other end. Dirk could get early into foul trouble trying to guard Luis.
    Sorry but Dirk is the golden child of the NBA. Luis isn't not matter how good he is.

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    http://www.24sec.net/article.asp?index=3300

    "Turkish international center Keya Peker is the new Tau Vitoria objective to reinforce paint game. Baskonia knows that Luis Scola wants to join San Antonio Spurs next year and is very difficult to keep Argentinean star in Vitoria."

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    Manu came for the LLE. I think Robertas would come for the same since we have his rights and we are his way into the NBA- unlike Oberto.
    that would be a bad idea. LLEs are limited to 2 year deals. The Spurs were lucky that they had the cap space to re-sign Ginobili. And considering how even mediocre centers command full MLEs nowadays I wouldn't want to not have Bird rights with Javtokas.

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    Sign scola, javtokas with excepions, and, if possible and worth of that, Sinikidze (long three?)....then, look for what's available for...the back court!
    Trade assets ? we have bigs to sell!!!
    However, I can't see nothing so much better than what we have now... (only a very good back up PG - claxton ? Jackson ? - or a real star in needing of the first or more rings - Garnett ? Bryant ? - could be worth of a look)!
    Just in case we wanna go for young...we could see if the last minute trade of this year is still available...but I have to say I really like barry and, till now, he's showing something...!

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    It looks like one of Scola/Javtokas will be here, which IMO fills a nice need, with a player who has a chance to be a long-term fixture.

    Sanikidze will be playing summer ball, which leads me to believe they will be giving him a look, maybe he makes the end of the bench and can develop into Bowen's replacement.

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    isnt peker the center the Spurs tried out in Long beach a couple years ago and he stunk?

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    I agree that with Scola's likely contract demands, it's unlikely that he'll come to the Spurs. But now that he is signable, he at least has trade value.

    My question is, given that he's never played in the NBA, how much are his rights worth in the trade market? Is he worth Luol Deng, or is he worth Calvin Booth?

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    that would be a bad idea. LLEs are limited to 2 year deals. The Spurs were lucky that they had the cap space to re-sign Ginobili. And considering how even mediocre centers command full MLEs nowadays I wouldn't want to not have Bird rights with Javtokas.
    I realize that- but it is a way to sign Luis, Robertas, AND Viktor.

    Think about the option- convert Nazr and Sean (who make a combined $6.6M and whose contracts are up) into those three guys-- 2 bigs and a long 3. And imagine those people who would just die- 3 more international players on the Spurs.

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    that would be a bad idea. LLEs are limited to 2 year deals. The Spurs were lucky that they had the cap space to re-sign Ginobili. And considering how even mediocre centers command full MLEs nowadays I wouldn't want to not have Bird rights with Javtokas.
    That was true with the old CBA.
    With the new CBA, there are a new rule to avoid to lose players with less than 3 years of nba experience called the Gilbert Arenas rules.

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    I don't think too we should trade Scola. He won't ask a full MLE deal but likely a deal starting at $3M and Scola for $3M isn't at all deal : this guy is a good player and can help us.

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    I agree with you, Kori, although this recent match up with the Mavs has me wondering. If Pop doesn't think Rasho and Nazr are athletic enough to match up with the Mavs, then Scola could become important to keep, esp as a replacement for Horry once he retires.

    Javtokas should be here next year, and if he can remain in good health, he could ease some of the gaping hole for a coveted "long 3" we have been needng...

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    I agree with you, Kori, although this recent match up with the Mavs has me wondering. If Pop doesn't think Rasho and Nazr are athletic enough to match up with the Mavs, then Scola could become important to keep, esp as a replacement for Horry once he retires.

    Javtokas should be here next year, and if he can remain in good health, he could ease some of the gaping hole for a coveted "long 3" we have been needng...
    Actually, Supergirl, Javtokas plays in the pivot and not the wing. He's a center at Rytas.

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    In my opinion, I think it's time for Duncan to move into the starting center position, while playing PF when Rasho is in the game. Bring Scola over, and start him at PF, with Horry backing him up. Compared to what we have now, that can easily become a great 4-5 combo, capable of scoring more than our current combos can.

    I also think moving Duncan to center is a good idea because the most significant challengers in the west have PF that Duncan can't defend out on the floor (Dirk, Amare). There isn't a center that he can't defend, and that can defend him. Much better matchup...but I guess that all depends on what kind of defender Scola is...maybe he can't keep up with them either. Anyway, we need an athletic big man to sic on these guys. Should be an interesting summer.

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    Timmy played 5 this year more than any other year...but then again, basketball in general has moved more to smaller lineups. Many college teams in the US have gone smaller, with 3 guard lineups.

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    scola should come here for 3mill and javtokas 2mill and sanikidz LLE or minimum contract, damn it they are playin in texas income tax free, they can just be freeloaders at sumones house, cough* malik rose restraunt*

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    Actually, Supergirl, Javtokas plays in the pivot and not the wing. He's a center at Rytas.
    Isn't he a little short, like 6'10" or 6'8"?

    I've always gotten the impression he would play more of a PF or SF role in the NBA. Same with Scola. It seems like bringing both would be overkill, and I'm not familiar with their games enough to know which one meets our needs more.

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    I believe Javtokas is 6'10". He would play PF and Center in the NBA.

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    Isn't he a little short, like 6'10" or 6'8"?

    I've always gotten the impression he would play more of a PF or SF role in the NBA. Same with Scola. It seems like bringing both would be overkill, and I'm not familiar with their games enough to know which one meets our needs more.
    Javtokas is 6'10, long and a great shotblocker with exceptional leaping ability. He's been cast as a C since the day the Spurs drafted him. Defensively he is a complete C(at least in Europe he is), and offensively, he doesn't have the offensive game to play anything but C.

    Scola likewise is locked into the PF position. He doesn't have the range to play SF or the size to play C.

    Both of these guys are locked into their NBA positions...the real question is how well their games will translate to the NBA at those positions.

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    I hope they keep Scola, because we need a legitimate low post scorer besides Duncan and it seems Scola can be that person.

    Jav physically looks great. If he is as athletic as he looks he will be huge for us. I would be interesting to see if indeed he does come over next yr and see him guard Dirk and Amare.

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    Just to rehash the old bio on Sanikidze form 2004 nbadraft.net


    Viktor Sanikidze
    Birthdate: 4/1/86
    NBA Position: Small Forward
    Ht: 6-9
    Wt: 200
    Int Team: JDA Dijon
    Hometown: Tbilisi, Georgia

    Strenghts: Has a bad shooting technique but good touch and accuracy ... Great athleticisim, long limbs: arms and legs ... An excellent rebounder ... A tough player ... Caoachable, willing to learn the game ... Great energy, enthusiastic type of guy, very positive, active ... A relentless worker ...

    Weaknesses: Inexperience, Needs strength, lack of weight ... Inexperience at a high level, he hasn't played many minutes with seniors yet, ballhandling to work on ... Must develop his understanding of the game ...

    Notes: The biggest sleeper in the draft. Worthy of first round consideration. He played for Globe Tech Junior college in New York for one season and returned to Europe, therefore by rule he is automatically entered into the 2004 draft. Given a few years in Europe, he definitely would have been a first round pick.


    He's only 20 and may be still a ways away or he may not amount to anything. My guess is that he's been more than rehabbing this year. Maybe working on strength and shot.

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