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    weak dude. Seriously.

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    Damn would you stupid Mavs fans forget the stupid Barkley gambling , y'all's conspiracy theories are hypocritical and just damn silly.
    You mean like the one where Stern and the entire NBA are against the Spurs so they're intentionally having the refs call the games ONLY in the favor of the Mavs? Like that theory?

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    I guess you also missed Duncan not answering any questions in the post game confernece and leaving in about 45 secs.!
    It will be interesting to see if Stern adds insult to injury today and fines Tim for not having his shirt tail tucked in.

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    You mean like the one where Stern and the entire NBA are against the Spurs so they're intentionally having the refs call the games ONLY in the favor of the Mavs? Like that theory?
    Yes, like that theory, re . That's my whole point. Y'all come in here deploring the some (a small minority not including myself) that believe these games are rigged. And then you bust out this Barkley conspiracy gambling . It's stupid. Clean up your logic before you talk to me. We've addressed all this stuff earlier in the thread if you care to read.

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    Kelly Dwyer of SI.com:

    One thing worth noting is the fact that Erick Dampier has gotten away with pushing Tim Duncan out of the lane all series long. He leans into him while the guards drive, easing him out of defensive position with a bent forearm. Technically, Dampier can do what he's doing, because he's allowed to feign boxing out, or pretend to struggle for position when Duncan "fronts" (in quotation marks, because we know Tim has no interest in fronting Dampier in the post) him in the paint. Still, if the refs decide to change the way they call the play, the Mavs could find dashing toward the rim a little tougher during the next game or three.

    This leads into the nasty subtext of the series, the one that suggests the Mavs have only accrued a 3-1 lead because of a series of calls that have gone in their favor. As usual, there were some real bum trips tonight, but Tim Duncan had a potentially game-winning jump hook to hit from eight feet as the final seconds ticked away in regulation, and Spurs fans can't ask for more than that.

    It stinks horribly that Manu Ginobili (26 points in 26 minutes) had to foul out with 2:28 left in the game, especially on a dodgy call (Jason Terry leaned into Ginobili while shooting an 18 footer). And yet, it's Manu's stinkin' fault for trying to block a Jason Terry 3-pointer in the first place. If Ginobili closes out properly just seconds before, Terry isn't able to pump fake and drive his way to the free-throw line. Also, I can't recall seeing two delay of game penalties called in one game in years. To have two separate, if understandable, bouts of petulance come from the Spurs (both Ginobili and Brent Barry keeping the ball from the refs after horrible calls) was even more shocking. Bad refs or not, the Spurs should have risen above.

    Yes, the Spurs should rise above all that crap. Let's try something new: let the MAVS try to rise above all that crap in the remaining three games and see how well they do.

    One thing worth noting is the fact that Erick Dampier has gotten away with pushing Tim Duncan out of the lane all series long. He leans into him while the guards drive, easing him out of defensive position with a bent forearm. Technically, Dampier can do what he's doing, because he's allowed to feign boxing out, or pretend to struggle for position when Duncan "fronts" (in quotation marks, because we know Tim has no interest in fronting Dampier in the post) him in the paint. Still, if the refs decide to change the way they call the play, the Mavs could find dashing toward the rim a little tougher during the next game or three.

    This leads into the nasty subtext of the series, the one that suggests the Mavs have only accrued a 3-1 lead because of a series of calls that have gone in their favor. As usual, there were some real bum trips tonight, but Tim Duncan had a potentially game-winning jump hook to hit from eight feet as the final seconds ticked away in regulation, and Spurs fans can't ask for more than that.

    It stinks horribly that Manu Ginobili (26 points in 26 minutes) had to foul out with 2:28 left in the game, especially on a dodgy call (Jason Terry leaned into Ginobili while shooting an 18 footer). And yet, it's Manu's stinkin' fault for trying to block a Jason Terry 3-pointer in the first place. If Ginobili closes out properly just seconds before, Terry isn't able to pump fake and drive his way to the free-throw line. Also, I can't recall seeing two delay of game penalties called in one game in years. To have two separate, if understandable, bouts of petulance come from the Spurs (both Ginobili and Brent Barry keeping the ball from the refs after horrible calls) was even more shocking. Bad refs or not, the Spurs should have risen above.
    Look I can selectively quote things too

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    weak dude. Seriously.
    Yeah, the language call out on the internet, is about as bad as correcting spelling

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    Especially when all you say is "damn"...oooooh, soooo dirty.

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    Yes, like that theory, re . That's my whole point. Y'all come in here deploring the some (a small minority not including myself) that believe these games are rigged. And then you bust out this Barkley conspiracy gambling . It's stupid. Clean up your logic before you talk to me. We've addressed all this stuff earlier in the thread if you care to read.
    Where did I say anything about Barkley gambling? That was ONE person that said that unlike the dozens that have been touting the theory I proposed.

    "Clean up your logic before you talk to me". And just who the are you, exactly?

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    Someone on the Spurs needs to get fined. Now!

    Say something. Stop with the hints, just flat out say it, This could cost us our entire season on bs calls.

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    Someone on the Spurs needs to get fined. Now!

    Say something. Stop with the hints, just flat out say it, This could cost us our entire season on bs calls.

    They won't say anything to the media, it's called class.

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    They won't say anything to the media, it's called class.
    You're right. Duncan's crybaby 5-word postgame presser just reeked of class. Bowen yelling directly at the commissioner is nothing but class. Pop dropping little lines about the officials after the past 3 games is all class.

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    Where did I say anything about Barkley gambling? That was ONE person that said that unlike the dozens that have been touting the theory I proposed.

    "Clean up your logic before you talk to me". And just who the are you, exactly?
    The whole point was that you brought up the Spurs fans' conspiracy against the refs. The point is that it's just as stupid as Mavs Fans' (postulated now by at least mFFL and DubMcDub...that's more than 1, and they are in several different threads now) fantasies about Barkley. I never said you believed that Barkley gambles on the Spurs, your comment just was the point I was making about how silly all these theories are. And the clean up your logic thing was directed at mFFL...the parallelism makes the target kinda obvious.

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    You're right. Duncan's crybaby 5-word postgame presser just reeked of class. Bowen yelling directly at the commissioner is nothing but class. Pop dropping little lines about the officials after the past 3 games is all class.
    link?

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    You're right. Duncan's crybaby 5-word postgame presser just reeked of class. Bowen yelling directly at the commissioner is nothing but class. Pop dropping little lines about the officials after the past 3 games is all class.
    I saw Pops, and I say he was calling out the team for missed FTs and two bad inbounds plays.

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    They won't say anything to the media, it's called class.
    So whining all game long on the court, taking the ball and running away from the refs after a call, hints being dropped left and right by players and coaches, Timmy "can't hit a game winner" Duncans crybaby press conference, Bowen whining to Stern in the crowd, this is class?

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    So whining all game long on the court, taking the ball and running away from the refs after a call, hints being dropped left and right by players and coaches, Timmy "can't hit a game winner" Duncans crybaby press conference, Bowen whining to Stern in the crowd, this is class?
    More class than Cuban's Avery's, Mav fans.

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    Do you not follow your own team? Everyone here knows what I'm talking about.

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    Do you not follow your own team? Everyone here knows what I'm talking about.
    Not everyone watches the post game.

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    I'll give you a brief recap then -

    After the Game 4 loss, Duncan sits in on the usual postgame presser. He utters short, pissy answers. Something totaling 8-10 words. Parker and Ginobili were "unavailable". Now, before you go off and say that "they don't have to speak" to the media. In the 100 or so games that have been played this season, how many times were they magically not available or particularly snippy when speaking to the media?

    DURING the game when objecting a call, Bruce Bowen looks in Commissioner David Stern's way and yells something about the "terrible" officiating. This isn't a coach or some ref or a statkeeper, this is the Commissioner of the entire NBA. You don't lose your cool and do that during a game.

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    It's funny to me how I have not heard one Dallas fan say that they indeed have been the beneficiaries of some tough calls against the Spurs.

    I think Spurs fans are just incredibly spoiled. I am not trying to be rude.. that's just the reality. I think the Mavs always got the extreme short end of the stick simply because Nellie was "unconventional". Refs didn't respect the game the Mavs or dirk played. Now they finally do a little bit.. and the Spurs fans like yourself can't comprehend it , so they think the officals are against them. While I do think the Mavs have gotten the benefit of the doubt on a couple plays at the ends of games... i think these are plays the Spurs get all the time.. the odd thing is that the Mavs are now stating to get a couple. But I still think over-all the officiating is incredibly biased towards the Spurs. The refs have kept the Spurs in the series. If you compare the calls Duncan gets on Damp and Diop and then compare that to the way the Spurs are defending Dirk.. it's a total joke. Duncan gets every single call his way. While Dirk gets mugged half the time without a call.
    You never played defense before, that's why the Mavs couldn't get over the hump. Still the best pickup in the off-season, though..... Bavetta.

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    You never played defense before, that's why the Mavs couldn't get over the hump. Still the best pickup in the off-season, though..... Bavetta.

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    I guess you also missed the reporters interviewing Bowen after the game and asking him about that foul. He said that guys should be shooting in such big games and not be getting sent to the line.

    Good job, Bruce! Thank you!

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    I like how Mavs fans attack the messenger, cause there's no way they can attack the message. That was a ridiculous call at the end of a playoff game, and they don't make that anywhere else in the league. That just doesn't happen.

    And apparently Duncan isn't allowed to be upset that the refs just got finished stealing two games from him and his team.

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    Barkley is completely biased. He's a spurs fan.

    I thought he was a Suns fan that appreciated Spurs basketball. Anyway, the main thing I've heard him say (several times) is that whoever took Game 4 would take the championship.

    That sounds pretty unbiased to me.

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    I like how Mavs fans attack the messenger, cause there's no way they can attack the message. That was a ridiculous call at the end of a playoff game, and they don't make that anywhere else in the league. That just doesn't happen.

    And apparently Duncan isn't allowed to be upset that the refs just got finished stealing two games from him and his team.
    We can attack it just fine. Whether or not you guys want to listen is a different story.

    Yea, you can sit here all day and say "oh bubub that foul shouldn't be called" but if Diop had slapped Duncans arm on his final shot and made him lose control of the ball you'd be whining about there being no call. Slapping someone on the arm and making them lose control of the ball = a foul. I learned this in ing elementary school P.E. basketball

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