Parker: Pass The ing Ball

[jcrod]

If you are going to criticize Parker, you can knock his decision-making or even his team defense awareness off the ball, but he has to shoot this much. The Mavs are forcing it.

[timvp]

You think he played a flawless game? He made mistakes. He took a couple shots late in the third out of rhythm. He didn't feed Duncan a couple times he should have. He didn't push it up the court fast enough for the coach's liking a couple times.

Defensively, he made a horrible rotation and gave up a layup in the fourth. He was also late coming on a double down the stretch.

Parker isn't going to be a perfect point guard at his age. He's going to make mistakes. But what I'm saying in this thread is that the fans saying he's shooting too much are off base. They don't understand what the Mavs are doing defensively.

[admiral50]

I agree wit cheguevara!

[jcrod]

You think he played a flawless game? He made mistakes. He took a couple shots late in the third out of rhythm. He didn't feed Duncan a couple times he should have. He didn't push it up the court fast enough for the coach's liking a couple times.

Defensively, he made a horrible rotation and gave up a layup in the fourth. He was also late coming on a double down the stretch.

Parker isn't going to be a perfect point guard at his age. He's going to make mistakes. But what I'm saying in this thread is that the fans saying he's shooting too much are off base. They don't understand what the Mavs are doing defensively.

Show me where I said he was perfect. If you read the thread, I said he wasn't. But to say he made mistake way and beyond what anybody else did is stupid.

Sure he made defense mistakes, especially the one where he left Devin Harris under the basket alone sticks out.

But to say he's the problem is moronic, not saying you did but that's what this whole thread is based on.

[Gerryatrics]

He should have fed the ball to Duncan exclusively when KVH was in the game. I was almost screaming at the TV when he passed up Duncan to force a bad layup in traffic. Duncan could have gone like 15-15 instead of 8-8 thanks to KVH's presence.

I don't see how dribbling 15 seconds off the clock and taking a 15 foot jumper is forced on Tony, but Barry, Horry, or Van Exel can't do the same. If we are settling for that, at least let the bench players take poor shots to, you know, get them involved. If TP needs 25 shots, have him take a teardrop floater every time he sees daylight.

And I'm forced once again to the conclusion that you're all idiots.

[Melmart1]

And I'm forced once again to the conclusion that you're all idiots.

Dude, it was the Steelers that did it. Not the Spurs. Time to let go.

[timvp]

Dude, it was the Steelers that did it. Not the Spurs. Time to let go.

Low blow.

[jcrod]

He should have fed the ball to Duncan exclusively when KVH was in the game. I was almost screaming at the TV when he passed up Duncan to force a bad layup in traffic. Duncan could have gone like 15-15 instead of 8-8 thanks to KVH's presence.

I don't see how dribbling 15 seconds off the clock and taking a 15 foot jumper is forced on Tony, but Barry, Horry, or Van Exel can't do the same. If we are settling for that, at least let the bench players take poor shots to, you know, get them involved. If TP needs 25 shots, have him take a teardrop floater every time he sees daylight.

And I'm forced once again to the conclusion that you're all idiots.

Yeah getting Van Horn 5 fouls in 3 minutes shows we weren't feeding Duncan enough!!!!

[Gerryatrics]

Funny, I think if the officiating was brought up now there would be a of lot less people saying Seahawks fans are just whining because they lost and the refs didn't have anything to do with the outcome. I would maybe rub that in but I'm hitched to the Spurs wagon too.

[jcrod]

Yeah getting Van Horn 5 fouls in 3 minutes shows we weren't feeding Duncan enough!!!!

With that said, I think we should've given Duncan more touches. But this also falls on TD passing the ball out instead of taking it to the hole. Especially when he passed it to TP when he fumbled the ball.

[jcrod]

Funny, I think if the officiating was brought up now there would be a of lot less people saying Seahawks fans are just whining because they lost and the refs didn't have anything to do with the outcome. I would maybe rub that in but I'm hitched to the Spurs wagon too.

Hey, I think the Seahawks got JOBBED BIG TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm a Cowboy fan. I was screaming at the last minutes when every call was going for the steelers.

[polandprzem]

What bothers me the most in TP's game?

The courtvision. And you can't learn that stuff.

[notoveryet7]

c'mon guys when will you finally give TP credit..he's earned it...leading scorer for the team....the team needs to ge themselves involved when they have the opportunity... and trust me if pop wanted tony to pass more...Tony would pass more...just relax... the Spurs know what there doing...TP is not losing games for us..remember that!

[George Gervin's Afro]

Tony parker is leading me to an early grave. His play early in the game was phenomenal but he is killing me late in the games. We were up by 10 points with the ball with about 2:30 minutes left in the 3rd qtr and my only thought was Tony don't waste these possessions.. What does he do? He goes down drives forces up a layup that does not get to the rim Dallas scores. Next trip down the court a couple of passes parker missess an 18ft jump shot without TD touching the ball and Dallas comes back and scores. The 3rd possession? Guess what Tony drives the lane gets caught in the air which leads to Dirk's 3 pointer and bingo a 3 point game going into the 4th qtr. Not one of these three possessions did TD touch the ball... I have been hard on parker all season and it is these instances where his decision making kills me... I know he played great but I can count at least 7 possessions in the last 2 games where mental mistakes has almost ended our season. His 4 travels in game 4 and these 3 bad possessions.. Pop needs to remind him to be agressive but to make better decisions.. Enough ranting about TP he played great for 2 3/4 qtrs... We have life..

[NoMoneyDown]

There was one play in the 4Q where Parker got the ball and as soon as I saw him catch, I told my wife "watch him drive to the basket and try to score, but flub it all up". Sure enough, that's what happened. He needs to understand that the odds are against him scoring like that the majority of the time and kick it out. I counted something like 4 times that he did that in the 2H alone.

[WalterBenitez]

dont worry once 4th quarter rolls around he'll turn into the invisble man

Ironic or sarcastic?

[WalterBenitez]

c'mon guys when will you finally give TP credit..he's earned it...leading scorer for the team....the team needs to ge themselves involved when they have the opportunity... and trust me if pop wanted tony to pass more...Tony would pass more...just relax... the Spurs know what there doing...TP is not losing games for us..remember that!

Perfect, the kid doesn't get the respect he deserves ... he is 24 ... but I have my concern on his style ... shoot first later pass, I think that's ok because he is becoming dangerous, sorry DANGEROUS ... but a team needs that PG involves more teammates.

I think he only needs to manage his skills, not trying to be THE GUY, ... when he starts to act like a manager, distributor ... believe me you'll forget Nash and Kidd.

[Dartherus]

I know Parker scores a lot, but hey, scoring a lot is euql to playing the best ofr the team? (BTW, Parker scored 27 tonight, but his Effciency was 14, less than Manu's, for instance, who only cores 18).

Now look at the 2 posts below:

If fans notice so easily, and more important are able to PREDICT so easily Parker's behavior on such parts of the game...? Can you imagine what Dallas coaching staff can predict?

I sincerely ask you Spurs fans....What does it says about Spurs offense that the Spurs point guard, despite being so quick and have great dribbling, seems so unidimensional and predictable?

Tony parker is leading me to an early grave. His play early in the game was phenomenal but he is killing me late in the games. We were up by 10 points with the ball with about 2:30 minutes left in the 3rd qtr and my only thought was Tony don't waste these possessions.. What does he do? He goes down drives forces up a layup that does not get to the rim Dallas scores. Next trip down the court a couple of passes parker missess an 18ft jump shot without TD touching the ball and Dallas comes back and scores. The 3rd possession? Guess what Tony drives the lane gets caught in the air which leads to Dirk's 3 pointer and bingo a 3 point game going into the 4th qtr. Not one of these three possessions did TD touch the ball... I have been hard on parker all season and it is these instances where his decision making kills me... I know he played great but I can count at least 7 possessions in the last 2 games where mental mistakes has almost ended our season. His 4 travels in game 4 and these 3 bad possessions.. Pop needs to remind him to be agressive but to make better decisions.. Enough ranting about TP he played great for 2 3/4 qtrs... We have life..

There was one play in the 4Q where Parker got the ball and as soon as I saw him catch, I told my wife "watch him drive to the basket and try to score, but flub it all up". Sure enough, that's what happened. He needs to understand that the odds are against him scoring like that the majority of the time and kick it out. I counted something like 4 times that he did that in the 2H alone.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I know Parker scores a lot, but hey, scoring a lot is euql to playing the best ofr the team? (BTW, Parker scored 27 tonight, but his Effciency was 14, less than Manu's, for instance, who only cores 18).

Now look at the 2 posts below:

If fans notice so easily, and more important are able to PREDICT so easily Parker's behavior on such parts of the game...? Can you imagine what Dallas coaching staff can predict?

I sincerely ask you Spurs fans....What does it says about Spurs offense that the Spurs point guard, despite being so quick and have great dribbling, seems so unidimensional and predictable?

I realize Tony is a key part of the team's scheme we need his offense..and some of us get carried away with expecting MORE maybe too much from him and forget the good he brings

...but yeah, sometimes Tony's game is a bit one-dimensional at times--that's when the defenses start to read his decisions....that's why I want him to cut some of Pop's advice, or at least stop following it to a T...24 Shots taken tonight???? Almost 25 Don't be so goddamn Literal TONY!...maybe if he had taken 21 shots --3 of those he actually chose to defer to Tim or Manu or Finley would have given us a cushion for once??? right??

[nkdlunch]

Ppl gonna attack Tp and ppl gonna defend him. What's new??????

The solution is somewhere inthe middle..... TP needs to involve his teammates a little more, that's what most ppl are asking, that's all! They are not slamming TP.

U TP lovers are too sensitive.

u're more sensitive than Manu lovers

[tomati 9]

I agree wit cheguevara!

Good for you.

Tell me something ! Spurs won or lose ?
Ah yes the won but you're right, tony parker takes 24 shots, it's horrible.

You're so idiots

[nkdlunch]

^ as I was saying

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

^ as I was saying

... you forgot to mention they're also deaf...

or in this case...blind.

[1Parker1]

Didn't we win Game 5???

Yes, there were several occasions yesterday where Parker messed up, when he should have passed the ball, when he should have pushed the ball up tempo, when his defense was suspect. Nonetheless, he DID manage to score 27 points on a decent shooting percentage. People are failing to credit Mavs transition defense and 3 point defense when discussing Parker's assists totals. You look at the Kings series, you look at the entire Spurs 2006 season, you'll see that Parker penetrating and drawing the defense in and kicking the ball out to perimeter 3 point shooters like Finley, Barry, Manu has been a large part of our game plan and why we won the first round and 63 games. How many 3 point shots did the Spurs make this series? Heck, how many open looks are the Mavs given the Spurs perimeter players?

Yesterday, Horry, NVE, Bowen (on offense who didn't take a single shot) and Barry were non-existent. Do people realize that Finley, Manu, Duncan, and Parker scored all but 5 of the Spurs points??! That's crazy.

And I dare one of you a-holes to call me a Parker homer. If you read and come to chat you know that I am actually one of Parker's biggest critics when he's messing up. But to constantly start threads that say "Parker is a ball-hog" "Parker is disappearing in the playoffs" "Parker never passes to Manu" etc. just makes you sound like you don't know anything about basketball.

[1Parker1]

PS. Every single freaking player on the Spurs roster, outside of Tim Duncan, has ed up more than once in this series. Why does everyone call out Parker?