You dare to compare Suns of 2005 with Mavs of 2006 and call me arrogant?
Mavs of 06 are not run&gun Suns, they play well on both ends. Since Spurs were never known as offensive team in scoring aginst Mavs much harder than aginst no-D Suns.
Did you comprehend my post, or read what you wanted to? I did NOT compare the two teams. I simply used last year's Suns series as proof that the Spurs adjusting how they play for a team is NOTHING NEW. So why are people ing abou them doing it in this series? If the Spurs dont play small ball, they get killed this series. Period.
Small ball is here to stay for the Spurs in this series. We can all forget about Rasho and what he would bring to a game because barring some huge unforseen cir stances, we're not gonig to see him. I'm done waiting for him because it just is not going to happen.
But I think this is a re ed thread. You don't believe? Well yippie ing doo da. No one can predict the future so no one knows what the outcome of the next game is going to be. However, making a thread saying you don't believe then saying numerous times in the thread that you feel they have a chance. That doesn't really reconcile with me, but whatever. You either believe they have a chance or you believe they will lose but I don't really think you can believe both.
In games 3 and 4, I saw the Spurs come within single possesions of victory where there were several factors against them. In this series I've seen Tim Duncan play with more desire than I've seen in years if EVER. I've seen the Spurs fail to step up and make plays at the end of games which caused them to lose.
It is going to be a close game. We're going to be in it. And someone on this team is going to have a chance to win the game. Whether or not someone is going to step up and complete that challenge, I coudln't tell you.
What I can tell you is this. I have faith in them because they've been there before. If Manu missed 99 game winning shots in a row, I'd go back to him for #100 because thats how much I believe that he can come through in that situation.
I don't know if we'd have a better chance with Rasho. But I do know that we have a good chance as it is. I know that people are eager to convince themselves its over to prevent a letdown, but I don't believe its over. If a letdown comes, then so be it. But if the victory comes, its going to be damn sweet. And there's a reason the Mavericks keep saying they are thinking of each game as a game 7. It is because they realize how quickly they can lose this series. They understand that coming back here for a game 7 is a dramatic step backwards for them. They haven't gotten the Spurs monkey off their back just yet, and its one big nig monkey.
Spurs in seven with small ball, Spurs in seven with bigs, Spurs in seven regardless.
Spurs won't win with small ball in Dallas. They won't get the calls and/or Dallas will hit their shots.
Dirk's injury gives the Spurs a chance to play 3 bigs. Horry/Oberto on Dirk, Rasho/Nazr on the Dallas big-men, and Tim can be free to switch between Stack/Howard. That would make Dallas a jump-shooting team for the most part, and I like those chances much better than trying to win with small-ball in Dallas.
Why do people think the Spurs can't win with small ball in Dallas? They came within one shot of doing so in two games, DESPITE the refs. And in case you hadn't noticed, the smallballers were playing pretty good D in the 4th last night. I expect that to carry over tomorrow.
Within one shot yet they're so damn sure. ONE ING SHOT. ONE FREE THROW. ONE DEFENSIVE REBOUND.
Fine, don't believe. It really doesn't mean . I just think its retarted to talk as though they can't when its so damn obvious they CAN.
Your gonna have to have a little faith, if the Spurs play strictly small-ball in Dallas, they will lose. Dallas has the youth, athleticism, and at home they'll get the calls.
One should never count off a team with a player that has zero points, zero shots, one rebound,
and wins the game by blocking the shot of someone 6 inches taller.
Skank, you are obviously an idiot who has never rolled his ankle. I have, 34 times over the past 16 years including type 1, 2 and 3 sprains and 2 torn ligaments, and I can tell you that even a type 1 sprain (the lowest injury level) hurts for weeks and takes away your explosiveness and confidence from that leg.
Try getting a clue.
Nice work nbadan.
It worked in games three and four. Some questionable calls got Dallas the wins. Small ball isn't all that bad. They played good defense last night.
Manny, dude, I love you, but climb down from the precipice. No-one in this thread (except nbadan) is unequivocally saying we can't win, most are saying that we stand far less of a chance playing the way we are than playing SPURS BASKETBALL, the basis of our success over the last 7 seasons. Small ball is playing their way, and it just makes NO SENSE, especially as one of their best shooters is out.
The le of this thread is poor and misleading, but the analysis is actually spot on. Did you read obstructedview's posts because they speak the truth.
And when it comes down to it, winning basketball games isn't a FAITH-BASED activity, it is about playing better basketball than the opponent. Right now we are jousting with the Mavs without our lance.
Peace.
Fixed it for ya.
Arrogance isn't arrogance if you can back it up. If the Spurs weren't playing small ball, the Spurs would have won this series in four or five games. Conservatively, the Spurs big rotation would take three or four of the layups and maybe one or two of the wide open threes away from the Mavericks and maybe throw in a block or two and maybe an extra steal leading to a fast break bucket. Multiply that by each game and this series becomes a joke.
You also don't remember the series against Phoenix last year. The Spurs guarded the out of the three point line, and the Suns couldn't score enough on the inside to counteract it. Ironically, it's the exact same formula that's making the Spurs look so easy to beat, even for an inept bunch like the Mavs, who are one stupid mistake from having swept Spurs smallball.
Another correction of your memory: Rasho and Nazr averaged 24 minutes per game in that series. That's a far far ing cry from the one minute they logged in the last three games.
All I know, is that we'll all be happy tonight. Lets get this party started.
I NEVER said the Spurs played small ball in the PHX series
WTF, can you guys not comprehend my post? I said the PHX series was proof that the Spurs have adjusted their game because of their opponant in the past. This is NOTHING new. I defy you to tell me where I said the Spurs played small ball or didn't play their bigs in that series.
Also expect the scoring drought of the eight Spurs that totaled five points combined in the last game to continue, as they continue to struggle to try to fill roles they haven't been asked to fill all year.
I NEVER said the Spurs played small ball in the PHX series
WTF, can you guys not comprehend my post? I said the PHX series was proof that the Spurs have adjusted their game because of their opponant in the past. This is NOTHING new. I defy you to tell me where I said the Spurs played small ball or didn't play their bigs in that series.
I was taking issue with the fact that you think the Spurs didn't play defense in that series, which just couldn't be more wrong. The Spurs held Phoenix to 20 points in the first quarter in games one and two and had a ten point lead. In game 3 the Spurs held Phoenix to ten points in the second quarter. In game 4 they didn't have a good defensive quarter and they lost. The Spurs were running off turnovers and missed shots. That's something that's difficult to when the other team goes right to the rim and shoots layups.
The spurs have tweaked their game plan because of opponents before. Until this year, I'd never seen them completely abandon it.
I never said they didnt play defense. I said that that is not how they beat them. They beat them by adjusting their game.
We will just have to agree to disagree on small ball in this series. I just hope you are not one of those fans that would rather the Spurs lose to be proven right than them win and prove you wrong.
Did the Spurs really handle the Mavs this years??? Don't really think so. You spurs fans are crazy. Face it...your season's over, and I'm glad you can realize it...nice posts!!!
First of all, this thread is not for you, off.
Did the Spurs handle the Mavs? Absolutely. The game that mattered was the one on March second, and the Spurs completely dominated that game, despite giving the Mavs a double digit head start. The Spurs had the division and the tie breaker pretty much in hand by that last game, regardless of what you want to say it meant. You are a moron, but that's not surprising, since you've only been following basketball for a couple of years at most.
Sorry, I guess I misunderstood your meaning when you said "they sure as weren't beating them with defense". Come to think of it, I guess I still don't get it.
Why on earth would I ever want the team to lose? If I wanted them to ing lose I'd be going rah rah rah for smallball instead of pointing it out as the most collosal up in Spurs playoff history. I just figured I'd be better off posting my thoughts before the game instead of waiting until after tonight's loss to post "I knew smallball was a mistake".
I get you OV. But there are some fans on here who would rather the Spurs lose and be right than have then win and be wrong. You didnt strike me as one of those, but I wanted to be sure.
I can't believe there are more than one or two of those, tops. I think it's like the guys here that say "Rasho sucks, Nazr sucks, Beno sucks, NVE sucks." The vast vast majority are so passionate in their criticism because they want the player to do well. Same goes for criticising the team, IMO. I've been extraordinarily critical of Pop, because I think he's making the stupidest mistake ever in the history of this organization. The second he abandons 48 minutes of smallball, the Spurs win the series and all is forgiven.
Why'd you disappear from 5/9 (game 2) to 5/18, Obstructed_View???
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Spurs > Mavs
Actually, it's 3-3...so Spurs = Mavs
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