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    just face it...POP F*CKED IT UP

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    just face it...POP F*CKED IT UP
    That doesn't help us. He should be the one facing it. He saw nothing wrong in this series, so we are ed now. Pop already started to put together a small ball team. No centres and only one PF, TD. That should work.

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    After all, any idiot can make a team the winningest in basketball for a decade, but it takes a supergenius to refuse to make any adjustments in the playoffs.
    Your idiot went away from what made him the winningest coach in basketball and tried to play small ball.

    Your idiot is fishing, golfing, or tasteing wine, but he's done coaching for 3 months.

    That's the bottom line.

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    Your idiot went away from what made him the winningest coach in basketball and tried to play small ball.
    You'd think he would have learned from what happened when he tried to play at Phoenix's tempo last year. Shame on him.

    Well, I hear Larry Brown is available. He never changes his approach.

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    you guys might have a point if nazr was actually capable of being productive this year/postseason. he had his chances and sucked it up, bad. he cannot protect the paint. i think rasho may have been decent in spots, but he didn't get the time. the nazr we saw last year in the playoffs is long gone. pop is here until duncan retires, sit back and get used to it. we simply didn't have anyone who could guard dirk effectively for long stretches besides bruce, and we had to shuttle him around to try and cool down whoever else caught fire.

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    Mental mistakes at critical points of games cost this team. Up by three, you do NOT foul someone going for a layup (last night), and you do NOT throw the ball away on an inbounds (Game 4).
    The Spurs lost 3 games they would have won last year (Games 3, 4 and 7), and it's because the Spurs made mental mistakes, and the Mavs played very well at the end of the game, executed and got exactly what they wanted. The Mavs deserved to win the series.
    I think the problem was that Josh Howard had fantastic performances in the 1st 3 games. Rasho and Nazr could not guard a very athletic, quick and long player like him. It wasn't until Pop took Bowen off of Dirk and on put him on Josh Howard, that he started to struggle. Had Pop kept the Bigs in there, Josh would have had a career series. U figure, Dirk's going to get his points regardless, but u can't let J.Ho score 26pts a game. The Spurs just didn't have the athletes to matchup with Dallas this year, period. Let's not forget, this series may not have been as close as it appeared had Terry played in game 6. I truly believe that Dallas would have won in 6. SA had an opportunity to take advantage of that and couldn't. However, the Spurs are still a top 3 team. They just need to get younger and more athletic in the offseason and they'll be right back in it next year. Don't hang ur head too low. U still have the best big man to ever play the game and despite what critics say about his age and foot, he is by no means fading. In fact, I thought Duncan had his best performance in a series ever against Dallas.

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    Let's not forget, this series may not have been as close as it appeared had Terry played in game 6.
    this series could have also easily been spurs in 6 with 3 different bounces, or mavs in 4, spurs in 5, and so on and so forth. the series ended up every bit as close as it appeared. neither team was clearly superior to the other.

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    You'd think he would have learned from what happened when he tried to play at Phoenix's tempo last year. Shame on him.
    You are one dumb son of a .

    Starting lineup last year vs. Phoenix:

    Parker
    Ginobili
    Bowen
    Duncan
    Mohammed

    Starting lineup vs. the Mavs:

    Parker
    Ginobili
    Bowen
    Duncan
    Horry or Finley

    Seeings you're a ing idiot:

    The Spurs played small ball with two seven footers last year and won. The Spurs played small ball with Tim Duncan and four guards this year and lost

    Pop's a great coach, but he got worked in this series. Quit being so ing dense.

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    Pop went with Small ball cause in the 2nd game he got torched like a Roman candle in a hot ashes.......

    Trust me, he saw the film and realized pretty quickly that Nazr, Duncan, nor Rasho could handle Dirk or Howard on the defensive end. The thing that he didn't count on in the end was that none of his guys could handle Dirk on the defensive end.

    You have to realize what Dallas was doing in game 2 to see what Pop had to do. Dallas primarily runs 2 plays for most of the game, the high pick, or a Dirk Iso at the top of the key. That's all they pretty much run I'd say %80 of the time. Pop knew that's what they were going to do by game 2, but the way they ran with Harris vs Griffin wasn't stoppable with Rasho in the game. Dirk would pick for Terry or Harris Nazr switched, now you have Parker on Dirk and Bowen on Terry or Harris doesn't sound bad yet does it. Now in the switch the guard has time to get in the key just slightly sucking in the Defense and now Terry or Harris can go to the wing to Howard or Stackhouse who is either gaurded by Nazr, Duncan, or Rasho, but if for some reason that mismatch isn't available he just dumps it back to Dirk and Dirk drains the jumper from the top of the key or if the Spurs bring a double he kicks to a guard who is being guarded now by a big. That guard can now shoot over the big or drive to the hole now guarded by a bunch of guards....

    Pop had no choice really, Dirk is the ultimate defensive killer, he's simply like no other player to ever play the game. He's an above average shooting guard that happens to be 7' tall and can rebound as well as just about anyone in the league. Dirk's offensive skill set is so amazing but dare I say even if he were 6'5" he'd still be a starting guard in the NBA.

    BTW, the Mavs never really played "small ball", our lineup primarily was 2 7 footers, 2 guards, and a lengthy small forward.

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    2 point guards = small ball. avery went small in game 2.

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    It was that 1st quarter.. they scored 37 points...

    There was a Basketball Clinic and the Spurs where the patients...

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    2 point guards = small ball. avery went small in game 2.
    Nah 4 guards and a center is small ball. Lots of teams play 2 small guards in their back court and it's considered conventional, Knicks, Detroit isn't far off with Rip only weighing 100lbs, Houston, Toronto.

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    I think the problem was that Josh Howard had fantastic performances in the 1st 3 games. Rasho and Nazr could not guard a very athletic, quick and long player like him.
    Actually I was thinking about putting Rasho on Harris.

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    Pop had no choice really, Dirk is the ultimate defensive killer, he's simply like no other player to ever play the game. He's an above average shooting guard that happens to be 7' tall and can rebound as well as just about anyone in the league. Dirk's offensive skill set is so amazing but dare I say even if he were 6'5" he'd still be a starting guard in the NBA.
    Dirk deserved the season MVP and is a offensive monster this year, especially when the Spurs let him drive left, which I still can't understand, but that's another story. However, Bruce didn't make Dirk pay on the other end. Against Phoenix, Dirk will probaly have to primarily guard Marion (21.9ppg) and I think we'll see just how deserving Dirk is of the playoff MVP award.

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    Dirk deserved the season MVP and is a offensive monster this year, especially when the Spurs let him drive left, which I still can't understand, but that's another story. However, Bruce didn't make Dirk pay on the other end. Against Phoenix, Dirk will probaly have to primarily guard Marion (21.9ppg) and I think we'll see just how deserving Dirk is of the playoff MVP award.
    Nah this year Dirk won't have to guard Marion this year, I think he'll be on Tim Thomas and Damp will be on Diaw, Howard on Marion, and the guards will take whomevers left.

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    Dirk deserved the season MVP and is a offensive monster this year, especially when the Spurs let him drive left, which I still can't understand, but that's another story. However, Bruce didn't make Dirk pay on the other end. Against Phoenix, Dirk will probaly have to primarily guard Marion (21.9ppg) and I think we'll see just how deserving Dirk is of the playoff MVP award.
    I didn't even have to check who wrote the post you've quoted, I knew it was Mavs fan.

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    Stick to Window Shopping.
    Stick to the topic.

    All you people (Sequ included) were bashing Rasho and Nazr all season, how they sucked, were too slow, wouldn't dunk, had bad hands, butterfingers, etc. Now all the sudden they would have been our playoff saviors? Classic!

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    I agree with the whole "dance with you brung ya" theory but if they change the music...you have to adjust. The Spurs didn't lose this series because of the absence of Rasho and Nazr.

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    You are one dumb son of a .
    Sorry. When you said that we should stick with what won for us in the regular season, I didn't realize that you think it's okay to throw tempo and playing style out the window as long as we do it with exactly the same lineup.

    I suppose that Pop should also have known that trying to slow Dallas down was utterly pointless because tempo isn't very important in basketball, unlike lineups, which should never, ever be changed for matchups.

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    I am still pissed at Pop


    forgive, sounds good
    forget, i’m not sure i could
    they say time heals everything
    but i’m still waiting

    i’m through with doubt
    there’s nothing left for me to figure out
    i’ve paid a price
    and i’ll keep paying

    i’m not ready to make nice
    i’m not ready to back down
    i’m still mad as and
    i don’t have time to go round and round and round
    it’s too late to make it right
    i probably wouldn’t if i could
    ‘cause i’m mad as
    can’t bring myself to do what it is you think i should

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    Stick to the topic.

    All you people (Sequ included) were bashing Rasho and Nazr all season, how they sucked, were too slow, wouldn't dunk, had bad hands, butterfingers, etc. Now all the sudden they would have been our playoff saviors? Classic!
    Don't bother bringing up inconvenient facts to the likes of them. You'll only confuse them.

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    Different thread, applicable here. Not that it will make any difference...but hey, one can hope...

    I think it's pretty clear by now that Dallas is versatile. Besides, with the rules as they are, they did the right thing in forcing matchups.

    This is the point that I don't understand from the Rasho/Nazr camp -- it's not as if playing those guys was going to force the Mavs to go big on the defensive end. Neither Rasho or Nazr is a particularly strong offensive player. AJ could have played Dirk on either of those guys and not had to concern himself with any sort of fouling issues or the need for double teams. Since playing those guys wouldn't have forced Dallas to matchup on the offensive end (any differently than they did), and since those guys wouldn't have had anyone to defend on the defensive end, what good does playing them do?

    It seems to me that such a choice would have been far more stubborn than prudent.

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    The second time I'm asking the same question.

    If Pop WAS forced to play small ball, why didn't he use either Nazr or Rasho when Tim was on the bench? Do you really believe that Horry was the best option to play center in those (rare) minutes?

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    The second time I'm asking the same question.

    If Pop WAS forced to play small ball, why didn't he use either Nazr or Rasho when Tim was on the bench? Do you really believe that Horry was the best option to play center in those (rare) minutes?
    Yes...because a lot of the time Dirk was on the floor then. That was the problem. If they had gone with Dampier and 4 smalls, then fine...but they didn't.

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    Can we end this debate once and for all?

    Nazr and Rasho had NO ONE to guard! Maybe, MAYBE, we do a little better on rebounding, but we lose offense, AND we put Tim in foul trouble early.

    GET OVER IT ALREADY!


    In case you haven't noticed it, there's a trend in the NBA, where teams are going with smaller, more athletic players. AND, it appears to be working. We need a long, athletic player (and Elton Brand type) to put next to Tim.


    TO REPEAT: Rasho and Nazr wouldn't have done jack for us.

    Thank you.

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