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Remember, he's young and he didn't play at all last year. It's hard to give him too much ink, because nobody knows what he looks like on the court.
We'll see when summer ball rolls around.
I find it interesting that none of these articles ever mention Viktor. Are the Spurs trying to "hide" him- because he is the guy they hold the rights to that plays the spot we most need.
Remember, he's young and he didn't play at all last year. It's hard to give him too much ink, because nobody knows what he looks like on the court.
We'll see when summer ball rolls around.
Didn't the Express-News article just last week say he was going to be in summer league?
I'm seeing guys like Jumaine Jones and Bobby Jackson on the Spurs' radar. If they want to open up the vault at Holt Cat then there are other options.
Why would Chicago S&T with the Spurs if they are $20 mil under the cap?
Radmanovic is too much of a one dimensional shooter for my liking.
Harrington? Hmmm...for the right price he'd be fine. But you can't get him for the right price.
Yeah. A young who?
I would like to see that young guy in the playoffs.
. Nobody will be a reliable bench player in the PO (from the ppl you are presenting)
Spurs have no bench right now. Dammit. Horry is worthless, Pop not gonna play Oberto or Marks or beno or Rasho or everybody besides Starting five and 2 worthless players.
CAVS are seekin to trade Z
I'd bite if they take Rasho and salary ballast. He makes big bucks, but he's fairly complete as a player on both ends of the floor.
I wonder if there's any chance the Spurs could pry Ben Wallace away from Detroit. He's a FA this season, and the prospect of Wallace and Bowen on the same team would be a Spurs fans wet dream come true. OPP PPG would be like 75. I don't think our Pistons friends here would be too happy about that.
I'll come crashing back down to Earth now.
That squirrel he has stapled to his face has got to go though.
spoken like a ture man who doesn't know about the game.Horry is worthless
Spurs don't win the series vs Sacramento unless Horry plays big minutes.
Id trade Rasho, Oberto, and whoever else to get him.CAVS are seekin to trade Z
Illgauskas in the right system is a decent defender and rebounder.
great jumper to free up the middle of Timmy.
Pretty much the player we expected Rasho to become.
z looks much better with the beard, he needs to keep it.
Umm, in a word, no. Big Ben earned $7.4M this season, you can bet he'll get a good deal more next contract.
I agree that Big Ben will be a Piston next year but with the "new" NBA rules he may not get the huge raise we have all expected. I guarantee every GM in the league is looking at their roster doing +/- evaluations and trying to figure out how they will expend their limited dollars/flexibility to compete in the new era of "offense" basketball.
TOP 25 FA's
1. Ben Wallace, PF/C, Detroit
2. Jason Terry, PG, Dallas
3. Peja Stojakovic, SF, Indiana (Player option)
4. Al Harrington, PF, Atlanta
5. Mike James, Toronto (Player option)
6. Chris Wilcox, PF, Seattle (Restricted)
7. Nene, PF/C, Denver (Restricted)
8. Drew Gooden, PF, Cleveland (Restricted)
9. Bonzi Wells, SG/SF, Sacramento
10. Matt Harpring, SG/SF, Utah
11. Joel Przybilla, C, Portland
12. Ronald Murray, Cleveland
13. Speedy Claxton, PG, New Orleans
14. Vladimir Radmanovic, SF/PF, LA Clippers
15. Jared Jeffries, Washington (Restricted)
16. James Posey, SG/SF, Miami (Player option)
17. Nazr Mohammed, C, San Antonio
18. Reggie Evans, PF, Denver
19. Keith Van Horn, SF/PF, Dallas
20. Sam Cassell, PG, LA Clippers
21. Alonzo Mourning, Miami
22. Fred Jones, Indiana (Restricted)
23. Ruben Patterson, Denver (Player option)
24. Bobby Jackson, PG/SG, Memphis
25. Francisco Elson, Denver (Restricted)
Take ur pick...james posey seem like a bust with the heat, wasntthe spurs chasin him b4 last season...
that would be one of my number one choices, if possible. i think z has been the second best center in the league until ming took over those honors. but i think he would be amazing next to duncan. if we could do that and somehow get speedy along with javtokas (if ready), i would be happy.
My pick? Ben Wallace!!
If it were up to me, I'd keep the CORE five players: Tim, Tony, Manu, Bruce, and Horry....and KEEP the new excellent addition in the form of Michael Finley who has proven to be a great player and a "class act" off court as well. He has truly fitted very well with the other players. And the bad situation with Terry just showed that he is a "class act". Plus he was phenomenal even in the games that the Spurs lost to Dallas. He can shoot threes very easily...
I'd trade everyone else, no matter if they get paid very little, we can still get a good trade...
I'd trade Barry and Rasho for sure because these guys get paid more than Bowen even though Bowen has started every single game since 2002...Bowen's minutes are crazy and he contributes in BIG ways for the Spurs, remember his brilliant blocks on Dirk and Chauncey Billups last year. Yet why does Barry and Rasho get more money? Barry can shoot three point shots...BUT he has made way TOO many mistakes this year and last year. It seems that everytime he is put in the game, right away, he makes a stupid mistake. Truly he is a nice guy who all the Spurs players like...but we need GREAT players on the team...
As for Rasho, why does this guy get paid SO MUCH money for SEATING? He barely has minutes and when he does, does he truly contribute? I don't think so. I haven't seen him do anything spectacular or whatever...
Nick Van Excel has said that he is retiring...so his spot is open...
Beno Udrih hasn't done much for the Spurs this year or last year, let's be honest. And the fact that he is so young and inexperienced can't be used as an excuse anymore. Tony is his age, and yet, look where he is...I know Beno's paycheck isn't big or anything...but still we can get a nice trade, I think...
I don't know about Nazr though because I really like him. I think he's a great player...BUT because he had already refused to sign a four year contract with the Spurs earlier this season, it seems obvious that he does not want to stay with us...so i'm sure he'll be traded...
I'm fine with all those trades as long as my favorite core five stay...now with the addition of Finley, everyone else is expendible...
Why does Bruce have the shortest contract? I don't get it. 2006-2007 year is guaranteed but 2007-2008 is partially guaranteed....Why would Pop not give him a longer contract? Is there actually someone who can do his job better than him? I mean Bruce was the lead vote getter this season in the All Defensive Team...all the coaches know how valuable he is...I mean many other teams would JUMP at the possibility of having him on their team! No one else can guard people the way he does...And so what if he's 34 right now...He certainly does not play as if he were over 30...I mean surely Pop and everyone else will never forget his amazing block on Dirk in Game 5 and his block of Chauncey Billups last year...that's just true talent...I want him to have a contract as long as Manu, Timmy, and Tony...And Horry, he needs a longer contract too...We need "big shot Bobby" on our team...
My fear is that I hope that in two years, the Spurs won't let Bruce and Horry go...The length of their contracts scares me...Just because they are not in their twenties anymore, it does not mean that they are old and don't have anything left. I'd feel a whole lot better if both of their contracts were way longer...
He'll be 35 next month.
But Horry is a year older than Bruce...and his contract is also 2 years...except that his second year is guaranteed in his case, but not, in Bowen's...
What's next: Expected to play for Argentina in World Championships this summer. If so, Spurs may reduce his workload at the start of season to keep him from tiring.why cant Manu take some damn time off???
Didn't Pop "ask" Tony not to play in the Olympics, a few years back??? Why cant he do the same with Manu
Thank you!
And?Spurs don't win the series vs Sacramento unless Horry plays big minutes.
8 seed Sacto - we know how they played the game but they were 8seed.
Vs the mavs? GMAB plus he is older and older. He would be great player if he had 10 yers less then he has now. Face it. the Horry time has passed
Yeah. maybe Ferry will agree on a deal Gooden + Z for Rasho + Oberto - what do you think?Id trade Rasho, Oberto, and whoever else to get him.
Illgauskas in the right system is a decent defender and rebounder.
great jumper to free up the middle of Timmy.
Pretty much the player we expected Rasho to become.
People really want to commit 4 years and $45M to Ilguaskas or 5 years and $55M to Chandler!!
For Ilgauskas, No.
For Chandler, Yes.
Spurs haven't a lot of trade assets. If we want to change things for next year we have to take some risks :
- either with euros who are rookies.
- either with overpaid players.
- either with injury-prone players.
- either with bad at utdes players.
We haven't enough quality things to trade to get a perfect player.
I'd take the risk with euros who are rookies. Some young players have incredible talents that people don't even know about yet...
The overpaid players thing, I would not touch. We don't have enough money to just throw it away on one expensive player...
Injury-prone is a huge liability. We might get a player who will be seating on the bench for lots of games due to whatever injury they have...and for us, it does not add to anything...
Bad at udes players...never...lol...I'm proud of the Spurs players, coach, and the organization because of their values. They have kind and generous people. I would not want to ruin that by adding someone who's got at ude issues because that would create problems within the team and cause drama. I would always take quality over quan y. For me, personality is just as important as talent.
So I LOVE your first option, bring new Euro rookies here...
I agree, but the key to all of those is finding overlooked players that become undervalued so you can make smart gambles rather than poor one.
Find Euro rookies that can really develop into players. The Spurs have tapped into this one repeatedly.
Find overpaid players that can be worth their salary in a different situation. Canonical example: conventional wisdom was that Phoenix completely overpaid for Nash, except that he was so valuable to them that he was worth it. Find the perfect piece for your system, and he may be worth the dumb contract. Find overpaid guys that don't fit well together, and you're Isaiah.
Find players who have a bad rap for injuries, but that you have reason to think can make a full recovery and stay healthy. Otherwise, you're sitting on Penny Hardaway's contract.
Find guys who have a bad at ude rep because they didn't mesh somewhere else, but that you think you will fit better on your team. Preferably, they won't simply be stone crazy like Dennis Rodman.
If you make smart gambles on guys, you'll usually come out ahead. If you make random ones based on whoever you can find, you'll just bury the team deeper for next year.
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