All Aboard The Reggie Evans Express

[timvp]

Rebounding isn't enough.
Nazr is a great rebounder (9th in rebounds/48min) and I don't think a shorter version of Nazr will help us. I don't find that Evans will do e better job on defense than Nazr or that he can defend Dirk.

And the main reason why Spurs aren't a good rebounding team is because we played with a SG/SF at the SF spot and not a SF/PF at the SF spot.

That's a good excuse, but they still have to fix it. They can't continue to be outrebounded next year. Oh and what was the excuse against Detroit during the regular season?

Evans is much more mobile than Nazr. He's also much faster and has better hands. In the current era of speed basketball, Evans would fit way better than Nazr.

[Bruno]

That's a good excuse, but they still have to fix it. They can't continue to be outrebounded next year. Oh and what was the excuse against Detroit during the regular season?

Evans is much more mobile than Nazr. He's also much faster and has better hands. In the current era of speed basketball, Evans would fit way better than Nazr.

Spurs weren't outrebounded this year.
We were outrebounded during certain games :
- Against Detroit : you can blame it on Rasho or on the lack of motivation. We weren't outrebounded by them during the 2005 final with the same team.
- Against Sacramento : our swings couldn't contain theirs swings and we have played some small ball.
- Against Dallas : small ball.

I don't say Evans won't help us but I just don't think this guy is the best solution. Duncan/Evans can be the best rebounding duo in the nba but that's all and I don't think it's enough.

[timvp]

Spurs weren't outrebounded this year.
We were outrebounded during certain games :

Bottomline is the Spurs were outrebounded in 11 of their 13 playoff games. Yeah, they played small ball but that doesn't change the fact they were outrebounded. With Reggie Evans, they wouldn't have had to go as small.

[timvp]

If the price for Evans is a full MLE deal ($30M/5years), I rather go for a player like Harrington for $50M/6years.

1. I doubt Evans gets the full MLE. No teams made him an offer last year outside of Seattle. I'm thinking something like $12-15M over 3-4 years or something along those lines.

2. How do you propose the Spurs get Harrington. I'd like to trade Rasho, Nazr, Beno, Marks, Oberto, PJ and Sanders for Andres Nocioni but that won't happen either.

[Nbadan]

Pine Sol?!?

Evans made the news on December 6, 2005, when he was absent for the opening minutes of the second half in a loss to the New York Knicks. Cir stances did not allow Evans to take a steroid test prior to the game, so a league official required that it be done at halftime. Evans laughed off the suggestion he was under su ion. "I've been clean since I've been in the league. I've been clean since I've been in college. I've been clean since I've been in high school, middle school, elementary school. I'm just cleaner than clean. I'm cleaner than Pine-Sol."

For his rebounding prowess, Sonics fans refer to him as "The Collector," although some prefer the moniker "Pine Sol."

Wikipedia

[timvp]

Pine Sol?!?





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If he's on the juice, it's all good.

As long as the Spurs don't get repeatedly owned on the boards next year

[Bruno]

Bottomline is the Spurs were outrebounded in 11 of their 13 playoff games. Yeah, they played small ball but that doesn't change the fact they were outrebounded. With Reggie Evans, they wouldn't have had to go as small.

It was either being outrebounded or being outscored by Dirk or Howard, pop has chosen being outrebounded.
Evans can't defend on Dirk or Howard, he won't have changed that.
I understand your point, but I just think that Evans poor offense and average defense can't be offset by his rebounding ability.
To me, he is just a rebounding specialist and we need a more all-round player to start with Duncan.

[Kori Ellis]

1/2 the MLE, I'd take him.

Full MLE, nope.

[timvp]

Evans can't defend on Dirk or Howard, he won't have changed that.

I think he could, but it's tough to prove that over the internets.

I understand your point, but I just think that Evans poor offense and average defense can't be offset by his rebounding ability.
To me, he is just a rebounding specialist and we need a more all-round player to start with Duncan.

Fair enough. I looked but there aren't any available players who would be the all-around types I'd also prefer. Give me some reasonable names that the Spurs could sign.

[Bruno]

1. I doubt Evans gets the full MLE. No teams made him an offer last year outside of Seattle. I'm thinking something like $12-15M over 3-4 years or something along those lines.

2. How do you propose the Spurs get Harrington. I'd like to trade Rasho, Nazr, Beno, Marks, Oberto, PJ and Sanders for Andres Nocioni but that won't happen either.

1. It's way more difficult for players to get offers when they are restricted free agent, teams don't want to freeze their money during one week. $30M is maybe too much but I think he will get at least $20M.

2. Harrington is an unrestricted free agent. That means that we can do a S&T for him. Miami get Walker for 2 second round pick. I'm sure we can get Harrington for our 2007 first round pick + a trade exception big enough (if Atlanta doesn't want one of our player).
I think a realistic way to get a TE big enough is to trade Rasho+Scola for nothing to Chicago. I think Chicago can do this trade.

[Streakyshooter08]

Well Reggie Evans would probably help the Spurs with their rebounding problem. I wonder how good his 1-1 defense is. He seems quick and strong but I haven't seen him play a lot.

What came into my mind concerning Jeffries. Maybe they could pull off a trade with the Wizards. They don't really have good big so how about: Nazr/Scola/ Udrih for Jeffries/ Daniels
I don't know the salaries but I think it would help both teams.Just an idea...

[Gummi]

I like Al's game, but I'm afraid he's looking for the big money. He's probably looking for $10 million plus a season and the sad thing is that he's probably going to get it somewhere.

In a perfect world, Al Harrington would be our sixth men and the punch off the bench that the Spurs have been looking for for years. But that's in a perfect world. He would never accept a bench role for any team because he could start for about 25 teams.

[timvp]

I think a realistic way to get a TE big enough is to trade Rasho+Scola for nothing to Chicago. I think Chicago can do this trade.

Why would Chicago use their cap space on Rasho? For that to be worth it, Scola would have to be the next Charles Barkley

And even if there was a way to get Harrington, I don't like him as a player. He's too slow to be a small forward and not big enough to be a power forward. Plus he doesn't rebound that well and his low post game would get in Duncan's way.

[Bruno]

Why would Chicago use their cap space on Rasho? For that to be worth it, Scola would have to be the next Charles Barkley

Because they need a center (Chandler is more a PF) and there aren't good centers available via FA (only Pryzbilla is available and I don't think he will sign with Chicago). If you're Bulls GM, what will you rather do :
Spend more than $30M/5 years for a center like Nazr.
or
Spend $23.5M/3 years for Rasho and $10-12M/3years for Scola ?

I'll go with Rasho and Scola.

[timvp]

I'd keep my cap space. The Spurs haven't been able to trade Rasho for an expiring contract of unused players. To go from that to a team who cleared cap space to make a splash in free agency, that's a large jump. Paxson would get hung if his big offseason acquisition was Rasho.

[mattyc]

But we can't give him 30, that's Terry Porter's number.

Someone had to say it.

As for Evans, he's far from the top of my list, but I can see where timvp is coming from. Evans would fill a role.

[Bruno]

Tyrus Thomas will be their main acquisition.
Bulls can keep their capspace but it won't change the fact that they need a center. Only Ben Wallace and Pryzbilla are available and better than Rasho, I doubt Bulls can get them.
It will be easier to trade Rasho this summer because he has one less year on his contract. I think too that Scola is a good incentive for another team, this guy is quite young and is the best PF not playing in nba.

[Bruno]

As for Evans, he's far from the top of my list, but I can see where timvp is coming from. Evans would fill a role.

100% agree.

[intlspurshk]

I think a realistic way to get a TE big enough is to trade Rasho+Scola for nothing to Chicago. I think Chicago can do this trade.

You got to be kidding. If Paxon do this trade, he will be murdered by Bull fans

[intlspurshk]

I really like Pryzbilla but SPURS will not face Shaq before beating Mavs and Suns. SO R Evans is a good choice if SPURS can take him for 3m. There is not better alternatives. Of course, if J Jefferies come, it would be better. But SPURS are too nice and not tough enough. SPURS need someone to do trash talking, crash the board, box out, GET REBOUND. He can do all that. He is not Ben Wallace nor Chris Kaman but they are untouchable. By the way, SPURS don't need further offense but a man can dunk and put back. At least he can dunk!!!

What's the big deal with the nut? He didn't foul out.

[SpurYank]

Hopefully, Pop won't read any of this and get the idea that our fans have figured out what went wrong and we now have the answer. There is no Reggie Evans on the Suns Roster and they are doing just fine against the Mavs, thank you. The Pistons have the all-world team and they are finding a way to suc b to the Heat.

IMO we have two rebounders who will do just fine when healthy. One is TD. The other Rasho. When we have to play 4 bigs and the rest small, and with TD over his plascitus condition, we have the horses to beat anyone. Pop needs to depend a bit more on his bench, the way he did for the great part of the year. Oberto, Barry, and Beno CAN contribute.

The Mavs shot unbelievably in that 7th game and they were ours to beat in that last minute. Manu normally makes that shot, or her could have gone for the rim and drawn a foul. Manu also didn't heed Pop's instructions to not foul (We had 3 point lead).

None of this had anything to do with rebounding.

Let Reggie Evans stay where he is.

The Spurs will be back. Experience is a uva a teacher.

[Bruno]

And for people saying that Evans is undersized : he is not that undersized,
Height without shoes : 6'7"1/2
Height with shoes : 6'8"1/2
Wingspan : 7'2"1/2
Reach 8'11"1/2

He is quite short but has long arms, a player like Wilcox isn't bigger than him.

[SPARKY]

I wanted the Spurs to pick him up this season. As for the Rose comparison, Spurs fans don't seem to understand that mold of big is precisely the kind you want when you are facing "small ball" or "open court" or whatever basketball. Rose was also the reason the Spurs had no problem with the Dallas matchup in playoffs past.

Man, you don't need to construct a team with stars at every position. You need pieces that fit. I'd rather see the Spurs sign Evans for $10 to 15 mil over a few years than drop $30 mil or more on a Mohammed or whoever. You'll still have Rasho if you need to go to the more conventional shotblocker at the 5 alongside TD. If you need to spread the floor you can go with Horry.

[SPARKY]

Also, sign Evans and make Scola wait another year. Maybe then will his asking price make sense. If not, deal his rights and get something useful.

Plus, whenever the Spurs face the Clippers, Kaman will be watching his back.

[exstatic]

I don't think he'll be much of a Dirk deterrent. Anyone who listens to David Hasselhof probably WANTS to have his junk grabbed by another guy...