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  1. #76
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    25-5 against the Western Conference.

    If anything, the Western Conference made the Pistons look great and dominant.
    you're right but, i don't buy it

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    you're right but, i don't buy it
    The ball may lie, but the numbers don't.

  3. #78
    Believe. ForestBrain's Avatar
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    Flip S-U-C-K-S

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    I Like Double D's DDS4's Avatar
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    Maybe I'm missing something, but what is Flip doing or not doing that is pissing off the players?

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    Flip is not coaching smart with his play calls, with his subs utions, and with his time-outs. He is struggling right now, and he's coaching scared.

    I just think it's been a growing problem throughout the season, and losing just makes things worse. In general, it appears many of the players don't respect Flip, including both Wallaces. And, when there is little to no respect combined with losing, things come to a head.

    Even if the players had big problems with Flip but they were winning, you wouldn't hear much about it. It's the nature of the game. When you win, things are at least seemingly fine. When you lose, things are bad.

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    I'm guessin' why Sheed was pouting outside the timeout huddle is because Flip wasn't calling enough plays for him in the low block?

    Dice said as much during the post game interview. Pistons were settling for too many jumpers.

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    I Am Jack's Smirking Revenge atxrocker's Avatar
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    oh well. ever since detroit almost let the queen advance to the ecf i was hoping they would go down, thinking they wouldnt. what a pathetic effort. it- a heat/suns finals would be fun anyways.

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    it- a heat/suns finals would be fun anyways.
    very fun. can you imagine shaqs slow ass chasing around the suns?

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    Marilyn Rae Lover jochhejaam's Avatar
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    The Pistons during the regular season had enough self-discipline and leadership to coach themselves, and at 64-18, they did a heck of a job.
    Come playoff time, however, game-to-game adjustments matter. Schemes matter. Game plans matter. Teams need a coach. Flip Saunders simply is not up to the task.
    Stout, I don't believe the team could win a francihise best 64 games "coaching themselves", thats 10 more wins than they had under the highly regarded coaching skills of Larry Brown. There are possibly some problems with the at udes of the players that's affecting the teams overall performance. IMO I think Chauncey may think he's superior to his teammates because of the MVP talk and that's affecting his game which in turn affects the whole team.

    These perceived coaching and playing problems will be readily dismissed with a series win over the Heat in which I still give them a 50% chance of winning.

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    Garnett > Duncan sickdsm's Avatar
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    Flip is not coaching smart with his play calls, with his subs utions, and with his time-outs. He is struggling right now, and he's coaching scared.

    I just think it's been a growing problem throughout the season, and losing just makes things worse. In general, it appears many of the players don't respect Flip, including both Wallaces. And, when there is little to no respect combined with losing, things come to a head.

    Even if the players had big problems with Flip but they were winning, you wouldn't hear much about it. It's the nature of the game. When you win, things are at least seemingly fine. When you lose, things are bad.

    No one really listens to what you think about coaches or coaching since you've been so wrong about Flip before.


    You thought Flip was leading the Pistons to the promised land when its been the otherway around. And no, it is NOT the nature of the game. Wolves have won a good number of games for years and i was smart enough to know that flip wasn't a good coach. Matter of fact i was very vocal about flip's problems but you chose not to listen. Don't lie and say you don't hear about it.

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    I have no idea what happened because i didn't watch the game, it's festival weekend and that's one weekend a year where even the pistons get put into second place on my priorities list. Sounds like the Heat just plain beat us though, hoping for a better performance tommorow(though I probably will miss seeing that one as well)

  12. #87
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    No one really listens to what you think about coaches or coaching since you've been so wrong about Flip before.


    You thought Flip was leading the Pistons to the promised land when its been the otherway around. And no, it is NOT the nature of the game. Wolves have won a good number of games for years and i was smart enough to know that flip wasn't a good coach. Matter of fact i was very vocal about flip's problems but you chose not to listen. Don't lie and say you don't hear about it.

    Oh how you love to remember facts so inaccurately.

    1. This summer, I wanted Larry Brown to come back as coach of the Pistons.

    2. This summer, if Larry Brown was to not come back, I wanted Joe Dumars to hire Terry Porter as the next head coach.

    3. When Flip was hired, I was more than willing to give him a chance to prove himself as a head coach.

    4. I even stated that when Flip showed his inabilities to coach properly, Pistons fans would get on him.


    Check my previous posts. Go ahead and look them up.

    You're just pissed off because your precious T-Pups finally got rid of the coach you hate, and they STILL GOT WORSE.

    If you check most Pistons fans opinions, including my own, it wasn't that we were diehard supporters of Flip. It was that we were willing to give him a chance to succeed with a better team.

    I've said this over and over again, but the players make coaches look good, and it's the players that ultimately make a coach look bad.

    sickdsm, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE go look at my old posts. Prove me wrong.

    You're a bitter Minnesota Timberwolves fan who will never experience even coming close to winning the NBA le. Deal with that in a better manner than to bash other teams who have accomplished that.

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