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SINCE FAULK???
ever heard of a guy called LaDainian Tomlinson? He was pretty productive in college too and set records like "most rush yrds in a game."
He didnt win the heisman though, because chris weinke was clearly a superior contributor.
I thought you were refering to THEE Ohio State University.
Forgive me.
Like I said, it wasn't just the highlight reals or the one game. Yes, those factored in, but it was the fact that he was arguably the best player on the best team with some of the most insane college performance in a decade (since Faulk), doing it all while splitting time.
I admit, Young showed how great he was in the le game. I argued he should have gone #1 overall in the draft.
SINCE FAULK???
ever heard of a guy called LaDainian Tomlinson? He was pretty productive in college too and set records like "most rush yrds in a game."
He didnt win the heisman though, because chris weinke was clearly a superior contributor.
Nash to Bush to Faulk to LT?
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We'll call this a best of 3.
Manu no, but Howard might be in a year or two. The kid reminds me of Amare prior to last season. Still a bit raw, but developing quickly.
Could the same be said for Raja too? Heck, even TT. Both have stepped up huge for the Suns.
But this is whats ironic.. Here's little ol Nash leading his team to w/in two victories of the finals WITHOUT a big man inside.
But that's the funny part, the front office did nothing to give him any help. Despite having a trade exception and draft picks out the wazoo.
Yet at the end of the season those media types were all saying someone else, Lebron, Wade, Dirk, etc, should be MVP, not Nash. And when the voting came in it was a fookin landslide for Nash. Go figure..
Yer kidding right? Though i thought White was the better player in the backfield this year for SC.
Gotta say that pussface has been playing the role of "nail" to JM's hammer rather well thus far.
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Jesus ing Christ...................
How ing long did that post take to write with all those quotes.
I didn't feel like flooding the thread w/ multi posts like puss.
It's simple, you open two browser windows. Use one to create the message and the other to copy and paste quotes from.
I'm glad I have a mac, because I've had upwards of 10 browsers open at onceOS10... damn fine machine...
Mac schmac.. Try multiple monitors ;-)I'm glad I have a mac, because I've had upwards of 10 browsers open at once
I'm still saving up for my system at home. My POS Coompaq is on its final legs. Half the websites don't even show up any longer. I'm hopin by the fall.
I really like this Mac... Though your multiple moniter idea intrigues me...
What is even funnier is................................I didn't even read them.
I didn't feel like flooding the thread w/ multi posts like puss.
Build your own.. Or get one of the newer Dells, not a bad price.
Mac & Tiger, or whatever the latest Kitty OS is, are nice. I have no preference but use Windows because software is much more readily available ;-)
He's so good, they have to hide him on defense. Unfortunately for Nash, he can't hide from the guy who handles the ball on every possession. Look, give up, you're lost in bball arguments. Nowitski is better on defense than before, but he's far from being "solid" on defense.
Nah, I was laughing at these ridiculous statements that you made in the second half of your post.
Seriously, I can handle somebody saying that he isn't one of the ten best players in the league, but I would disagree. I can handle somebody saying that Shaq deserved the MVP last season and LeBron this season, but I would disagree again. But I could see how somebody could make a legit arguement for those points. But what I laughable is somebody disguising a thread about one thing, Nash not being a top ten player in the league, and really not having the nerve to come out and say what you really mean, you feeling that Nash didn't deserve MVP consideration. If you can't see that if Nash wasn't the MVP of these last 2 seasons, he was no further back than second in line.
this thread suggests that there is truth to the old expression that the popular, prevaling opinion is not always correct.
im not going to win any popularity contests with this opinion i guess.
thats a fair point maybe I shouldnt be discussing his 2 time mvp status on this thread...
...seems like lots of people maybe do agree hes not a top ten player though, but somehow they have it in their minds that he is still worthy of mvp consideration. i dont see how that computes.
You're not going to win many games with the opinion either...
Again, when everyone think you're wrong, you stand tall, middle finger raised in defiance, stating, "I am as correct now, as I've ever been... I am as correct now, as I've ever been..."
Ready to admit maybe I'm not the only stubborn know-it-all in this thread?
Because this isn't an individual sport, it is a team sport, and what does Nash do for his team?
Then you haven't read my posts.
MVP is most valuable, not best overall or most talented.
You're making you claim based on talent, not impact. The award goes to the player who means the most to his team. Nash is that player for the Suns and he's up their with players like Dirk, LeBron and Kobe overall in the League.
The voters deemed Nash to mean more to his team than those others do to theirs. They deemed he holds the most value for his specific team, for that specific season.
....i dont mean to be defiant. steve nash is not overrated.
Then what was the point you were trying to make when you posted this thread?
steve nash is the best player in the national basketball association
No he's not.
there's a difference between stepping up and carrying a team to a championship. Manu has carried the spurs in must win games. Plus, Raja and TT on their best days don't come close to what Manu has done.Could the same be said for Raja too? Heck, even TT. Both have stepped up huge for the Suns.
True, but if every player is ont their best days, Manu still doesn't come close to being a top-10 player. He's very good, but he's a borderline top-25 player.
It's arguable. A lot has to do with the Coach and who's on their team. If you watch Spurs games Pop always sits Manu's ass down when he's on fire. He benched the guy in the Mavs series and other playoff series to add spark to the bench and Manu doesn't complain--while Barkley a Manu-Homer practically chastised Pop for benching Manu in a pivotal game 4 against the Mavs. Then Pop went back and started Manu in game 5 which he won with keyplays. Don't try to downplay Manu's abilities. He's a unique player with a multi-dimensional game. He's not just a scorer. He's one of the main reasons we went to a game 7.
You could say the same about Nash not being able to shine in Dallas under Nellie as much as he does with D'Antoni. So you may have an arguement that based on Manu's performance for the Spurs, he's not a top 10 player. But I think he could be if Pop knew how to use him better. This is a guy who's been a leader for Champions in and out of the NBA.
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