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    Quick question: what other contracts are there from 2007-10?

    Lame excuse.
    There might not be anything there NOW. But to stay compe ive they will have to be able to sign good players. Look at the Pistons, they're getting strapped for cash because they're paying their starters so much. Their bench (outside of McDyess) is almost non-existant.

    Thats why players like Bowen are so great. The guy is just a role-player, but hes so valuable to the Spurs. And, he only costs a little over 3M a year. How amazing is that for a die-hard starter?

    The Spurs have always been smart with money. Why would this change all of a sudden?

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    So spend no money on the supporting cast? Yeah, that works.

    They have no commitments to players save for the big 3 past 2008.

    How exactly is it unreasonable to expect the team to spend on their supporting cast when they were prepared to spend $50 mil over the next 3 years on players outside of their top 3?

    Damn, when do Spurs fans stop kissing ownership ass?

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    So spend no money on the supporting cast? Yeah, that works.

    They have no commitments to players save for the big 3 past 2008.

    How exactly is it unreasonable to expect the team to spend on their supporting cast when they were prepared to spend $50 mil over the next 3 years on players outside of their top 3?

    Damn, when do Spurs fans stop kissing ownership ass?
    I think the whole idea was we need to have cap space to be able to pay a supporting cast.

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    I think the whole idea was we need to have cap space to be able to pay a supporting cast.
    Um, they do. Or are the Spurs going to go with only 3 players?

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    Um, they do. Or are the Spurs going to go with only 3 players?
    Weren't you asking who we have under contract for 07-10?

    The only players we have locked up long term is our big three. So I'm guessing your point was we have cap space? Actually I have no clue what your point was, one of us isn't articulating our point well and it seems like you contradicted yourself at two different points in this thread.



    What exactly are you trying to say?

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    Anyways....

    What do you guys think of taking Bobby Jackson instead of Speedy? Hes got a similar game, but more reliable from 3. Also, hes going to be cheaper (maybe 3.5M?). I think he'd be a great backup for TP and he could fill some time at the 2 as well to add quickness.

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    Bobby Jackson has more range and is a tougher defender.

    But he's also older, and I think is starting to wear down slightly. I would rather invest in a 4-5 year contract for a guy like Speedy.

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    Weren't you asking who we have under contract for 07-10?

    The only players we have locked up long term is our big three. So I'm guessing your point was we have cap space? Actually I have no clue what your point was, one of us isn't articulating our point well and it seems like you contradicted yourself at two different points in this thread.



    What exactly are you trying to say?
    The point is that the Spurs don't have any commitments to players outside of Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker after the 2007-08 season. In addition, the Spurs have ridded themselves of $38 million in salary commitments from 2006-09 with the departures of Rose and Nesterovic. Throw in the likelihood that Barry could be included in a sign and trade and you have theoretically $50 million in room from 2006-09 to spend on your supporting cast. So you say the Spurs have to be afraid of the LuxTax boogeyman. Then they have $35 mil or so to spend. I'm just trying to find out what the latest excuse the Holt Catlickers are going to come up with for not making moves this summer.

    Is Holt Cat offering each of you a case of Shiner Bock for kissing his ass? ownership let's get some players and win this mofo.

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    Anyways....

    What do you guys think of taking Bobby Jackson instead of Speedy? Hes got a similar game, but more reliable from 3. Also, hes going to be cheaper (maybe 3.5M?). I think he'd be a great backup for TP and he could fill some time at the 2 as well to add quickness.

    Pass.

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    The point is that the Spurs don't have any commitments to players outside of Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker after the 2007-08 season. In addition, the Spurs have ridded themselves of $38 million in salary commitments from 2006-09 with the departures of Rose and Nesterovic. Throw in the likelihood that Barry could be included in a sign and trade and you have theoretically $50 million in room from 2006-09 to spend on your supporting cast. So you say the Spurs have to be afraid of the LuxTax boogeyman. Then they have $35 mil or so to spend. I'm just trying to find out what the latest excuse the Holt Catlickers are going to come up with for not making moves this summer.

    Is Holt Cat offering each of you a case of Shiner Bock for kissing his ass? ownership let's get some players and win this mofo.
    I don't think anybody has ever accused the Spurs of being cheap.

    We have overpaid players in the past, and we have been in positions where we haven't been able to afford players. Right now it seems like came across a little money, and are looking to spend it. We're always right on the brink of the luxury tax penalty, so I don't really see your point...Holt is no Donald Sterling (of the past).

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    I don't think anybody has ever accused the Spurs of being cheap.
    That's because many have not paid attention.


    We have overpaid players in the past, and we have been in positions where we haven't been able to afford players. Right now it seems like came across a little money, and are looking to spend it. We're always right on the brink of the luxury tax penalty, so I don't really see your point...Holt is no Donald Sterling (of the past).
    The Spurs are as close to a lock as there ever will be to winning championships if ownership will spend on a supporting cast.

    Lux tax? What the do you care about that?

    The Spurs let Malik Rose and two 1st round picks go because of the Lux Tax boogeyman. Tell me they couldn't have used him in that last series. Tell me taking away two 1st round picks from the best talent evaluation staff in the NBA is an awesome idea. Now Spurs fans are trying to come up with excuses why the Spurs can't spend money after they got rid of the two contracts the Spurs ed about the most. that. Are you guys basketball fans or do you yourselves when Holt Cat is raking in $$$$? . Disgusting.
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    That's because many have not paid attention.




    The Spurs are as close to a lock as there ever will be if ownership will spend on a supporting cast.

    Lux tax? What the do you care about that?

    The Spurs let Malik Rose and two 1st round picks go because of the Lux Tax boogeyman. Tell me they couldn't have used him in that last series. Tell me taking away two 1st round picks from the best talent evaluation staff in the NBA is an awesome idea. Now Spurs fans are trying to come up with excuses why the Spurs can't spend money after they got rid of the two contracts the Spurs ed about the most. that. Are you guys basketball fans or do you yourselves when Holt Cat is raking in $$$$? . Disgusting.
    Right, the luxury tax.

    You should apply for vacant general manager positions around the league.

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    Right, the luxury tax.

    You should apply for vacant general manager positions around the league.

    yeah, it. What # does Lux Tax savings wear?

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    90% of nba owners do not want to pay the lux tax
    but spurs are cheap

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    ducks get your bill off Holt's ass.

    At this point it's not even about the Lux Tax. Yet Spurs fans still buy into the old saw that the Spurs are on the brink of financial disaster. Unreal.

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    moving rose and rasho was smart because they made way to much money for 12 men off the bench


    no team would pay that to them for that role

    teams need that money for other players that are 1-7 men on the team

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    moving rose and rasho was smart because they made way to much money for 12 men off the bench


    no team would pay that to them for that role

    teams need that money for other players that are 1-7 men on the team
    Again, who is under contract past 2008? How much Lux Tax are they reasonably on the hook for in 2007-08?

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    yeah, it. What # does Lux Tax savings wear?
    You and Isiah Thomas would get along well.

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    You and Isiah Thomas would get along well.
    Zeke doesn't have Tim Duncan on his roster. Try again.

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    and the spurs front office is not full of idiots, isiah thomas is. haha

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    By ridding themselves of Rasho's contract, the Spurs should be in the position to take on some longterm agreements. That'd be especially true if they let Mohammed walk.

    At the very least, the Spurs better sign-and-trade Nazr or use the entire MLE.

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    I think we can get something good in return for Nazr, would blow to let him just leave

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