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    Maybe so, but they have an uphill battle finding FAs who want to be there. I figured that they might stay under just enough to work a deal like that.
    I think it would be easier for them to deal halfway desirable FAs like Harpring or Collins, if they wanted to go that route. Keeping the rights to Harp alone would make the cap space evaporate.

    And keeping those rights would allow Utah to end up over the cap if they wanted. It just seems that renouncing all those guys for a couple million over the MLE would limit them this summer unless they were going to threaten overpaying for a restricted FA.

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    I guess I should add the caveat that I have no idea what the cap is supposed to be next year -- I always play like it's going to be flat until I hear otherwise.

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    I think it would be easier for them to deal halfway desirable FAs like Harpring or Collins, if they wanted to go that route. Keeping the rights to Harp alone would make the cap space evaporate.

    And keeping those rights would allow Utah to end up over the cap if they wanted. It just seems that renouncing all those guys for a couple million over the MLE would limit them this summer unless they were going to threaten overpaying for a restricted FA.
    Makes sense.

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    In the Rumor Mill . . .

    The Magic could have interest in New Orleans Hornets shooting guard J.R. Smith, who likely will be on the trading block. He and Hornets Coach Byron Scott apparently have had a falling-out. . . . Rumor Mill II: Do the Magic and the Houston Rockets have a draft-day deal in the works? That seems to be the scuttlebutt at the Finals. . . . Rumor Mill III: Apparently Magic forward Trevor Ariza, a restricted free agent, has no interest in playing for the club's summer-league team if he's re-signed. . . .

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    Spurs better not go to sleep on this one

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    I think the Spurs will visit this trade again. I know he wants out. The Hornets would like to have a veteran who has an outside shot. They are trying to build a good team and seem like they are on their way. Paul is an awesome PG and David West is a good inside force. They have Mason to creat. Barry would fill that outside shooting they're looking for.

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    I sincerely hope they get this deal done as soon as the offseason begins July 1st.

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    For some reason I think it will get done. Barry is a fine player. Very good in the locker room and what not, but its not like he really produced this past season. He had his good moments.
    The Spurs would like to get rid of his contract and take on someone like JR Smith and his contract.

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    I think Barry will be trade but not for Smith.

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    Who do you think they want to get for Barry? I would think they'd want to get something they need like a small four or rid of his contract.

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    Who do you think they want to get for Barry? I would think they'd want to get something they need like a small four or rid of his contract.
    Salary dump move.

    And I don't see Hornets re-do this deal because:
    - They will maybe look for a long term solution
    - A resaon for Hornets to do this deal was to dump Macijauskas' contract.
    This dump sweeten barry's salary. Now it seems that they have a better way to dump it : Last news are that Macijauskas want to come back in europe. I can see a small buyout (around $2M while he has $5M left on his contract) between Macijauskas and Hornets. Macijauskas won't lose money at all because he will get a big contract in europe.
    Last edited by Bruno; 06-14-2006 at 04:58 PM. Reason: not enough explicit

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    Salary dump move.

    And I don't see Hornets re-do this deal because:
    - They will maybe look for a long term solution
    - A resaon for Hornets to do this deal was to dump Macijauskas' contract.
    This dump sweeten barry's salary. Now it seems that they have a better way to dump it : Last news are that Macijauskas want to come back in europe. I can see a small buyout (around $2M while he has $5M left on his contract) between Macijauskas and Hornets. Macijauskas won't lose money at all because he will get a big contract in europe.
    I don't think anybody likes to bpay a buy out...and I hope ther's still the chance to make the deal like it was originally thought (Barry for JR Smith and Macijauskas).
    If we sign scola, two ex Tau players could re-meet in our team... I don't know the relationship between the two ex teammates, but they were the best weapons of the Tau just two years ago!

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    I don't think anybody likes to bpay a buy out...and I hope ther's still the chance to make the deal like it was originally thought (Barry for JR Smith and Macijauskas).
    Everybody like to turn a $5M loss into a $2M loss. (Macijauskas contribution is null)

    anyway, I won't re-do this deal.
    Spurs needs are a backup PG, a long SF who can defend and rebound and big men helps.
    Smith and Macijauskas are 2 backups SG and will cost $3.5M a year. Spurs are close to the Luxury tax that is almost a hard cap for us. I rather spend these $3.5M on a player who fills a need.

    I rather trade Barry for nothing to a team like Charlotte (and I think they will gladly do it : they need experience, a SG, shooters, Barry's contract length is perfect for them and Barry won't maybe cost them money with the minimum salary rule).

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    Keeping Barry might not be a bad thing. He can shoot and he is a killer against the Suns.

    Barry>>>Hedo & Steve Smith

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