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  1. #76
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    pussface, JM keeps hammerin ya and you continually play the role of nail to his hammer.

    Face it, after your banter the mavs have zero margin for error.

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    These are just the posts who highlighted one of my arguments against you and commended it. Not even the post who just happened to agree with my takes and disagree with your. I don't think I'd be allowed to quote all of them. Post would be too long and would probably exceed allowable bandwidth...








    Only because I know how much Pussy hates emoticons.

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    What part of that was a mirage? The 54 regular season wins, or the 10 postseason wins?

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nba0506.htm
    Give. It. Up.

    In pussyface's world of reason, 49 wins and a first round sweep equals le contender while 54 wins and a Conference Finals run equals a one-season mirage.

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    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    "Problem is this. If you knew how to read, you'd see I never dismissed any team. You dismissed the Clippers on the basis of what? That the Mavericks didn't play them? I said you can't prove the Griz were an elite team while the Clippers a bum team, especially when the Bum team was one win from making the Conference Finals."
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    Look, im not going to win any popularity contests on Spurs talk, but you need to consider the possibility that the majority of people on spurstalk might be wrong.

    You still havent addressed my direct criticisms.

    People tend to think you are correct also because you blatantly misstate the case that I make. read my initial post: you interpreted that I said Griz are "elite" and clippers are "bums." what i said was that Memphis was one of the teams that could beat both LA teams...THEN I SAID THAT THIS WAS DEBATEABLE.

    Go back and read the things that I say. Its there, post 1, big as life. This would lead to more reasoned debate than what we get when you see my screename and just start in with your personal resentment.

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    JM, but wasn't last season supposed to be a mirage? Once Amare went down weren't the Suns lottery bound this season?

    </sarcasm>

    Hey, we've been preaching it all season - that no inside game will eventually catch up to the Suns. Amazing how that's always over looked.

  6. #81
    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    similarly, i never said that the griz were contenders, only that they were a top 10 team in the league that would have had a great chance to beat the LA teams.

    any chance you will acknowledge that there is any truth to the idea that the Suns had a favorable path to the WCF's?

    I remember in a previous thread you responded "YES" to the question "Am i the only one in the world who isnt that impressed with beating the two LA teams?"

    Although this idiocy seems to have a lot of weight here, you are not in the mainstream/majority opinion in traditional basketball circles.

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    What's an inside game?

    Mavs fans of 2006: "Who is Rolando Blackman? I didn't know we had a team until Cuban managed a Dairy Queen for a day."

    Btw, I went to high school with Ed T. Rush's son at Brophy and boy were they pissed when Cuban said Rush couldn't even manage a DQ, much less be the head of NBA officials...

  8. #83
    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    you'll never hear me suggest that the suns arent going to continue to win a ton of games in the regular season.

    ive seen that act before, from you guys and my beloved nellie mavs.
    one thing ive never seen is a team without defense win an nba le, and im not convinced that this is a pure coincidence.

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    Haha, a Mavs fan talking about "traditional basketbal circles"... the irony is too obvious to continue...

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    Than consider who they played: I believe there are about 8 other teams in the NBA who could have qualified for this years WCFs if they had the Sun's path of playing the 2 LA franchises. This includes:

    Miami
    Dallas
    SA
    Detroit
    NJ
    CLE
    SAC
    Memphis (I like them to beat the Clippers, but its debatable)

    Taking an objective step back, I believe, suggests that this year's Suns squad was largely a mirage.
    Can't misquote this. You claim Memphis and Sacramento are le qualifiers while Phoenix and LA Clippers aren't.

    Has nothing to do with misquoting or debate, bub. Your words, in their entirety. Nothing added. Nothing taken away. Just your mindnumbing idiocy front and center and coming back to bite you in the ass.

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    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    haha...great point by Ron.

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    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    jmark- your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired.

    I listed teams OTHER THAN THE SUNS that could have done what the Suns did. It would not have made any sense to list the Suns there, because they already proved that they could do it.

    rather than trying to force implications that i never made, how about you tell me where my analysis is wrong.

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    I bet I can piss further than both of you.

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    the 54 regular season wins were a mirage in that they came by playing a style of ball that is great in the regular season but has consistently failed to yield playoff success.

    the 10 postseason wins were a mirage because 4 of them came to a dreadful Lakers squad, 4 of them came against an average clippers squad, and they lost just as many games as they won.
    Failed to yield playoff success?

    I would say consecutive runs to the WCF the first time mostly using 6 players and the next without their most dominant player qualifies as playoff success.

    Not to mention many teams have won championships with a similar fast-break style of ball(The Suns style does not require a lack of defense BTW). But somehow I am not surprised at your lack of knowledge in this area since it was mostly before 1990 and therefore most likely before you were born.

    To start the season I was hoping for a division le and a second round appearance. They more than exceeded my expectations so I see this season as any thing but unsuccessful or a mirage of some sort.

    Congratulations to the Mavericks on their well earned victory. You on the other hand can take your condescension stick it up your ass.

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    Look, im not going to win any popularity contests on Spurs talk, but you need to consider the possibility that the majority of people on spurstalk might be wrong.
    Have you thought that with so many posters countering your arguments with the same general idea that maybe you might be wrong?

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    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    Can't misquote this. You claim Memphis and Sacramento are le qualifiers while Phoenix and LA Clippers aren't.

    Has nothing to do with misquoting or debate, bub. Your words, in their entirety. Nothing added. Nothing taken away. Just your mindnumbing idiocy front and center and coming back to bite you in the ass.
    this list was labeled as teams i believed could beat the LA teams. i gave no indication that i thought these teams were le contenders (nj/cle/mem, etc)

    its hard to argue with a guy who distorts what you say beyond recognition.

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    ...SUNS TAKE STEP BACK...

    ...I sincerely am not that impressed with their playoff run this year...

    ...I believe...that this year's Suns squad was largely a mirage.
    You didn't have to not include them in your who's who of Pussyface's le Contenders to imply, if not state out right they didn't belong.

    These three statements clearly imply you think they were undeserving. While your inference of lesser compe ion and lesser record suggest they really shouldn't have been their at all.

    It's fine that you think such. Obviously so many here, of probably much more basketball experience and knowledge aren't enough to dissuade a stubborn, old goat like you. Maybe you should be the one questioning your stance, not I, after so many here, of so many team affiliations, disagree, if not even vehemently disagree. But go ahead and shrug this off. You're too good to think twice. , after reading your posts, it's apparent you're too good to think even once.

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    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    Failed to yield playoff success?



    To start the season I was hoping for a division le and a second round appearance. They more than exceeded my expectations so I see this season as any thing but unsuccessful or a mirage of some sort.

    Congratulations to the Mavericks on their well earned victory. You on the other hand can take your condescension stick it up your ass.
    again, lets stick to things that i actually said. i totally agree that the Suns exceeded any reasonable expectation by advancing to WCFs. ...

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    again, lets stick to things that i actually said. i totally agree that the Suns exceeded any reasonable expectation by advancing to WCFs. ...
    So explain how that's a mirage again?

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    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    again, you have isloted my most sweeping and sensational quotes while ignoring the substantive basketball reasons i put forth.

    im sorry if you thought i was listing contenders: I clearly stated that this was merely a list of teams that I believed could have qualified for WCfs if given the Suns path; in fact, the whole point was that many of those teams werent serious contenders either.

    great dad humor in furthering your personal grudge against me!

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    again, lets stick to things that i actually said. i totally agree that the Suns exceeded any reasonable expectation by advancing to WCFs. ...
    SSSSOOOOOO... an undersized, undermanned team exceeds an and all reasonable expectations for their season, yet they have taken a step backwards in so doing?

    Pray tell, how?

    Logic, meet pussyface's boot, then meet curb.

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    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    So explain how that's a mirage again?
    its a mirage because they didn't beat any impressive teams to get there and still only finished .500.

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    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    SSSSOOOOOO... an undersized, undermanned team exceeds an and all reasonable expectations for their season, yet they have taken a step backwards in so doing?

    Pray tell, how?

    Logic, meet pussyface's boot, then meet curb.
    a step backwards? where do you get this stuff from? Again, I never said anything close to this. Thats becoming a common theme here, yes?

    I would say that there were a lot of promising developments for your nice little squad (development of young players etc.)

    according to my crazy, nonsensicallogic, not being a legit. le contender doesnt mean that you didnt have a nice season and didnt make strides towards improvement.

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    again, lets stick to things that i actually said. i totally agree that the Suns exceeded any reasonable expectation by advancing to WCFs. ...

    So you are not impressed with the Suns playoff run.

    Yet you admit they exceeded all reasonable expectations.

    In what world does this make sense?

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    again, you have isloted my most sweeping and sensational quotes while ignoring the substantive basketball reasons i put forth.
    The praise received from the posts already addressing your BS tells me:

    Veni Vidi Vici


    im sorry if you thought i was listing contenders: I clearly stated that this was merely a list of teams that I believed could have qualified for WCfs if given the Suns path; in fact, the whole point was that many of those teams werent serious contenders either.
    Revisionist history at its finest. Since when is a team just a few wins away from the Finals not a Finals or le contender? You clearly impy more than you seem to know.

    You just stated that Sacramento and Memphis could come within a few wins from the Finals, yet they aren't le contenders?

    That's fine, don't ever let any one of us interrupt your "I'm as right as I ever was... I'm as right as I ever was" session.

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