Give it up dan. You're talking out of your ass and everyone sees it. al-jazeera (English or otherwise) has never done anything for America except to paint us all as a bunch of devils. The fact that you had to stoop to their anti-American slant in an attempt to minimalize the Zarqawi killing is a new low, even by your standards.
They're distantly related insomuch as they are the exact same company with the exact same website with the English version translated into (get this) English. Try taking "english" out of the URL... What's this? al-Jazeera's official website? Oops...
al-Jazeera International is an English language satellite channel owned by al-Jazeera and run from Qatar that isn't even officially up and running yet. Oops...
Well, they show the civilian bodies from our bombs that the American press doesn't show. If that's an anti-american slant to you then it's only because you feel an inherent guilt about what we are doing in Iraq.
I didn't try to minimize the Zarqawi shooting - I merely said that Zarqawi has been dead for a long time. Take that as you may.
With a different news chief and American and British reporters and correspondents, but that too much fact for you.They're distantly related insomuch as they are the exact same company with the exact same website with the English version translated into (get this) English. Try taking "english" out of the URL... What's this? al-Jazeera's official website? Oops...
With a different news chief and American and British reporters and correspondents of a channel that isn't even officially broadcasting yet. That doesn't run it's own website that is only distantly related to al-Jazeera, if at all. That is funded by Qatar's Ministry of Finance (just like al-Jazeera). That the managing director said "will share resources, production facilities and story lists" with al-Jazeera. Is that too much fact for you? Wait, let's face it. Any fact is too much fact for you.
they are a news agency like the AP. does the AP broadcast?
Are you serious? english.al-jazeera.net is the English language version of al-Jazeera's website. al-Jazeera International is an English language satellite news channel that is run by al-Jazeera. Where exactly does any of that prove, or even suggest, that you were telling the truth?
http://www.ajicommissioning.net/public/home.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_InternationalWelcome to Al Jazeera International's commissioning extranet site.
Al Jazeera International is a 24-hour news channel. It also broadcasts thousands of hours of factual programming with detailed features and analysis, do entaries, live debates, current affairs, business and sports.
Al Jazeera International is a 24-hour English-language news and current affairs channel headquartered in Doha, Qatar. A subsidiary of Al Jazeera, it aims to commence global broadcasting in June 2006.
Let's get one thing clear up front: There never was a man whose given name was Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who carried out terrorist activities or led terrorist organizations or factions in Iraq. Any person with a passing familiarity with Arab culture and language would immediately recognize that the name, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi cannot be anyone's given name. The words cons ute two nicknames, or at best a nom de guerre.
"Abu" is used as a le of respect for a man who has had a son. Arab fathers are given nickames when their sons are born, such as Abu Musab -- "Musab's father." For example, the current Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas, goes by the nickname, Abu Mazen -- Mazen's Dad. So Abu Musab simply means, "Musab's Dad."
In addition, "al Zarqawi" is not this person's family name. It refers to the fact that he is from the town of Zarqa in Jordan. Arabs add "i" to the end of a place to say a person is from there, the way we add "er" or "ian" to the end of a place name -- Zarqawi means the guy from Zarqa, just as "New Yorker" means a person from New York or "Bostonian" means a person from Boston.
So the sum total of the mainstream media's identification of this person is "Musab's Dad, the guy from Zarqa."
To say that Abu Musab al Zarqawi does not exist, and never existed, does not mean that there was no Jordanian "terrorist" (or "insurgent" or "foreign fighter" or whatever) who went by this nondescript name. But it shows just how lazy and stupid the main stream media is in picking up and using this information-less non-name. Can you imagine the domestic US media tracking the story of a serial killer on the run, and them identifying the suspect as "Bob's Dad, the guy from the Bronx," and being taken seriously?
The person who was killed yesterday may have been named, Ahmad Fadeel al-Nazal al-Khalayleh, a member of the al-Khalayleh family of the Beni Hassan tribe. But then again, he may not have been. The al-Khalayleh name may also be a pseudonym. We just don't know for sure.
But what we do know is that on April 10, 2006, the Washington Post reported that al-Zarqawi was the subject matter of a US propoganda campaign in Iraq to exaggerate the importance of this person. In internal do ents, Gen. Mark Kimmitt stated, "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date."
Again, this does not mean that there was no Jordanian terrorist active in Iraq, a person probably named al Khalayleh, but it does mean that we really don't know very much about what this person did, how influential he was or even who he was.
We also know that he has been reported killed, reported having his leg amputated, reported having not had his leg amputated, having cut off Nick Berg's head while shouting in a non-Jordanian accent, having barely escaped being arrested, having been incarcerated in Iraq but somehow not identified (maybe the US forces were looking for the non existent al Zarqawi rather than for al-Khalayleh).
I don't know what is true or not true about this person. But what I do know is that "he" (or should I say "it") lived not in the hard reality you and I live in, or even the hard reality that someone like Muqtada as-Sadr lives in, but in a fog of facts and lies and pseudo facts and information and non-information and disinformation -- so much so that the only thing I can say for sure is that he was not exactly whatever you or I thought he was, even if the person behind the mask was as bad a person as the US government says he was.
No , I've been explaining his name to people for a while now. The translation of the name isn't exactly complicated. So how does his nickname having an inane meaning equal him not existing?
It doesn't. It just means that Zarqawi may have been more legend that reality based. For whatever reason, the U.S. felt it no longer needed the boogey-man Zarqawi.
LOL! ing dan... comes up with the craziest ... dan, you must be a terrorist practicing your english on a message board bc the you say never makes any sense..
It's interesting to contrast the reactions of foreign critics of the U.S. with that of unhinged domestic lefties:
Foreign critics: "Zarqawi's death is welcome, and will weaken al-Qaeda in Iraq, but the insurgency in Iraq is much, much bigger than just what al-Qaeda is doing, and Zarqawi's death does nothing to change that reality. The U.S. would be foolish to claim a major victory here."
Unhinged domestic lefties: "Oh crap this might give Bush a boost in the polls. This must have been a PSYOPS operation. Zarqawi isn't real or they pulled him out of the freezer. Well if Rove gets indicted hopefully people will forget about this Zarqawi thing."
Which isn't affiliated with the al-Jazeera.
Boy are you ever correct. The man didn't exist, well yes he did, but his name
didn't exist. Well it did, but it is two...............
Dan has a short circuit in his tin hat.
Distant cousins if anything. Al Jazeera the arabic station is run by the Emir of Qatar. Al Jazeera international is led by Russell Merryman.Who gives a who it's run by? It's the same company.
I'm also busting up about the two nuggets of NBADallahism:
1. He's been dead a long time. Riiiiiiiight. We just kept him on ice until we needed some good pub. I suppose we've got bin Laden too and we'll dethaw him right before midterm elections
2. He never existed. Dan, have you been watching the Usual Suspects? Zarqawi = Kaiser Sosei
Another column from The Toledo Blade's Jack Kelly.
Bad news for al-Qaeda
AT 6:15 p.m. local time on Wednesday, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaeda chieftain in Iraq, was meeting in a nondescript house in Hibhib, a hamlet about five miles northeast of Baquba, with eight of his top aides.
The meeting ended early. Two 500-pound bombs dropped by U.S. Air Force F-16s obliterated the house and killed all inside.
The fighter-bombers were guided there by members of Task Force 145, a team of special operators assembled for the explicit purpose of hunting down the al-Qaeda leadership in Iraq.
TF 145 had been directed to the farmhouse by tips from Iraqi civilians, and by information from interrogations of two al-Qaeda leaders captured in raids in May.
From a purely military standpoint, the loss of his lieutenants probably was a greater blow to al-Qaeda than was the loss of al-Zarqawi himself.
Al-Zarqawi had been targeting Shiite civilians in an effort to provoke a civil war. This was causing dissension with other insurgent groups, and within al-Qaeda itself.
Al-Zarqawi also was straining the alliance of convenience between al-Qaeda and the mullahs in Tehran, who have been supplying insurgents with sophisticated roadside bombs. Sunni extremists and Shiite extremists don't normally get along, but their shared enmity with the United States had caused them to work together.
Al-Zarqawi was jeopardizing this cooperation. Earlier this month he described Hezbollah, the leading Iranian-backed terror group, as a "cover for Israel."
Web logger Michael Totten asked Mohammed Afif, a Hezbollah leader in Lebanon, what he thought of al-Zarqawi's group. "We hate them," Mr. Afif responded. "They call us roaches and murder our people."
"Given that Zarqawi has become a loose cannon and his actions are handicapping al-Qaeda's efforts, it seems reasonable to expect that an accident will befall him at some point in the near future," said StrategyPage's Jim Dunnigan in a prescient post on the very day Zarqawi was killed.
But if the loss of al-Zarqawi the man won't hurt al-Qaeda all that much, the loss of al-Zarqawi the legend is devastating. "As he committed atrocity after atrocity, seemingly with impunity, Zarqawi became a mythic figure in part of the world where mythology has vastly more cachet than reality," said former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy.
Al-Zarqawi's death is a huge psychological and political boost to the fledgling Iraqi government. Iraqis danced in the streets. His legendary brutality had made many Iraqis fearful of cooperating with their government. Now that he is dead, what has been a stream of tips could become a river.
Al-Zarqawi's death also sends a message to fence-sitters among Iraq's Sunnis. For those who wish to be on the winning side, it is more clear which side that is.
Though the political benefits are primary, let's not give short shrift to the military benefits. No fighting organization can lose so much of its senior leadership without serious degradation of its performance and morale. The terrorists killed Wednesday can be replaced, but neither quickly nor easily, and the replacements will lack the skill and experience of the deceased.
And things will get worse for al-Qaeda. Thanks to leads from "a treasure trove " of do ents recovered from the rubble, Coalition forces launched 17 raids in greater Baghdad Thursday.
News of the demise of the murderous thug was greeted sourly on the left-liberal blogs Democratic Underground and Daily Kos, where posters feared al-Zarqawi's death would boost support for President Bush and the Iraq war.
Much of the news media also viewed al-Zarqawi's death chiefly through the prism of domestic politics. White House Press Secretary Tony Snow clearly was irritated when a reporter asked him Thursday: "Will the Zarqawi success help the President on immigration?"
The capture of Saddam Hussein didn't end the insurgency in Iraq. Killing al-Zarqawi won't either. But it should reduce significantly the bombings and beheadings of civilians. To those of us who think winning the war on terror is more important than embarrassing the President, that's a positive step.
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll...4/-1/COLUMNIST
Was Zarqawi a cross-dresser or a leftist?
News24There were few clues on Zarqawi's extreme ideology or the militant groups he was linked to in the rubble of the building that was pulverised by two 227kg bombs in a US air strike on Wednesday.
One leaflet identified a radio station in Latifiya south of the capital as an apparent target.
A few feet away was a magazine picture of former US president Franklin D Roosevelt.
Also beside the slabs of concrete was a woman's leopard skin nightgown and other skimpy women's clothes.
The US military had said the air strike killed a total of six people, three males and three females.
It said on Friday that a wounded Zarqawi was still alive when US troops reached the site but died shortly afterwards.
Looking over the site where Iraq's most wanted man may have been plotting more suicide bombs, an Iraqi soldier said he felt a great sense of relief.
Okay, here he is. Direct from the wonderful world of Jihad.
Iraq Qaeda names Zarqawi successor
Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:08 AM ET
DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda in Iraq named a successor following the killing of the group's leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, according to an Internet statement on Monday.
"The shura council of al Qaeda in Iraq unanimously agreed on Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, to be a successor to Sheikh Abu Musab al-Zarqawi," said a statement signed by al Qaeda and posted on a Web site frequently used by Islamist militants.
"Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Muhajir is a good brother, has a history in jihad and is knowledgeable. We ask God that he ... continue what Sheikh Abu Musab began," it said.
Muhajir, little known in the West, was not among the names that al Qaeda experts had expected as Zarqawi's likely successor.
Add the new guy to the most-wanted list and move on!
Sweet, someone new for target practice.
Bush: Zarqawi's successor will be on U.S. 'list'
AlertnetCAMP DAVID, Md., June 12 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Monday that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's successor as al Qaeda's chief in Iraq would be in U.S. sights, signaling the U.S. military would keep targeting insurgent leaders.
Bush was speaking to reporters after convening high-level consultations at the Camp David presidential retreat hoping to capitalize on Zarqawi's death. "I think the successor to Zarqawi is going to be on our list to bring to justice," he said.
They wouldn't have offed al-Zarqawi unless they already had his replacement lined up and ready to go as the next really, really bad-guy - prop him up and turn him into a monster. He will become a household name and the future target of American hatred.
al-Masri didn't last long as replacement, according to the same sources that are credited with tracking al-Zarqawi....
LinkIslamic militant, Abu Ayyub al-Masri, who is indicated by the US command in Iraq as potential successor to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi as leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, also died in the raid that killed the Jordanian militant, according to intelligence sources in Amman.
The Jordanian security sources, quoted by pan Arab daily al-Sharq al-Awsat, say given that death the most likely heir as emir of Al-Qaeda in Iraq is now Muhammad Saleh Hasan al-Aqidi. Jordanian intelligence services were fundamental in identifying the exact hideout of Zarqawi.
Seems we have a fan of conspiracy theory.
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