Tony Parker or Jason Terry?

[TDMVPDPOY]

jt doesnt dissappear > scrub mention

[windboy226]

Is that really your best argument?? No, we just tied on a nearly last second shot..Ginobilli doesn't foul Dirk on that last play and we might have spent the rest of the summer talking about how close we came to beating the Spurs for the 1st time. Outside of game 2 almost every game came down to the last shot. Yeah we won overtime but what if that foul on Duncan isn't called in game 3? Or if the Spurs don't have those costly turnovers in at the end of the games 3 and 4? Hey, I absolutely love the fact that we won but if you think the Mavs dominated the Spurs then you're just a complete homer. That series with the Spurs was the closest I've ever seen and I think that the Spurs and the Mavs are the two best teams in the NBA this year. We played the Spurs well and we won the series but don't be so quick to discount them next year with a healthy Duncan or Phoenix who gave us fits despite an extremely short bench and no Amare. Are you still going to be talking like this if Terry goes to another team?

[windboy226]

You haven't seen these "intelligent" spurs fans bombarding Mavs forums during the series saying how they were the "better" team and whining about the officiating (they still do) and predicting the Spurs winning the series 4-1 lol

Yeah, and isn't it pretty annoying to read? So your solution is to come here and do the same...Good thinking!

[Kori Ellis]

wrong! Terry will be 28 in Sept! Quit hatin',Dallas will be too much to handle next year with Harris, and Howard emerging as legitimate All-Star players.

Born: Sep 15, 1977

He'll be 29.

[RonMexico]

Who would you rather have on your team?

Kenny Smith

[RonMexico]

So, Jason Terry had his typical game 1 scoring outburst... yawn... He'll go back to being "the Propeller" pretty soon

[RON ARTEST]

terry is inconsistent and parker couldnt hit a jumpshot to save his life. so i will go with steve nash, even though he cant guard a parked car.

[pache100]

tony parker. terry, i hate that piece of .

Man most Dallas fans don't even take Terry.

[SPARKY]

Maybe Cuban can balk at paying Terry's price at age 29 just as he did Nash's price at age 30.

[strangeweather]

Maybe Cuban can balk at paying Terry's price at age 29 just as he did Nash's price at age 30.

There's no way he lets a key player walk after going to the finals.

I'm just sorry Shawn Bradley isn't up for another extension this summer. He might get another max deal too.

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lets see HOW MANY ASSIST DID TERRY HAVE
let me check YEP ONE
so terry can have one and be ok but tp can not
spur fan=crazy

[SPARKY]

There's no way he lets a key player walk after going to the finals.

I'm just sorry Shawn Bradley isn't up for another extension this summer. He might get another max deal too.

In a couple of years the Mavs will be stuck paying him $15 mil a year or so along with $20 mil to Dirk and then they'll have to pay Howard as well.

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In a couple of years the Mavs will be stuck paying him $15 mil a year or so along with $20 mil to Dirk and then they'll have to pay Howard as well.

you do realize dirk can opt out next summer right

[Amarelooms]

you do realize dirk can opt out next summer right

Why would he? I could possibly see him joining Nash in Phoenix to help them get a ring if they don't next year. This is more likely if the Mavs win this year. Regardless Dirk will get all the money he wants in Dallas he won't leave because of $$$.

[picnroll]

In a couple of years the Mavs will be stuck paying him $15 mil a year or so along with $20 mil to Dirk and then they'll have to pay Howard as well.

... and eventually Harris and a raise for Diop all in the window of Terry and Dampier's contract. Is Cuban going to stay the course he said he was on of fiscal responsibility?

[picnroll]

Why would he? I could possibly see him joining Nash in Phoenix to help them get a ring if they don't next year. This is more likely if the Mavs win this year. Regardless Dirk will get all the money he wants in Dallas he won't leave because of $$$.

Report is the Mavs already want to work an extension with Dirk. They don't want Dirk going into an unrestrited free agent situation. He'll want to get it done for long term security.

[SPARKY]

Dirk won't leave Dallas.

What'll likely happen is that the Mavs will be locked into a bunch of big contracts to keep the current team together going forward. Terry's payday is this summer, Nowitzki's is in a year, and Howard's the year after. With the Spurs only in need of a minor adjustment, if that, and the Suns getting back Stoudemire, the Mavs' window isn't exactly that big. I think the Mavs, provided they win this series, will be a long term one-hit wonder ala the '79 Sonics.

[Amarelooms]

Dirk won't leave Dallas.

What'll likely happen is that the Mavs will be locked into a bunch of big contracts to keep the current team together going forward. Terry's payday is this summer, Nowitzki's is in a year, and Howard's the year after. With the Spurs only in need of a minor adjustment, if that, and the Suns getting back Stoudemire, the Mavs' window isn't exactly that big. I think the Mavs, provided they win this series, will be a long term one-hit wonder ala the '79 Sonics.

Wow good one lol!! The West is tough....but calling them a won hit wonder is bit of a homer statement. I love how some people state the Mavs have a history of "choking" if you look at all their playoff losses the past 4-5 years...NOT ONE series loss fits the choking definition. Regardless if the Mavs win this year they will have acomplished something great and whatever happens in the near future is bonus

[SPARKY]

Yes, Homer, I said one hit wonder.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Who would you rather have on your team?

Terry shows up in the postseason and showsup BIG


and it's the postseason that counts, I could care less who the REGULAR season All Star was




with that, Parker is much younger, and I won't forgive Terry for the ball punch


right now Terry, couple years from now, Parker

[1Parker1]

Terry shows up in the postseason and showsup BIG

This is the first postseason I recall Terry "showing up."

Anyways, Terry was awesome yesterday. He really kept his cool and was the guy who kept the Mavs in the game in the first quarter when the Heat where shooting a crazy 70%. He obviously has quickness and a great, if sometimes inconsistent, outside shot. As much as Parker stepped up his game this season, I think Terry really did too. Parker is a better PG for the Spurs, although a backcourt of Devin Harris and Tony Parker in would be

[FromWayDowntown]

My God! The ridiculously uninformed statements about Tony Parker drive me crazy. The kid is already one of the best points in the NBA. He's working his ass off to improve himself every summer.

He's become one of the few players in the league that forces teams have change gameplans to have any hope of keeping him in check.

He's been absolutely vital to 2 championship runs, and the two seasons of the last four in which he didn't play for a le, the team he's lead has been eliminated by the slimmest of margins.

It's cliched to say he "disappears" at playoff time. It's almost like some sort of war cry for Parker doubters and Parker haters to shout anytime someone suggests that Tony Parker might actually be a damned fine player. I find it ridiculous. He's had some bad playoff games; but so has Tim Duncan, so has Manu Ginobili, so has Dirk Nowitzki -- just about any player who gets into a lot of playoff games has a bad one here or there. At that, the stories about Parker are overblown. In the 2005 Finals -- supposed to be one of Tony's great collapses, he was consistent from game-to-game in Games 1-6, shooting within a shot or two of 50% every night and scoring between 12-21 points every night:

Game 1: 7-17 (.412), 3 assists, 12 points
Game 2: 6-9 (.667), 2 assists, 12 points
Game 3: 8-16 (.500), 4 assists, 21 points
Game 4: 6-13 (.467), 4 assists, 12 points
Game 5: 7-15 (.467), 3 assists, 14 points
Game 6: 7-15 (.467), 5 assists, 15 points
Game 7: 3-11 (.273), 3 assists, 8 points

Tony didn't play an efficient or effective offensive game in Game 7, but he was right on the mark with his regular season numbers for that series, against Chauncey Billups and Lindsey Hunter, who aren't exactly defensive slouches.

Or the 2004 series with LA. Another great Tony Parker disappearance? I'm not so sure I'd agree with that. Parker didn't shoot the ball with great efficiency after Game 2, but in 4 of the 6 games of that series, including two games after the drastic change in the Lakers' defense, he exceeded his season averages in points and in 5 of the 6 games he matched or exceeded his season averages in assists:

Game 1: 8-19 (.421), 9 assists, 20 points
Game 2: 13-23 (.565), 5 assists, 30 points
Game 3: 4-12 (.333), 5 assists, 8 points
Game 4: 7-18 (.389), 8 assists, 18 points
Game 5: 7-23 (.304), 6 assists, 15 points
Game 6: 4-18 (.222), 3 assists, 9 points

Again, did he have a couple of bad games? Sure. He was playing, at 22 or 23 years old, against a team filled with Hall of Fame players. He was good enough at that point to command a complete change in that team's defensive structure and even then, he managed to score the ball and get his teammates involved in Games 4 and 5.

Pointing to the fact that he struggled in Games 4-6 of the 2003 Finals seems, to me, a bit unfair, if only because: (1) he was fantastic in Games 1-3 of that series (24-52 (.462), 5.3 apg, 21.0 ppg) and forced a major defensive change from the Nets; and (2) he may have actually suc bed to the pressure of his first Finals, at age 20 or 21; other than Magic Johnson, it's difficult to come up with many kids who played as well in a Finals series at that age as Tony Parker did. Gosh, I can see why some would get on Parker about that -- it's a terrible disappointment that Tony Parker isn't as great as Magic Johnson!!

I will say again what I've said elsewhere: Spurs fans who bash Tony Parker or want him traded are spoiled rotten. Tony Parker is here and should remain here because he's a phenomenal talent who has shown great poise in many tough situations. On top of that, he may have as much upside (still) as any point guard in the NBA. If he connects the dots on that jumper, he'll basically become unguardable for a few years. And, as Kori's often-recited numbers demonstrate, he's shown that he's getting closer and closer to making that happen. If you really want to trade that kid away and get back something that has both a shorter shelf life and less upside, I'll just say that I'm glad that you aren't Gregg Popovich.

[1Parker1]

^ as Always.

Perhaps we need to switch screen names, you and I.

[1Parker1]

Also, I am still confounded by the whole "Speedy Claxton" love that many people around here have.

[strangeweather]

I will say again what I've said elsewhere: Spurs fans who bash Tony Parker or want him traded are spoiled rotten. Tony Parker is here and should remain here because he's a phenomenal talent who has shown great poise in many tough situations. On top of that, he may have as much upside (still) as any point guard in the NBA. If he connects the dots on that jumper, he'll basically become unguardable for a few years. And, as Kori's often-recited numbers demonstrate, he's shown that he's getting closer and closer to making that happen. If you really want to trade that kid away and get back something that has both a shorter shelf life and less upside, I'll just say that I'm glad that you aren't Gregg Popovich.

Terrific post.

There's only one scenario where I could imagine being in favor of trading Tony. If a team like Detroit decided they weren't going to be a contender anymore and wanted to blow the team up and get younger, I could imagine doing something like Parker for Chauncey. The theory would be to get the guy who's at the pinnacle of his career at the same time Duncan is, and potential be damned. A trade like that might make sense.

But I sure don't see any Chaunceys on the block, and I can't think of any other reason to ship Tony out.