Reply With Quote
the nfl has been marketing its teams over stars for quite a while now, while the nba has marketed stars. it's not that easy to switch marketing strats immediately.
Correct me if I am wrong....but isn't basketball a team sport too?
Why can't the league market teams then?
the nfl has been marketing its teams over stars for quite a while now, while the nba has marketed stars. it's not that easy to switch marketing strats immediately.
You can tell the NFL isn't trying to market individuals by just looking at all the celebration rules they created in response to TO's and Chad Johnson's TD dances....
It's probably been said a hundred times in this thread already, but Bob Costas was the best play by play man in any sport.
That was my whole point. The NFL markets teams, and has the biggest following of any of the pro sports in the U.S., outside of the NCAA Final Four.Correct me if I am wrong....but isn't basketball a team sport too?
Why can't the league market teams then?
Meanwhile, Stern keeps pimping individual players who never make it to the Finals. Then him and his corporate suits sit up in NY and wonder why their ratings suck for the Finals.
There is no Jordan in this league anymore, and the league needs to recognize that and adjust their marketing accordingly.
Didn't read the whole thread.....but the article didn't mention this.
Rating are way up compare to last season final 1st gameacross three major age & gender group. Thats the good news for sponsors and abc. Ofcourse Miami and Dallas are bigger market so thats help also since it has more population.
He's on Cars, his name is Bob Cutlass.
Also after he called out Stern the last day NBC had NBA I doubt we will ever see him again.
thats was me watching my name is earl.
There's one thing Cuban has the right idea on. One thing that feels missing from the NBA recently is true team rivalries. The whole Pistons/Bulls of the past, etc.
Now, nothing has that sort of emotional draw.
In the NFL, that's one of the reasons the Cowboys have such a large national following. 3 of the most famous rivalries in the NFL involve the cowboys.
Marketting teams will give you a hardcore fan base. Marketting individuals gives you casual fans and bandwagoners.
The NBA should continue to market the top stars, but put more effort into marketting teams and rivalries.
Yeah... but that's not what you said. At all.
Nice attempt at a recovery. You probably should have at least edited your previous post to make it slightly more believable.
And ending your posts with a cute little remark like "Try again, kiddo" really gives you an aura of intelligence. Next time why don't you go with a "Slick one, Ace" or perhaps even a "Good work, governor"
.
Last edited by DubMcDub; 06-11-2006 at 02:57 PM.
Next time I will point out when I am being sarcastic (perhaps in blue and in italics). I was well aware of the Spurs' origins before it was pointed out again and again during broadcasts of every Spurs' le run since 1999.
This is what happens when you jump in the middle of a conversation you were not a part of and attempt to run a forum that you haven't been a member of.
I'm not going to edit my posts to make up for your inability to comprehend sarcasm.
I'll let you worry about that, Deputy Dog. Though I'll give it up to you for being the most boorish and clueless troll in here.And ending your posts with a cute little remark like "Try again, kiddo" really gives you an aura of intelligence
Awww, somebody wants me to leave.
As for "jumping in on the middle of a conversation", I wasn't aware that the dynamics of an internet message board lent credence to such an idea. Correct me if I'm wrong ( , I'm sure you'll make a pathetic attempt to correct me even if I'm right), but I was under the impression that the entirety of your "conversation" is instantly available to anyone reading this thread.
Attempting to use the "you just didn't understand the context of our discussion" on a self-contained internet message board thread is ridiculous. It doesn't surprise me that you're trying to invoke that argument, though, given the mental capacity that you've displayed recently.
I don't care if you stay or leave. If you can't comprehend sarcasm that's not my fault. As for your intellect I'd say you have a rather inflated sense of its worth. Your insults mean very little for me and I have no doubt that your life's accomplishments pale in comparison to mine. So feel free to keep the insults coming. They just make me laugh, RubADub.
Yes, Dubby, Marcus is well aware of the Spurs' history.
One obvious problem with the ratings is the scheduling. 9PM ET and every game is on Tues, Thurs, or Sunday. How idiotic is that? First off, there is no west coast team in the series, why the 9 PM start times? And how about 9 PM on a FRIDAY night, when most people don't have to work the next morning? How about a Sunday game with a reasonable start time such as 3-6PM?
If Stern is setting this schedule, which would not surprise me, what a bag!
Ratings are fine...well, at least now that the Spurs are not playing the Finals...
It's set by ABC's scheduling needs, and IIRC, they did the same thing last year.
Also, 9pm EST was the traditional start time for MNF, as well. You get most of prime time on the east coast, and you start at 6pm PST, so it's not while most people on the West Coast are still at work.
Keeping the same start time on Sunday night kind of mystifies me as well.
They know 60 Minutes will kick their ass....
me too, i kept flipping to the game at commercials. my brother's gf likes that show, and it was kinda funny.
I love Team USA
As for the problems with the Finals (as a whole), here are some reasons ratings are low:
1. If you're not a fan of the 2 teams chances are its boring. Yes, there might be a few good plays or even some great games. But, unless you just adore basketball its boring.
2. They don't try to bring you tons of cool new commercials like they do with the Superbowl.
3. It can be anywhere from 4 to 7 games. So what if you miss games 1, 2, and maybe even 3. The team that won those three or 2 out of three might lose the series, or even worse, the series may be so boring that its going to be a sweep and be over in 4.
4. There's no Jordan. Granted, this is a stupid reason, but given the obsession that the media, the NBA, and the world as a whole have with Jordan, this is a problem. Several of the NBA Finals commercials still have Jordan in them. Now if I'm a completely clueless ordinary person who doesn't watch basketball on a regular basis, and I saw these commercials and then tuned into the Finals, I'd quickly be disappointed and change the channel.
5. The NBA doesn't do a very good job of marketing the teams that usually make it to the finals. We saw Lebron and Kobe on national TV several times this season, but who honestly thought they'd be in the finals?
6. ABC sucks. Yes, that is all. They might as well have let ESPN do all of the coverage of the finals this year. That would have made more sense. People were used to having a friday night ESPN game during the season, not a Sunday night ABC game. ABC did (and has for the past few years) a crap job of covering the season and even the playoffs. Hardly any of the first few playoff games were on ABC. If they had wanted people to watch, they would have needed for them to get used to tuning into ABC for basketball. This year because of the lack of ABC coverage, people were in the habit of watching basketball on ESPN. The Finals just screwed all of that up.
7. Hubie needs to go away. He's a dinasour. Older than time itself, and guess what? HE'S BORING. I'd rather sit and stare at the wall in an all white room by myself than listen to him.
8. Excessive shots of useless people. Nobody cares to see Eva Longoria's reaction to everything, or Mark Cuban's, Jack Nicholson's. The only thing showing Eva's face is good for is doing cross-promotion with the Finals and Desperate Housewives, but as that show is already getting good ratings, its not that necessary. However, having the Finals as a lead in to DH would be a smart thing. Why you may ask? Because if say the game started at 5:30 and DH normally came on at 8, theres a pretty good chance of the game still being on at 8. Of course at about 7:55 or so, you need to put up some sort of information bar on the screen saying, DH will be on immediately follwing the game. People who normally tune into DH at 8, will flip their tvs on to ABC to see their favorite show, and instead of changing it, they will probably leave it on for the last few minutes so that they don't miss their beloved shows.
Excuse me for jumping into your "private conversation, but isn't what you said the other way around? Basically, you have ended most of your posts with " " or immature comments to try and overrun people with your so called intellect. I know this is very late, but your posts are always the same, so the late part is overshadowed.
Yeah, he doesn't quite get it.
That's okay, though, because his "life accomplishments" are definitely much greater than mine or yours.
Sparcus is imperious and pompous by nature.
He is also a Spurfan of the first order, so you have to accept it.
I have.
What a loser.
Well, when you have an 80 year old man, pale as a ghost, commenting and doing the play by play, I would think ratings wouldn't be that high.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions