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Well, if you believe that the NBA is anything comparable to the WWE, then you are a moron IMO.
I'm just curious. You seemed to be pretty adament that people that think the league is rigged should not watch. See my wrestling analogy.
Well, if you believe that the NBA is anything comparable to the WWE, then you are a moron IMO.
I never said that. The analagy pertains to people that watch wrestling. Learn to read.
So, do you think that people who believe that the NBA is rigged and still watch anyways are morons?
Excellent question! Anyone that voted "yes" is an IDIOT.
A list of the idiots, all 16 of them: ALVAREZ6, awmyplace, Bob Lanier, BruceBowenFan, Buck Rogers, crgassoc, Darrin, davi78239, djordan26, East Coast Babe, Lp26, Mavs_man_41, mffl89, NBA Junkie, Phil muth, SA Gunslinger
I'm just curious about idiots.
No, if they still find it entertaining than so be it. Like I said if they bet on the games and think they are rigged they are morons.
How about watch it, think it is rigged, root their asses off for a team, and and complain like crazy when their team losses? Rooting for a sport they think is rigged could be the defenition of idiot. And then ing about it when it doesn't go their way, might be symptomatic of borderline re ed.
That I will agree with.
I'll try and remember those names, because there is no sense in even discussing anything NBA related with them if they truly believe that the NBA is rigged like pro wrestling. Truly pathetic.
I'll try and remember those names, because there is no sense in even discussing anything NBA related with them if they truly believe that the NBA is rigged like pro wrestling. Truly pathetic.
Since my name is on this list, just let me say that at this moment I do not have NBATV on my TV, nor do I have TNT on my TV nor will I have them. I will not turn on ABC for basketball unless it is college basketball. I have no season tickets, nor do I intend to buy them and I have no individual game tickets, nor do I intend to buy them. I love basketball and not watching hurts! But I hate the rigging going on! Even a little is wrong to me. At this rate all of the teams in smaller markets have no chance of getting to the Finals and I think that is a sorry state of affairs. They must know that at the beginning of the playoffs. Games should be called as fairly as possible with the most adept officials calling those games. When there are enough of us complaining about it, or enough players complaining about it, it will change. As you know from writing on this forum, there is strength in numbers.
P.S. Stern's office will hear from me in the next week or two.
I think that New York does give a about the Nets if the team is planning a move to Brooklyn within the next three years. According to your logic, does this mean that New Yorkers don't give a about the Giants and Jets because they play in East Rutherford?
I still disagree with your assessment that the Suns-Cavaliers would draw huge ratings had they played in the Finals. Just because ESPN builds up Lebron James doesn't necessarily mean that the fans are buying the hype. It's gonna take more than just one postseason for people to sit up and take notice of Lebron. He's nowhere close to the aura that Jordan created. If you think he is, and that his presence can rival ratings that MJ's Bulls created, then you're the one who's crazy here. Also, casual observers still view the NBA as a low scoring boring product and are still not tuning in because of it. Yeah, scoring is up, but this is not something that's gonna change the fans perception of the game overnight.
Like I said, I think the league is mostly on the up and up. However, until I see two legitimate small market teams like Utah-Indiana or Sacramento-Milwaukee duking it out in the NBA Finals, there's a part of me that remains skeptical. I still love the game and will continue to enjoy the product. If that makes me an idiot, then so be it.
I can guarantee that if this wasn't a public poll and you didn't call out all of us so-called idiots, that the number would definitely be higher than 16. As it is, most who believe in certain fixes will not vote for fear of being tarred and feathered.
Post all you want. I still respect someone's opinion whether I agree/disagree with them.
You, along with most of America, must not have been watching in 2003. Somebody did a segment where they went shopping in New York for Nets gear, and nobody stocked any. This was during the NBA finals. There were a lot of news stories about it.
NY will care about them if they move to Brooklyn. They don't care about them as long as they're in NJ though.
I watched every game of the 2003 NBA Finals that year. I just didn't see the segment you described. Frankly, I don't watch ESPN Sportscenter anymore. It's seems to be more about comedy than it is about actual sports reporting.
Just so you know, that's like saying the city of Dallas will start caring about the Rangers when they move to Euless. I wonder if the gate has improved for the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim". How about just going back to the ABA name and alienate everyone from Jersey?
I wasn't trying to be critical. Just letting you know that it was a fairly common story. I wouldn't have believed that the Nets would have gotten so little support either.
I don't even think that there were rumblings of the Nets moving to Brooklyn at that time, even if there were do you really believe that New Yorkers actually adopted that team before they even knew that they would be getting them? No way.I think that New York does give a about the Nets if the team is planning a move to Brooklyn within the next three years. According to your logic, does this mean that New Yorkers don't give a about the Giants and Jets because they play in East Rutherford?
I still disagree with your assessment that the Suns-Cavaliers would draw huge ratings had they played in the Finals. Just because ESPN builds up Lebron James doesn't necessarily mean that the fans are buying the hype. It's gonna take more than just one postseason for people to sit up and take notice of Lebron. He's nowhere close to the aura that Jordan created. If you think he is, and that his presence can rival ratings that MJ's Bulls created, then you're the one who's crazy here. Also, casual observers still view the NBA as a low scoring boring product and are still not tuning in because of it. Yeah, scoring is up, but this is not something that's gonna change the fans perception of the game overnight.
Like I said, I think the league is mostly on the up and up. However, until I see two legitimate small market teams like Utah-Indiana or Sacramento-Milwaukee duking it out in the NBA Finals, there's a part of me that remains skeptical. I still love the game and will continue to enjoy the product. If that makes me an idiot, then so be it.
I never once compared Jordan to LeBron, I never even mentioned Jordan's name in this whole conversation, so why do you keep bringing MJ up as if I did? I think that LeBron is the biggest star in the NBA right now, at least he was in the 2nd round before Wade went off in the finals, so do you really think that the biggest star in the NBA would hurt the ratings in the finals? No way. Do you really think that the Suns would get worse ratings than the Mavs? I think the Suns would get better ratings.
Jordan gets brought up since you keep insisting that ratings would go through the roof if James and the Cavs were in the Finals. The last time I checked, the ratings were through the roof when Jordan's Bulls were making their routine finals appearances in the 90's. Either you're exaggerating your point or you and I have different interpretations of what great really means.
I'm not saying that James' appearance in the finals would boost ratings. It's likely. I'm saying that he has yet to develop the type of cult following that the other stars (Bird, Magic, Jordan) enjoyed during their heydays in the league. Phoenix may resemble a high scoring team from the '80's, but that team lacks a true star that is going to generate a casual fan's interest. And, that is the audience that the league is trying to attract. It's a no-brainer that the diehard fans will tune in regardless of match-ups. Even then, that is a small audience compared to those fans that follow the NFL or MLB.
We're just going to have to disagree on the Nets being a part of the New York landscape. It's just a case of them being the ugly stepsister of the area. The Knicks have a much more storied NBA history in that area which, in turn, forces the Nets to take a backseat to them. It's much like the situation the Clippers have in LA as they are greatly overshadowed by the presence of the Lakers.
At any rate, I'm through talking about this. I've said all I needed to say. If I or anyone else is that much of an idiot in regards to a "fix" being in place, perhaps I should suggest you putting us on your ignore list so you're not subjected to such ramblings.
And pass up more chances to ridicule you tinfoil-hatters?If I or anyone else is that much of an idiot in regards to a "fix" being in place, perhaps I should suggest you putting us on your ignore list so you're not subjected to such ramblings.
Not a chance.
I don't think it's rigged. I just think the refs manage to suck ass at very inopportune times.
the league isint rigged,piston fans and their clasless underdong,insensitive,unsportmanship criminal at udes make it somewhat rigged...but hey why worry the pistons diabolical fluke is over.
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