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a long 3 let's just play Finley at PF and Tim at center, i like that idea alot.
67% last year to 62% this year.
a long 3 let's just play Finley at PF and Tim at center, i like that idea alot.
i watched the wizards-cleveland series and i thought he did a pretty good job on Das far as i remember...
he has the size to bother Dirk and the speed... (dirk ain't all that fast) that's why i want him on the team...
PLUS he can rebound the ball better than bruce... he'll be able to box out Dirk and get the rebound something the spurs didn't do (bruce was boxing out but dirk just hawks the ball on top). im telling you if we ever meet the mavs again in the playoffs his presence would really help!
What is Bowen's per 40 minutes? With the starters and other shooters we have, we don't need another 10pts/game.
We need a young perimeter defender to replace an aging veteran who has maybe 1-2 good years left. And transitioning from a 6'7" perimeter defender to a 6'11 one would be huge.
Sorry I'm late to the party on this discussion, but come on... Stephen Jackson averaged 2 points per game before he came to the Spurs, and he was our third scorer for that le run.
Just admit you don't know anything about hoops other than you can copy and paste from ESPN and move on.
Not only did SJax average 2 points per game but his first season here between him and Charles Smith, SJax was the lesser player. He really blossomed here...
timvp is he better then nothing?
I guess so.
Though Nothing could probably shoot better.
we should just throw the whole MLE at him, and if wiz re-signs him at a higher price, then good for them, bad for us we didnt sign him, but good in another way forcin the wiz overpay a player.
I've been through this already on this thread and others. Bowen is a deadly shooter from the corners so you can't leave him completely unguarded and he doesn't force you to go 4 on 5 on offense. Besides he is an all time great defender not a decent one. Jackson didn't have much playing time before he got to SA unlike Jeffries who has proven with plenty of pt that he is a complete scrub. He has no impressive offensive or defensive stats whatsoever none, zero, zip, zilch, nada name one stat that stands out. He can't shoot free throws either. I am done with this because he isn't coming here so I really don't care. I don't get worked up about every scrub in the league just the ones on the Spurs. If I thought he was really going to come here then I'd be pissed, but now I don't care. Aggie if you want to take your problems with me over to the troll forum I'd be happy to do it.
earlier thread with a post about the myth of Jeffries "Great" defense:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...1&page=2&pp=26
CLICK HERE^^^
Last edited by Quadzilla99; 07-05-2006 at 06:48 AM.
Jeffries avg.10 points per 40 minutes because of a man named Gilbert Arenas, Antwain Jamison, and Caron Butler chucking up 47 shots per game. Don't forget Antonio Daniels and Jarvis Hayes.Jeffries shot a modest 5 shots per game last year. Shooting the ball was not Jeffries role.
Jeffries looks like the kind of guy who could really excel in the Spurs system - he doesn't NEED to be an offensive threat or make anything other than layups, but he does need to be a good defender and a good rebounder. If he could come cheaply (ie without giving up Barry or Finley - Beno or Oberto are expendable at this point) than he could be a good pick up.
Good news: Jul 6 - The Orlando Sentinel reports the Washington Wizards have emerged among three suitors as perhaps the front-runner for DeShawn Stevenson. Rob Pelinka, Stevenson's agent, told the newspaper Wednesday that three teams other than the Magic are in the hunt, and two have made offers.
Hopefully this means the Wiz are unlikely to match an offer for Jeffries because signing Stevenson would put them very close to the luxary tax threshold.
Well I think it should be said that Bowen DEVELOPED an effective offensive game. When he first started playing here, he was a non-factor on the offensive end. Now maybe he just needed a chance, or maybe he needed an offensive scheme that fit his style of play. When all you have is the MLE, you are going to get flawed players. Jeffries, IMO, has the tools to be an effective player in the Spurs system. But he is far from perfect, which is why we have a shot at landing him in the first place.
One of the glaring weaknesses that was exposed during the WCSF series versus the Mavs was the Spurs' lack of athleticism and quickness on the perimeter. While Bowen did a good job of guarding Dirk, he is at a disadvantage guarding him in the post.
Meanwhile, Terry, Harris and others got by Spurs defenders semmingly at will. When another Mavs player got hot offensively, Pop often resorted to switching Bowen off Dirk to go and guard the "hot Mav de jour". With no shot-blocking presence to protect the paint, this deficiency became more glaring.
It becomes clear that Bowen, while still a premier all-NBA defender, he cannot guard every offensive threat on the floor. He needs help - a lot of help.
After the season ended, Pop stated his intention of acquiring, in his words, a "Derrick McKey-type" player. A player of length around 6-9 or 6-10 that can rebound, run and is a versatile defender.
It sounds like Jared Jeffries may fit this bill. As has already been stated, we don't need a lot of offense from the guy. If he can bring some rebounding, toughness and defense (while matching up with Dirk), it will allow Bowen to focus his efforts on his usual superior defense on the many athletic swingmen in the league.
It becomes clear that Bowen, while still a premier all-NBA defender, he cannot guard every offensive threat on the floor.
I have often thought this while watching Spurs games. No really - the thought often enters my mind - why the can't we clone Bowen and have two of him on the floor at one time?
If so many teams are after Jeffries, the Spurs should go after Jumaine Jones if they want a backup 3. He's shorter (6'8) but can do some things that Jeffries can't do, and it doesn't seem like he's drawing that much interest.
Good option. Any word on whether Jones in drawing any interest at all?
I like this option too. The Spurs need about two good role players. He would be one.
Awhile back, I read Phoenix was interested. I haven't read up on him lately.
Jeffries, Wizards reach impasse on deal
By John N. Mitc
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 7, 2006
http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20...5734-4704r.htm
Negotiations between the Washington Wizards and restricted free agent Jared Jeffries have reached an impasse and no new negotiations are scheduled, according to Jeffries' agent.
"I would characterize the talks as both sides making an effort, but as of today it looks as if those efforts have been futile," agent Andy Miller said yesterday.
'We have spoken frequently. Jared likes Washington and the role that he has carved out there. The problem is because he is selfless and sacrifices for everyone on the team and does the intangibles, it's unfortunate but the role seems to be one not as valued as much as he would like."
Jeffries' worth to the team is the apparent sticking point. The Wizards' position appears to be that while Jeffries played an important role -- one in which he started 77 games and averaged 6.4 points and 4.9 rebounds -- they have no intentions of overpaying him. As a restricted free agent the Wizards can match any offer Jeffries receives.
The Wizards, at least for now, don't appear to be interested in doing a sign-and-trade, despite that fact that Philadelphia and Phoenix are believed to have approached the Wizards, who already have tendered Jeffries the required one-year qualifying offer.
Miller's position is that Jeffries' value to the Wizards is higher than what it is for other teams because he knows the system well. The 6-foot-11 Jeffries played all five positions last season.
"He wants to do something that he will be happy with over the next five years," Miller said.
In another development, the Orlando Sentinel reported that the Wizards have become the front runner for Magic shooting guard DeShawn Stevenson, who started all 82 games for the Magic last season.
Stevenson opted out of the final year of his contract to become an unrestricted free agent. Stevenson is seeking more than the $3 million he was scheduled to make this season.
The Sentinel reported that Stevenson is looking to earn $4.5 million this season in the first year of what the player would like to be a four- or five-year contract. Stevenson averaged 11.0 points and 2.9 rebounds a game last season.
Barry for Jeffries?
Nah ... it doesn't really make sense for the Wizards. With the ballhogs on that team, Barry would average like 1 point per 48 minutes.
Perhaps throwing in Scola will make them ponder the deal. They went with two Euros in the draft ... even though both of them are staying overseas. Give them Scola and then they can have three Euro prospects to pick from next year.
Longshot but who knows . . .
Still no update on this?
That's just dandy.
Only because the puss doesn't like the pressure of shooting....With the ballhogs on that team, Barry would average like 1 point per 48 minutes
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