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    As long as Ian is a bust with a cheap short term contract then its a steal for the spurs front office

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    Butler and Woods and a project backup PG and call it an off season.

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    Betcha Zo was just being polite (acting interested in joining a team after 13 years with the current World Champs). Polite is nice.

    Mourning: "I'm on such a high right now," he said. "I'm really enjoying the moment. I'm not thinking about basketball right now."
    I'd heard there was strong interest from several teams in Zo. I think he was just playing it out to get the biggest offer he could from the Heat. He's not going anywhere if he decides not to retire (sounds like he's gonna play again).

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    Viable inexpensive option. I have no problem with the thinking.

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    spurs refused to get ZO when KiDD wanted him
    and that is why kidd is a net today
    It wasn't that they didn't want Zo, it was that they didn't want him for 5 million a year.

    And in retrospect, thank God that didn't happen, Kidd has done nothing but gone down hill since.

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    gooden could guard dirk effectively just like haslem . What am i ing about anyway spurs won't get gooden. Cavs will match anything between 5-8 million.
    Manu4Tres, you don't get it. Gooden sucks defensively. He couldn't guard my grandma on the low block, let alone any decent offensive player in the league.

    Would any Spurs fan be against a Barry for Haywood swap? That trade makes a lot of sense, especially considering the Wizards have been looking for a SG and it would save the Spurs some money.
    Actually it makes a lot of sense, especially given how Pecherov has been doing on their summer league team so far.

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    Us trying to go after ing ZO??? Ughhhhh God this team is ing stupid now no offense to zo but we dont need him because he isnt a ing starter. Well its time to realize and accept our le runs are over and done with! This just put the icing on the cake with that sign of desperation. I feel so bad for Duncan as his ing prime is getting pissed away by these ing pricks!!! to our coach and front office since May 2006 and they deserve every single bit of it!!
    What the is your problem? We're not looking for a center to go out and average 20, 10, and 5. We're looking for someone to rebound and block shots, and Zo would have been perfect in that role.

    Damn, put down the ing keyboard, go find a cliff, and get it over with.

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    Javtokas should be starting at least by next year. At least we're not sure, but he definitely has the tools to start. Mahinmi could be sliding in behind him in the rotation by the time Oberto's contract is up.
    Man, a lot of people sure are overvaluing Javtokas. How many games have you seen him play? I guarantee the Spurs front office has seen him play more than you, and they don't think he's starter quality.

    Typical Spurstalk, overhyping one of our foreign draftees into the next Spur Hall of Famer...

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    What the is your problem? We're not looking for a center to go out and average 20, 10, and 5. We're looking for someone to rebound and block shots, and Zo would have been perfect in that role.

    Damn, put down the ing keyboard, go find a cliff, and get it over with.
    Yeah, Zo would have been a perfect fit for the Spurs. I'm damn glad y'all didn't get him. I don't know if the Heat beat the Mavs w/o him. I know they don't win game 6 w/o Zo.

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    The Spurs have no clue. Mourning is old and ready to retire.
    we got three trophies that say you got no clue

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    Man, a lot of people sure are overvaluing Javtokas. How many games have you seen him play? I guarantee the Spurs front office has seen him play more than you, and they don't think he's starter quality.

    Typical Spurstalk, overhyping one of our foreign draftees into the next Spur Hall of Famer...
    Did I say he was a Hall of Famer, you idiot? I said he has the tools to be a good starter.

    The Spurs FO damn well think he is starter quality or else they wouldn't have traded Rasho, let Nazr walk, and low-balled Przybilla. They just don't think he's starter material yet. He has the tools at least to be a Stephen Hunter in this league. That's objectively obvious and, really, not that hard to do.

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    What the is your problem? We're not looking for a center to go out and average 20, 10, and 5. We're looking for someone to rebound and block shots, and Zo would have been perfect in that role.

    Damn, put down the ing keyboard, go find a cliff, and get it over with.
    That's the part of all of the complaining that I don't get.

    Other than maybe Ben Wallace, there isn't an available center who can be a difference-maker. The Spurs weren't going to get Ben Wallace. So what's left is a group of guys who bring a variety of skills and tools to the table, but none of whom is ever likely to be an All-Star or much more than a servicable role-player for the duration of his next contract (even Pryzbilla). Why spend money and get tied down long term to a guy who will never be anything more than marginal or slightly above-average at best?

    The Spurs decided last year that centers that move at glacial pace -- guys who aren't particularly athletic and don't tend to do a lot of things really, really well -- don't fit well with the core of the current team in the context of the rest of the NBA. Pop didn't try it against Dallas, because Sacramento proved it in the First Round. So, in the offseason, it makes sense that the goal, other than making a run for Ben Wallace, is to find players who have more athleticism than Rasho or Nazr and who can at least provide that to this team at the center spot. If its Jarron Collins or Brendan Haywood or Lorenzen Wright or whomever else, the point is that the Spurs are seeking center-types who can move around and do some things that allow them to be productive enough on the glass to stay on the floor against more athletic teams, while providing some resistance against the handful of traditional centers who are in the league.

    It's not about being cheap, it's about being smart.

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    That's the part of all of the complaining that I don't get.

    Other than maybe Ben Wallace, there isn't an available center who can be a difference-maker. The Spurs weren't going to get Ben Wallace. So what's left is a group of guys who bring a variety of skills and tools to the table, but none of whom is ever likely to be an All-Star or much more than a servicable role-player for the duration of his next contract (even Pryzbilla). Why spend money and get tied down long term to a guy who will never be anything more than marginal or slightly above-average at best?

    The Spurs decided last year that centers that move at glacial pace -- guys who aren't particularly athletic and don't tend to do a lot of things really, really well -- don't fit well with the core of the current team in the context of the rest of the NBA. Pop didn't try it against Dallas, because Sacramento proved it in the First Round. So, in the offseason, it makes sense that the goal, other than making a run for Ben Wallace, is to find players who have more athleticism than Rasho or Nazr and who can at least provide that to this team at the center spot. If its Jarron Collins or Brendan Haywood or Lorenzen Wright or whomever else, the point is that the Spurs are seeking center-types who can move around and do some things that allow them to be productive enough on the glass to stay on the floor against more athletic teams, while providing some resistance against the handful of traditional centers who are in the league.

    It's not about being cheap, it's about being smart.
    Yeah, that's what they need. Diop in Dallas is a good example of the type of center the Spurs need. Diop made all the difference in the Dallas/Phoenix series cuz he was athletic enough to be able to stay on the court, yet he's somewhat capable of guarding bigger, slower centers (other than Shaq).

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    Hey Shaggy,

    heres the in rope.

    Go swing from the shower rod already. ........

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    Hey Shaggy,

    heres the in rope.

    Go swing from the shower rod already. ........
    Just took the words right outta my mouth. Dude, Shaggy, you need to shut up already. It says you are a Spurs fan but you talk nothing but about them. I'm getting tired of you. If you're really a Spurs fan act like it. Right now you're acting like you're a Mavs fan. So get your act together or everybody's gonna be hating on you. Is your job being a professional pessimist or what?

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    we didnt blow money on Pryzbilla

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHH

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    Ignore list works for me. I just wish that feature didn't show their posts at all, instead of just hiding them within the thread. I also wish people would stop ING QUOTING HIS POSTS, Dammit!!!

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    we didnt blow money on Pryzbilla

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHH

    Well, wait a second -- the Spurs were willing to "blow money" on Przybilla, just not another year's worth of money.

    I don't understand the hand-wringing about cheapness when those who complain are mostly talking about throwing money at anyone, regardless of that player's quality. But the Spurs must have believed that Przybilla was enough above the average to warrant making a market price offer (MLE) for a period of several years. Wanting to hedge their bet by limiting the length of that contract seems like a smart move by a franchise that just got burned on a long and expensive contract for an underperforming center.

    I'm not sure why some question the decision-making in being reluctant to overspend for players who are most likely not going to be able to justify big contracts. I guess it just sets those people up to complain in a couple of years about how a contract was unwise and has handcuffed the franchise.

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    BUT FWD

    if you don't blow money stupidly.

    Your cheap.

    Plain and simple.

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    As long as Ian is a bust with a cheap short term contract then its a steal for the spurs front office
    why don't you save yourself the time of typing the same thing over and over, and us the time of having to scroll past your posts. your front office blathering can be summed up with this:

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    Just took the words right outta my mouth. Dude, Shaggy, you need to shut up already. It says you are a Spurs fan but you talk nothing but about them. I'm getting tired of you. If you're really a Spurs fan act like it. Right now you're acting like you're a Mavs fan. So get your act together or everybody's gonna be hating on you. Is your job being a professional pessimist or what?
    So I cant criticize them?? I am not a spurs fan if I dog them like they deserve at the moment? I love the spurs but right now I am going to be like this till they ing do something! When/If they do something then maybe MAYBE I will start to be confident in them again. I just think it is really stupid to defend them right now when they havent dont a damn thing!

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    What the is your problem? We're not looking for a center to go out and average 20, 10, and 5. We're looking for someone to rebound and block shots, and Zo would have been perfect in that role.

    Damn, put down the ing keyboard, go find a cliff, and get it over with.
    I dont want a superstar type of center but Zo cant play heavy minutes anymore! That is the type of center I want as well a person who does the dirty work and is an enforcer/agressive player in the paint

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    Hey Shaggy,

    heres the in rope.

    Go swing from the shower rod already. ........
    Ummmm whatever the that means . "If the Spurs stop being cheap I will not post for a year" comon Tpark say it I know you want to

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    So I cant criticize them?? I am not a spurs fan if I dog them like they deserve at the moment? I love the spurs but right now I am going to be like this till they ing do something! When/If they do something then maybe MAYBE I will start to be confident in them again. I just think it is really stupid to defend them right now when they havent dont a damn thing!
    Well, judging by the article about Zo, they are doing something, so why don't you shut up and see what happens?


    I dont want a superstar type of center but Zo cant play heavy minutes anymore! That is the type of center I want as well a person who does the dirty work and is an enforcer/agressive player in the paint
    David Robinson couldn't play heavy minutes his last year either, why don't you go about that?

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    why don't you save yourself the time of typing the same thing over and over, and us the time of having to scroll past your posts. your front office blathering can be summed up with this:

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