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why are we not going after wright or ely instead these guys I believe are not even restricted. These are not that good either but better than what Elson and Butler for sure.
New York already has 15 players under contract, i believe.
why are we not going after wright or ely instead these guys I believe are not even restricted. These are not that good either but better than what Elson and Butler for sure.
Ely is restricted.
Javaktovas wasn't going to start. Have you read one thing Ludden has put out this summer saying the Spurs thought he could start? Doesnn't it make you wonder one bit just how good the kid is when on a centerless team a center can't start?
Kurt is absolutely right. Spurs fans on this board have overrated him. You can ask anyone who's watched a game of his as opposed to the highlight reel that was posted.
I wanted him to come, but I am pretty damn sure Butler > Javaktovas.
I am not worried due to the fact that our core players will be there and these role players we are getting all amped up about!!!
Duncan is one of the best players in the league, and yes he can play Center. Javtokas is an unproven player who has 0 offensive firepower.
How tall is Butler?
I'm not saying Butler isn't better than Javtokas. Although at this point Butler has barely had any NBA experience, either. Saying he's starting material is a bit daft.
What I WAS saying, is that Javtokas is by far a better prospect for the money than Francisco Elson. That's the truly bizarre, upsetting, unsettling, and stupid part. It's not a factor of overrating -- Javtokas is accomplished in Europe, has great tools, is 4 years younger, etc. Seems utterly stupid to me.
6-10
I can live with this line up: TP, Manu, Bowen, TD, Butler..
Sure, the Spurs can start the season with what they have - if they're gunning for 4th or 5th place finish. This team already did not have the right front line parts to win a championship. Now the situation has gotten worse.
Again, the idea is to improve the talent on the team. Simply dumping Rasho's contract, while a good move financially, doesn't do it. Making an offer to a scrub, like Elson, doesn't do it.
Duncan simply cannot be saddled with the responsibilities of playing the 5 spot exclusively. Unless, of course, the Spurs ante up for a big-time rebounding partner like Murphy or Evans and we all know both will be too expensive for the Spurs budget.
Maglorie is now the ugly girl at the bar. It's 2:00AM and he's starting to look very attractive.
"Javaktovas wasn't going to start."
OK, not before Christmas, but after Christmas?
Im absolutely positively shocked.....
Until we get the length of contracts and how much the contract were it is hard to argue h these deals??Maybe Elson only signed for 1-2 years and maybe JAv. wanted 4-5 year contract!!ALot of maybe's at this point an no facts
How does Javtokas get us over the hump?? Obviously, if he was as good as he's claimed to be on this site, he'd be here. Everyone needs to trust the Spurs front office decisions, they know more than we could ever possibly know.
I won't argue that I believe Elson to be greater than Javaktovas because I don't, but the quick disintergration of talks combined with the lack of a commitment from each side to say they had struck a deal seems to me that there was some kind of diagreement as to what Robertas was actually going to get in a contract.
In other words, I'm leaning torwards believing this isn't a purely basketball related decision. The dude turned around and had another deal ready. WTF?
I can only think someone in the Spurs org ed up. They were supposed to keep Jav posted -- LLE if both signed, but expected to get one, then the rest of the MLE for him.
I wonder if Mr Duncan is a little pissed about now.
Ehh....we'd have a tough time playing Miami, Houston, etc. with Butler, Elson, Oberto, and Horry.
I really get annoyed with Spurs fans and their panic modes. This team could walk in with Tpark at center and still compete for the 1st seed quite easily. It isn't as though we had an all start tandem in there for the past 2 years. Give me a damn break.
Who's selling his or her season tickets?
"Javtokas was "surprised" at the Spurs decision, but that he got a great contract from Panathinaikos."
I'd say that was a euphemism for pissed off and disappointed.
How many years is Robertas' Panathinaikos contract? amount?
I'm in no way a GM, but it, not getting Robertas TODAY! is a ing huge disappointment.
So now we got $$$ committed in RFA offers, and what if NEITHER of those guys comes?
Robertas probably feels ed over, teased, toyed with, cheated down in $$$ by the Spurs.
I hope Kori and LJ are enjoying their nap!
Javtokas is probably pissed that the Spurs are jerking around while he's practicing with his national team, without contract, risking injury.
You're also saying Butler is starting material. We don't know that yet. By all appearances he's extremely foul prone, etc. For now, he's a glorified CBA player that had some success on a wretched Knicks team.
Something did happen with Javtokas. I can't feel good about SAS fouling up their international negotiations. From here, at least, it looks amateurish or something.
"How does Javtokas get us over the hump?"
How does NOT having Javtokas get us over the hump?
The big hump stays big. RJ could have made the hump a little smaller.
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