Add another 30 yr old in Elson.
Might as well add Eric Williams who is 30some.
Udrih and Bonner are our young bucks! And neither athletic.
I got what? and you don't gotta read me . dude, I was commenting to who ever the had the balls to compare Duncan to Jordan and you replied with the typical, generic spurs fan homer response of "okay". bringing up resumes, compare the two, you little . Duncan pales in comparison.
Williams is 35, and will have no problem taking the 4.2M player option for this up coming year, after he takes the option then his expiring contract will have value to someone.
Elston is 30 (Not sure of his contract years)
A Spurs fan homer response would have been to comment that your team's collective asshole still aches from the ing it got from Timmy, and that's the reason you are still hanging around looking for opportunities to cry or fling your feces.I got what? and you don't gotta read me . dude, I was commenting to who ever the had the balls to compare Duncan to Jordan and you replied with the typical, generic spurs fan homer response of "okay
He already picked up the option before he was traded to the Spurs.
Horry (36)
Bowen (35)
Barry (35)
Williams (35)
Finley (33)
Oberto (31)
Vaughn (30)
Elston (30)
Thats the tale-of-the-tape, kind of scary if you ask me .... I don't think that many teams would take that group over whatever they have right now, there is no player on that list that has ANY upside, most are on the way down the slide.
There is nobody that the Spurs are "bringing along slowly", there is nobody that they can say "up and coming star" about.
This team is going to be all about FA signings after the elderly are gone .... look at the crop in two years and pray that it is deeper then this years crop of FAs
what the ever. you don't have to venture very far to see who is really "crying" about everything. funny you mention how dominating duncan was in that series and fail to mention that a malcontent like bonzi wells was equally as impressive in his effort against the spurs. your post reeks of ignorance.
When have I ever said that Bonzi wasn't impressive in that series? When have I ever said he didn't have talent? All I've said is that he's an underachieving contract year ham & egger who showed up for five ing games, and your team would be stupid to give him a big contract. I don't know why you think it's somehow my job to give equal time to players that did well on your team when they lost.
The Knicks don't have Duncan. If they had landed him in the lottery they would have les. You don't realize how important and lucky the spurs were to get duncan.
I like when teams are agressive in getting talent like Dallas has. They improved a weak team with agressive bold moves. If the spurs didn't have Duncan they would never have been able to turn a weak team around with the current managements philosophy.
Look at Miami Dallas phoenix NJ and Denver. They improved their teams with bold trades and fa signings and not by lottery luck. The spurs are only good by lottery luck landing Robinson and then Duncan. Management has not made any impact trades or impact fa signings.
Go back and see what they have done with FA signings and trades and they rate worse then all the other top teams. Steve Smith, Rasho, Barry, Horry, Muhammed, Claxton, Mercer/ Turk, Bowen thats about the best the spurs have gotten thru fa or trades. And thats a weak bunch.
And thats in the last few years. Compare those players with what Dallas has acquired or Miami or Denver or phoenix or NJ . And its not even close. Good thing the spurs landed duncan because the spurs have either passed on good trades or made a trade where they got a player for only one year or made bad fa signings.
There are 3 ways to improve your team. The draft, fa and trades. The spurs score high in the draft but flunk on trades and fa. Parker and manu were steals where they were drafted and thats the high point of player acquisistions by the spurs.
You know, it really surprises me how underated Bruce Bowen is...First of all, I can almost guarantee you that if we did not have him as our defensive stopped against all the big star shooters(Kobe Bryant, etc...), we would NOT have won 2003, 3005 championships, period. Remember all those years, we could not stop Kobe?
Show Bruce respect...He deserves it. Just a reminder, he was the runner up for the Defensive Player of the Year this VERY SEASON and he was the LEAD vote geater for the 1st All Defensive Team THIS SEASON...So how anyone can possibly say that he is not worth much, that's just plain idiotic. The guy is a defensive speacialist for a reason. He can defend Dirk, Chauncey, Rip, Kobe, AI, etc...better than ANYONE...And yes, he is 35 years old...But is he showing his age at all this season? If you think so, then you're blind. Or you have selectively forgot the BLOCK on 7 ft tall Dirk, he GAVE us a chance to beat the Mavs in the playoffs...Without that BLOCK, we would have lost it all....SO don't give me stuff about how no one wants him...Any team would be jumping to get him. In my mind, I don't care about his age, he is the best defender. And to give him no credit at all is just ridiculous...
Everyone always focuses on the big shooters, they forget about great defenders and how important defense is...Remember, defense wins championships...Not offense...
Bruce should be right next to Tim, Tony, Manu as the core...He is not lesser than any of them...
Bowen did not stop bryant. The spurs won despite Bowen.
Bowen cannot defend Dirk. Its better to get rid of Bowen a year early while he may have a little value then try to get rid of him a year late when he has no value.
So your take on the 2005 le team playoff rotation goes something like this:
Duncan -- random luck
Parker -- random luck
Ginobili -- random luck
Bowen -- sucks
Horry -- sucks
Mohammed -- sucks
Barry -- sucks
Is that about the size of it?
Stupidest. Post. Ever.
No Parker and manu were great draft picks.
The Mavericks have a payroll that's double the Spurs payroll. That's what happens when you have enough money to replace brains. If the Spurs spent money like that the team wouldn't be in San Antonio. Would it be nice to just throw money all over the place? Sure. Comparing the Spurs situation to the Knicks and Mavericks, of all teams, is just a joke.
Explain why. byrant still scored on bowen. Thats a big reason why the spurs lost so many times to the Lakers.
Wow...this is coming from a Spurs fan? Honestly, you sound ungreatful. Let's repeat what I said earlier, NO BLOCK on Dirk in Game 4, we LOSE in 4-1...Why don't you search for that pic....before posting ridiculous comments...
Its good thing and advantage to be able to spend money. Thats why the spurs window is small. Smalltown cheap
Last edited by rascal; 07-13-2006 at 07:32 PM.
Bryant and the Lakers have beaten the spurs more often than the spurs have beaten him.
last time I noticed mavs have no rings.......
sure they beat the spurs this year but still no ring
and suns have not even got to the finals in a long time
now heat I will give you but heat had a healthy wade this year in the playoffs against pistons
last year he was injured
I like the fact bowen has improved his o game
had he not I would be happy to ship him out with the new league rules
but you don't get it. They turned around weak teams and made them contenders without the benefit of landing a player like Duncan in the lucky draft lottery. Had any of these teams landed Duncan they win les also especially with their good track record of player moves in trades and fa as compared with the spurs.
amare if healthy is a beast not nearly as good as duncan though
but he has NASH THE 2 TIME DEFENDING MVP
Suns were made contenders because CUBAN WAS CHEAP
Are all your posts this ing ignorant?
Bryant scores on everybody, and he can do it with frightening efficiency if you aren't careful. The thing you have to do is challenge all his shots, keep him out of his spots, keep his percentage down and don't send him to the foul line. Bowen has done all of those things. If Bryant scores 40 points on 13 shots you are probably going to lose. If Bryant scores 40 points on 39 shots you are probably going to win. Since Bowen actually played him well enough to ing outscore him in a game, that's basically shutting him down, which just about nobody else in the league can do. It's taken some heroic performances from the Derek Fishers and Devean Georges of the Lakers to beat the Spurs. It doesn't discount the job Bowen did.
Amare Was A Draft Player Not A Fa
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