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    So- the Spurs made it their focus to offer enough to Elson to keep him from getting matched- thereby offering Butler the leftovers which the Knicks wiill probably match. Welcome your new starting center-- Fransicso Elson. And let us not forget- that 3/$9M is what Scola was apparently willing to come for.
    well the spurs didn't want scola so it don't matter, we have enough pf, but damn why is elson the one with the good contract??? pop and r.c. confuse the out of me, it must be because he isn't american

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    well the spurs didn't want scola so it don't matter, we have enough pf, but damn why is elson the one with the good contract??? pop and r.c. confuse the out of me, it must be because he isn't american
    You realize when the Spurs traded Rasho, they said it was because they had too many centers and needed room for more power fowards with Duncan's increased minutes at center. Now, they need centers. Their story constantly changes and people who are not paying close attention buy it every time. I can't wait for the story about how Javtokas has a bad at ude or something. I know it is coming.

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    You realize when the Spurs traded Rasho, they said it was because they had too many centers and needed room for more power fowards with Duncan's increased minutes at center.
    They said that?

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    man, everything is falling into place.

    -mohammed walks (what a coup that trade turned out to be. lol)
    -rasho dumped for expiring contracts
    -spurs make half assed attempt to land decent free agent centers
    -spurs make 3 year offer to francisco elson
    -spurs make smaller 3 year offer to butler despite him being the tougher rfa to land
    -spurs piss off javtokas and he goes to....greece. lol.

    this is what happens when you are about something other than winning. this is what happens when the player-personnel types are stifled by non-basketball related crap.

    this team is not about winning now. it's about putting on the appearance of contending. that.

    ludden has an article this offseason that's coming up. it's going to be about how the evil luxury tax has hampered the spurs this summer. holt will probably slip him a benjamin for that.

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    furry-spurry it is already out
    jav pubically said he wanted playing time though before spurs made the offers today
    he did not know if he could beat out nazr or rasho..

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    I was trying to figure out when that was said myself. Anyways, if the Spurs get both then great if not then fine....the season hasn't started yet and we just gotta wait and see.

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    You realize when the Spurs traded Rasho, they said it was because they had too many centers and needed room for more power fowards with Duncan's increased minutes at center. Now, they need centers. Their story constantly changes and people who are not paying close attention buy it every time. I can't wait for the story about how Javtokas has a bad at ude or something. I know it is coming.
    what? the spurs are never misleading. lol.

    lol you are right about the upcoming javtokas story. within a day or so he'll be the most hated lithuanian in san antonio history, edging out sarunas for his role in the '91 playoff debacle. cant wait.

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    man, everything is falling into place.

    -mohammed walks (what a coup that trade turned out to be. lol)

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    yeah, mohammed was a huge factor in that championship run...when he left the court for horry to come in.

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    yeah, mohammed was a huge factor in that championship run...when he left the court for horry to come in.

    Did you even watch the finals?

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    yes. apparently you did not.

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    so elson got a 3 yr offer sheet starting at about $2.8 mil per and butler got a 3 yr offer sheet starting at $2.2 mil per.
    from what i read from Express News the real deal was:
    The Spurs divided their $5.2million midlevel exception between the two centers. Butler signed a three-year, $7 million offer sheet, while Elson received a two-year deal for close to $6million.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...n.1585d2f.html

    BTW, I have the feeling elson is going to be a Spur next season based on this article.

    Speaking to reporters in Denver on Wednesday, Nuggets coach George Karl said it would "probably be a danger for us to match" the offer for Elson.

    "He hated to be called an insurance policy," Karl said, "but he was."

    Elson, whose nickname among the Nuggets was "Geico," said he doesn't know whether the Nuggets will keep him.

    "My concern right now is that hopefully (my future is) with the Spurs," Elson said. "They're a great organization and championship-caliber type team. Shoot, anyone would like to play for the Spurs

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    I can hear George Karl laughing from here.

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    I woke up and those are the news I get? Great.































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    I can hear George Karl laughing from here.
    Why are you so upset? The Spurs still have Matt Bonner.

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    from what i read from Express News the real deal was:
    The Spurs divided their $5.2million midlevel exception between the two centers. Butler signed a three-year, $7 million offer sheet, while Elson received a two-year deal for close to $6million.
    right, as i stated, butler's deal starts at $2.2 mil per. elson's deal starts at $2.8 mil. the only question is whether elson got 2 or 3 years.

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    Why are you so upset? The Spurs still have Matt Bonner.
    And the jokes keep coming. Keep it up.

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    Buckner bolts to Mavericks
    Center Elson signs an offer sheet with the San Antonio Spurs, but the Nuggets have a week to match.
    By Adam Thompson and Marc J. Spears

    The Nuggets anchored their main attraction to the Pepsi Center on Wednesday but failed to do the same with members of their supporting cast.

    On the day they trumpeted Anthony's extension, unrestricted guard Greg Buckner signed with Dallas and restricted center Francisco Elson inked an offer sheet with San Antonio.

    Buckner will receive at least three years guaranteed, with options leaving the door open for two more. At best, he could make just less than $19 million over five years, though a more likely scenario would have him make about $15 million over four.

    While Buckner is gone for good, the Nuggets still have a week to match what is believed to be a two-year, $6 million offer to Elson. However, coach George Karl did not sound optimistic about it, calling it a "danger" for Denver to match the deal.

    "Hopefully Francisco feels we helped him in this process and he got better," Karl said. "He's a proven player who will have to be replaced, and it will be a difficult replacement."

    Meanwhile, Buckner said he was happy after landing at what he called his first choice.

    "It's crazy it worked out," he said.

    Aside from serving as a defensive specialist, the two-guard represented Denver's top perimeter threat on a team that finished last in the NBA in 3-point shooting this past season. Buckner's .354 3-point percentage may not have been phenomenal, but his 86 3-pointers easily led the team, and he averaged a career-high 6.7 points.

    Nuggets director of player personnel Mark Warkentien was on the phone with Buckner's agent until about 12:30 a.m. Wednesday before conceding.

    Warkentien thanked Buckner for his two years in Denver. As for shoring up the team's weakened outside shooting, he said: "It's not easy by definition. But we just press on."

    With the Nuggets having committed approximately $140 million to Anthony and Nene this summer, Buckner said he figured his return would be a longshot.

    "My time in Denver was great," he said, later adding: "They wanted to take care of their young kids. I thought it was going to work out that way. You have to take care of Melo and Nene. There wasn't much money left."

    Dallas owner Mark Cuban expressed pleasure in bringing Buckner back to the team that drafted him.

    "'Buck' is a warrior who has expanded his offensive game considerably," Cuban said in an e-mail. "We are excited to add the pride of Hopkinsville (Ky.) to the Mavs."

    All of the Nuggets' top big men have battled injuries in the past, meaning the Nuggets will have to find a player like Elson if they let him walk.

    The Dutchman averaged 4.9 points and 4.7 rebounds with the Nuggets last season, his third with the team. His ability to play in a pinch - Denver went 32-22 when he started last season - earned him the nickname "Geico."

    "You're sad," Karl said. "He was fun for us this year. He hated to be called an insurance policy, but he was."

    Before news of Elson's contract surfaced Wednesday, the center gave little away in discussing his preferences.

    "The San Antonio Spurs are a good team, but whatever happens, happens," he said.

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    Make room George Gervin, David Robinson and Tim Duncan, it looks like Francisco Elson is coming to town!

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    2 year deal it seems.

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    Why are you so upset? The Spurs still have Matt Bonner.

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    bonner could be starting by december if elson is slated to take over the starting 5 spot

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    bonner could be starting by december if elson is slated to take over the starting 5 spot
    Bonner is a glorified Sean Marks...let's not get ahead of ourselves.

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    Why are you so upset? The Spurs still have Matt Bonner.
    Your sarcasm is getting annoying. Talk basketball.

    Bonner isn't a starting center.

    I know you think the Bonner signing is a joke, but it serves a purpose. He's an outside shooter that can spread the floor.

    The Spurs still need another player to do what starting centers do ... rebound, block shots, defend. Hopefully the center spot isn't Elson backed up by Oberto or it's going to be a long season.

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    it's not that bonner is that great, it's that elson sucks that hard. duncan will have to replace his ass in the starting lineup barring any trades or lucking out on butler.

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