Knicks decline to match Spurs' offer to Butler

[mardigan]

I know. I did rebounders per 40 min. Butler is much less than Nazr. He's above Rasho's stats for this past season (but not his career stats or anything).

How can he be worse than Nazr when Nazr only averaged 1 and a half boards more with 6 more min a game?

[ObiwanGinobili]

I think it's disgraceful that CIA Pop uses those pictures of Isaiah and Magic in the showers to make him do whatever he wants on trades.

And he must be selling copies of the pics cheap to every GM in the League.

priceless.
sig worthy.

[picnroll]

So everyone is cool with Butler as a starter? Or just relieved to have anyone sign with the Spurs at this point?

Most Knicks' fans are pretty high on Butler, The one critique you'll see some make is his commitment to D. If he puts in the effort and can pick up the Spurs defensive system fairly quickly he should be as good/better than Rasho or Nazr. I think he already brings more on the offensive end.

[spurster]

Can Butler guard Dirk?

[timvp]

Can Butler guard Dirk?

Maybe in a video game.

[mardigan]

Maybe in a video game.

I dont even think then

[ObiwanGinobili]

Can Butler guard Dirk?

since our defensive stategy hardly ever calls for our center to chase his player all over the 3 pt line..... I'm guessing no.


but straight up - most likely not. Dirk's a monster.

[Mr. Body]

Most Knicks' fans are pretty high on Butler, The one critique you'll see some make is his commitment to D. If he puts in the effort and can pick up the Spurs defensive system fairly quickly he should be as good/better than Rasho or Nazr. I think he already brings more on the offensive end.

This is a hard one to call. We've only seen him on the Knicks. Who weren't quite 'dedicated' to defense.

[T Park]

We do need to find a Dirk slower.

[Mr. Body]

We do need to find a Dirk slower.

Elson fouls the crap out of people. It's a specialty.

[Kori Ellis]

How can he be worse than Nazr when Nazr only averaged 1 and a half boards more with 6 more min a game?

Divide it yourself. Butler average 3.3 rebounds in 13.5 min. Nazr averaged 5.2 rebounds in 17.4 minutes.

Nazr = .299 rebounds per min
Rasho = .206 rpm
Butler = .244 rpm

Like I said... he's between Nazr and Rasho.

I like Butler and think he has a lot of potential. But don't think he should be touted as an above average rebounder. Lorenzen Wright rebounds better (per).

[waly.mg]

The Fact is:

Oberto someones sayed is an "undersized" center with 6´10" and Butler is 6´10" too

[ChumpDumper]

Can Dirk guard Butler?

[timvp]

The Fact is:

Oberto someones sayed is an "undersized" center with 6´10" and Butler is 6´10" too

Problem is Oberto is really like 6'7. Plus Butler's wingspan is probably a foot longer.

[MoSpur]

Oberto is more like 6'7" or 6'8"

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Elson fouls the crap out of people. It's a specialty.

and he will foul them hard enough to make them think twice about going inside again

[T Park]

Oberto is 6'10 like im Asian.

[mardigan]

Yeah, my minutos per game on Nazr was wrong, my bad. But at least hes got hands and shoots a relatively same free throw % as Nazr. There is a sweet highlight dunk of his on youtube, even though its short

[ShoogarBear]

So everyone is cool with Butler as a starter? Or just relieved to have anyone sign with the Spurs at this point?

I think the jury is still out.

If they do start him, I don't expect a lot at the beginning. What I do expect to see is significant strides over the course of the year. I would especially like to see him become a better rebounder, or really he won't be much help.

Pop will like this, though. He hates to have things settled at the beginning of the year.

[Leetonidas]

As I predicted. Now, let the rejoice commence.

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, my minutos per game on Nazr was wrong, my bad. But at least hes got hands and shoots a relatively same free throw % as Nazr. There is a sweet highlight dunk of his on youtube, even though its short

I have seen him enough to know that I like him a lot. But I just think he's good for other reasons, other than being a "great" rebounder.

[MoSpur]

He doesn't have to do much scoring. All he has to do is focus on defensive and rebounding. That being said, he will do just fine.

[mardigan]

I think if we sign Elson as well, he will probably start in the early part of the season, then Butler will take over

[pache100]

Won't Dirk get Dampier or Terry to do that?

[ducks]

elson and butler will be in shape for training camp fighting for the starting job if elson is not matched