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1. No, not quite...as long as Manu plays better and our guys stay healthy
2. No, we have no clue how well Butler or Elson will perform for us.
3. No, we need a long three.
True, he had an awesome game 7 which thanks to TPark (assisted by Kori) I was privileged to watch.
It is my belief that the Spurs playoffs were affected by how they played in the regular season. I do not think that we played Spurs basketball in the regular season. Tony played great and carried us a lot, but he dominated the ball. We became used to that. When it came down to the playoffs, we were not as comfortable and as crisp at executing our offense through Tim and still getting other people involved.
That's my opinion.
1. No, not quite...as long as Manu plays better and our guys stay healthy
2. No, we have no clue how well Butler or Elson will perform for us.
3. No, we need a long three.
2012 is ours, es.
I'd be with you on that if it were an odd-numbered year!
rich melzer save us
my 2 cents...
diop / damp/mbenga > elson/ butler
dirk/ croshere = dunacn/ bonner
howard/ george/stack > bowen/ williams/barry
terry/ buckner/ager = manu/fin
harris/ johnson = parker/ beno/ vaughn
IMO we hold a clear advantage in the 5 and 3
i really dont think u guys get it...the spurs need to make moves to get better and to counter teams...right now they just dont have the personel to match the mavs or suns
wait, no ing way. dont be ting me now. without you we couldnt have figured that out.
, the Spurs had less talent than the Mavs almost every year of the Dirk-Fin-Nash triumvirate.
Spurs have never had the most talented team. It's about the parts fitting together and addressing the weaknesses.
It's also going to be about whether Dirk is going to have another year like last one, or whether Finals Dirk is the real Dirk.
Mavfan drops the paper champion post!
Took him long enough!
2007
all of cube's curses and all of cube's mencouldnt get the mavs back to the finals again
2007
the butler did it
sorry, i had to be the first
EXCELLENT post, and possibly the best collective truths we can come up with. About dirk:
His German Shot Doctor explicitely told the Dallas Morning News that Dirk was at level 7 of his 12(14?) step program that he devised for Dirk to reach his potential since he was a boy. He said Dirk will become far far greater than he is now. But non hypothetically speaking, the one thing I noticed Dirk did this season was take far less threes for more dependable short range jumpers. This technique works for him like a charm with the new rules cuz he becomes one of the most dangerous free throw shooters while remaining a jump shooter. IMO, that garbage about him improving rebounding and defense is just that: garbage. He forces us to play small and NATURALLY rebounds well.
I personally think Dirk is a choke job, who rode a load of momentum into the greatest post season of his career. Look at the final quarter of the season. Choke Job.
My opinion stated, he is still the most dangerous threat. But what more could he possibly do? Barring more future rule changes, what could Dirk possibly do to become better? I know that what we saw last postseason was the best Dirk that Dirk can ever be. I just know it. He'll never be able to bang with a real powerforward, and is just as ty a defender as he was back in the day.
Shoog said something we all know but maybe just haven't heard it said in a while: We've never had the best talent. Mavs were LOADED in '03.
The only caveat is that this time around, instead of addressing minor needs, our need is HUGE: rebounding.
And I feel we have done nothing to address it.
Deven George sucks.
The Spurs need to get rid of the reason they lost to Dallas.
Ginobili's brain.
Yeah I hate Ginobili now.
Or they could just off the refs and david stern mobster style. Go Goodfellas on them. That was as big of a reason as any.
Damn, nobody makes me laugh louder than Sequ.
I agree that I don't see Dirk improving any more, while TP probably will, and Manu should have a better year, and Tim's PF (knock wood) won't be haunting him. Just those three having better seasons than last may be enough, if everybody else can do their jobs.
1) Have the Mavs clearly surpassed the Spurs with their transactions this summer?
While the Spurs did get two centers, one of whom is only 21 and holds massive upside and potential, the Mavs dumped Daniels, got Croshere, Johnson, Deaven George, Buckner and Ager. The Spurs definetly were on the right track to counter the Mavs with the aquisition of Matt Bonner. Robert Horry couldn't hit jack in the WCSF and Matt Bonner is a great 3 point shooter. This should give Tim more room to operate, and given that, Tim is unstoppable.
The Spurs' trasnactions aren't over yet though, IMO.
2) Is the Spurs' roster as it stands as good as their roster was at the end of last season?
Minus Van Exel, minus Rasho, minus Nazr, plus Bonner, plus Elson, plus Butler, plus Williams, plus Vaughn. I'd say better. Vaughn will be able to play much better as a backup PG if needed than NVE and he defends much better. Bonner is a good floor spacer and should give Tim more room to operate. Elson and Butler are a good 1-2 punch at the center position. Let's face it, Nazr and Rasho didn't do much. Butler has a good post game and Elson is fast for a big man.
3) Would you be confident against the Mavs next season if neither team made any more moves? If not, what moves do you think the Spurs need to make?
I would be. The Spurs have never been more talented than the Mavericks as a whole, and it's all about determination. Manu made one mistake that cost this team Game 7. That won't happen next year. HOWEVER, I would like to see the Spurs go after a SF to make this offseason complete.
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Damn, talk about fair weather... you gonna hate UT if the freshman QB's suck this year? I hope they don't, but you never know
I had forgotten about Rasho and Nazr by game 3 so I doubt that it will be too hard for that to happen.
What if Pop is willing to put Elson on Dirk? The Spurs sure have made a lot of noise about that Dutch guy's speed.
If Pop is willing to try Elson on Dirk, that could explain why the Spurs don't think they need anymore moves. They've also mentioned that Eric Williams is a guy who could possibly guard Dirk. So perhaps the Spurs see Elson and Williams as their Haslem and Posey.
I don't think Elson can guard Dirk any better than Rasho or Horry but I this theory would explain why the Spurs aren't out desperately searching for a Long Three.
I was joking, but honestly, if you set up the big three on the Faith Scale:
Duncan tops with ~999 points
Parker is at about 300
And Ginobili came into the playoffs with a 350 but is now at like a 180
So as you can see, I still like him, but his faith points took a major hit.
We should save this question for later, cuz I think its safe to say most of us have no real first hand view of Elson on the court. I never even heard of him before a couple weeks ago.
Everything I know about him comes from this board.
If he can do a decent job on him, he still needs to rebound doesn't he?
Other than a midrange jumper, the only identifiable skill that Elson brings to the table is his ability to run the floor decently. I don't know that they see the problem as solved -- I still think they're looking for the right trade -- but I think they think Elson can give them decent minutes against the Mavs.
They may think the same thing about Bonner. I don't know what to think about Williams, since they haven't so much as introduced him.
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