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Uh, yeah they do. So do the 3 trophies and 3 championship banners hanging in our arena. You'll understand once you have one.
wow three wonderful additions to this topic..props to u man
Uh, yeah they do. So do the 3 trophies and 3 championship banners hanging in our arena. You'll understand once you have one.
I can't believe these mavs fans are still talking . After the way they were DISMISSED by the Heat on a world wide stage they still have the nerve to talk !!!!!!!??????????They drew the Mavs. Sorry Spurs
en emberrassing!!!!!!!!!!
Spurs WILL lose the first game of the season.
All fixed.
I've missed real basketball talk -- Pistons fans smacking down Mavericks fans in a Spurs forum!! I love this place!
Imagine what would happen if The Pistons took care of the Heat last season.
I would rather have a second round exit than a Finals CHOKE!
Outstanding quote material.
Spurs 98
Mavs 86
was that a joke?
A sincere hope.
They drew the Mavs. Sorry Spurs
that's why I love this forum...
Which ultimately means that they will NEVER understand!
Mavs 180
Spurs 86 (typical)
AND the MAVS lost the last game of the season this year ,ha ha ha
AND yoru HR will go fishing anther one year.
I think that the game will be a blow-out, I am leaning toward a Spurs blow-out but with an excited crowd I would not rule out a Mavs blow-out.
Tough call, I will say Spurs 94-80
Duncan 41 points 15 boards 5 assists
When you keep losing to Dallas? Where have you been the past 15 years? You certianly haven't been watching the Mavs, much less the Spurs. The Mavs have beaten the Spurs in the playoffs once during their franchise's history. For someone who likes to point to last year (history) as evidence, you do a good job of ignoring the rest of history. That's fine with me because every year is different.
That is one thing I have learned as a Spurs fan, something you will experience this season if the Mavs do not live up to your high expectations. Each year is different; each year provides its own, unique challenges.
Sure, the Mavs have most of their players back and they will be a very good team. But people said the exact same thing about the Spurs after each of their championships. And for a team that didn't even with the championship it seems to me that getting back to that level, something which took a little fortune the first time, will be extremely difficult. I can say that because I have watched the Spurs try and fail after each of their les. Last year was the third time history repeated itself for the Spurs. It was the first time for a lot of things to happen to the Mavs (first time to beat SA, first time in Finals, first time to lose Finals).
So while I can grant that the Mavs have a very good chance at winning another le, I mean a first le, I can appreciate how difficult it is to get back to the Finals because I have watched the Spurs fail to defend their les. Given that the Mavs have only been to the Finals once and have never actually won a le, the same cannot be said for them.
Incidentally, there is something to be said for actually winning the le. It does matter that this team has 3 les, because the common theme in each of those les is Tim Duncan. Yes, Duncan is the reason that 3-0 matters. And Duncan is the reason history matters when you look at the Spurs. Like they said the other day on ESPN, there are only two players in the NBA that should never be booed by their home fans: Shaq and Duncan. As long as Duncan is on the Spurs and playing at a high level, 3-0 matters because it proves he can get it done. The Mavs have not proven that yet. Dirk is officially 0-1.
For the coming season the Mavs have bragging rights over what they did to the Spurs LAST year. That's all well and good, but it doesn't really impact what will happen THIS year except that the Mavs, not the Spurs, will have the target on their chest. The Mavs, not the Spurs, will be trying to repeat as WC Champs. And what does history say about that? It doesn't say anything, because this is a first for the Mavs.
Every Spurs team that has won a le experienced some good fortune along the way. The Mavs team last season was no different. By Cuban's own admission they got lucky along the way, most notably against the Spurs (according to Cuban). To their credit they took advantage of that opportunity. But lets not pretend that the Mavs can overcome fortune rolling another way. They haven't proven that they can overcome that, evident in their loss to Miami. And if fortune rests with the Suns? Or with the Spurs? The Mavs will be talking about a wasted opportunity. That being their chance, as the better team in the Finals last year, to win the le.
And that is one thing Mavs fans and Spurs fans can agree on: the best team doesn't always win. Unfortunately for Avery Johnson, last year was the second time it has happened to his team.
yep this is just showing. i've seen it in every thread. you guys talk about HISTORY you guys know you arent the best in the West anymore, so you pull up "3 rings" every time which is long gone and dead. fact is PHX, LA, DAL are all better than you are, and once Duncan retires. hah you guys are really done for a long time. sorry but we'll be winning championships in the process
And the Mavs WILL lose the rest of their games.
those are good points. but the fact is, Duncan is older and not as good. i'll go as far as to say Nowitzki = Duncan right now. plus that was Dirks first finals, and he didnt have as good of a supporting cast as Duncan did.
some fans will bring up the "3 rings" statement just to show that Spurs history is better than the MAvs which means nothing.
but your point makes sense. you say they've won 3 rings with Duncan which means Duncan can win championships. i agree he can, but i think he is getting older and worse. he is getting injured a lot.
I agree that his health was a concern. But that is somewhat my point. Health is one of those things that fortune brings you. And if you don't have health you must overcome it somehow. The Spurs did that against Detroit two years ago but couldn't do it again.
What if health becomes a concern for Dirk next season? What if health isn't a concern for Duncan or Parker or Manu? What if Amare Stoudamire has a full recovery? What if Phoenix doesn't have to play back-to-back, 7-game series before facing the Mavs? Cir stances change; cir stances that are outside the control of the Mavs. When the compe ion is this close -- the Mavs, Spurs and Suns should be very, very close -- fortune may be the separator. Maybe things will set up nicely for the Mavs again. I'm not saying it won't happen. But it has never happened for the Spurs. It is really difficult.
Dallas just did what San Antonio normally does, playing deep into the playoffs and wearing down their bodies. And isn't Dirk playing the World Championships too? There are reasons the Spurs are banged up come playoff time. Most of their team plays basketball year-round. I think you will see that Duncan's health will be at a high compared to the last two seasons. He is sitting at home, resting. He hasn't done that in a few years. I'd be more worried about the health of the Mavs and Spurs participating in the World Championships.
And I think Dirk's supporting cast was just fine. Dirk needs to play better against Udonis Haslem, plain and simple. Duncan was never shut down in the Finals. That's when he played his best. The Mavs were better than the Heat at nearly every position. Dirk played his best basketball in the second round; he dissapointed in the Finals.
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