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  1. #76
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    Until you admit Devean George is going to the Hall of Fame, I'm taking my ball and going home.
    typical Mavs fans
    want others to respect them
    they respect no one

  2. #77
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    Until you admit Devean George is going to the Hall of Fame, I'm taking my ball and going home.
    or that the Nets, Pacers, and Lakers wouldn't have reached the Finals without Anthony Johnson, Austin Croshere, and Devean George, apparently.

    By big3bigD's logic, had Malik Rose been on the free agent market, he would have been a monsterous signing for a contender because he played a role on 2 le teams. I guess that's the sort of hard data that I have to have before posting an opinion about how the future might unfold. Alas, I'm not blessed wtih big3bigD's uncanny knack for being able to deduce what will happen next season by examining the quality of each team's role players based on how deeply into the previous playoffs those players have advanced. Clearly, players who have been role players on teams that reached the Finals and have been asked to fill some ambiguous role on an already great team are far, far more valuable than kids who fit roles on a new team but have never even had the chance to participate at those levels.

  3. #78
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    It's not that Chump, it's that I am tired of correcting Spur fan's inaccuracies. I'm not going anywhere, I just will not debate something that is made up or inaccurate.

    You are quite the smart ass, so I would ahve figured that at least you would have been reading enough of the thread to realize that nobody is claiming greatness for George. I was a simple question thread.

    Your boy here is just making up facts as he goes along (none of which have had anything to do with george), and I will not continually point out his inaccuracies.

    You also need to read the thread Chump.
    you dont understand
    its the offseason right now
    why even argue?

    these teams are too close
    series went down to one shot
    predictions are dumb

  4. #79
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    Show me any data that you've relied upon.

    Your opinion is not data, nor is it factual.
    I rely on hard data that can be accessed by anyone in the world and verified by the NBA website.

    AJ was a major factor in that Nets series. He actually outplayed JKidd in that series and scored 40 one game.

    The Mavs do not overspend at all and just acquire big names. This is fact because they have almost the same payroll as the supposedly "frugal" Spurs.

    Croshere was a large part of the Pacers squad that went to thr Finals against the Lakers.

    These are just the first three that come to mind. The rest of your posts are filled with similar Spur Homer inaccuracies.

  5. #80
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    Your boy here is just making up facts as he goes along (none of which have had anything to do with george), and I will not continually point out his inaccuracies.
    I'd love an example of a fact that I've "made up." Just one. Any one of the many you claim. Just one. It shouldn't be terribly difficult to provide just one example.

    Believe me, I certainly will acknowledge a factual error if one exists.

    I suspect, however, that you're taking my disagreements with your opinions as made up facts.

  6. #81
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    typical Mavs fans
    want others to respect them
    they respect no one

    Wrong Haiku. I do not give damn about getting anybody's respect on this board. I only have a problem with you Homers who live in your Spur hole.
    If Spurfan would get his facts straight, then i have no problem.

  7. #82
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    I'd love an example of a fact that I've "made up." Just one. Any one of the many you claim. Just one. It shouldn't be terribly difficult to provide just one example.

    Believe me, I certainly will acknowledge a factual error if one exists.

    I suspect, however, that you're taking my disagreements with your opinions as made up facts.
    This is why you are now called Fencepost. You argue and debate, but do not listen. I just gave you three examples of things corrected that you made up.

  8. #83
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    you dont understand
    its the offseason right now
    why even argue?

    these teams are too close
    series went down to one shot
    predictions are dumb
    LOl you are right about that, but as long as these clowns continue to debate with false information, I will continue to correct them.

  9. #84
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    You also need to read the thread Chump.
    Not really.

    Mavfan overestimates George, Spurfan dismisses signing out of hand.

    Mavfan gets upset at perceived lack of respect, Spurfan makes sure it's not just perceived.

    Rinse and repeat.

  10. #85
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    Not really. Mavfan overestimates George, Spurfan dismisses signing out of hand.

    Mavfan gets upset at perceived lack of respect, Spurfan makes sure it's not just perceived.

    Rinse and repeat.
    Or... Chump dumps some BS out of his mouth and tries to sound clever without addressing what was really posted. Chump dumps another brief ammount of BS to try to make up for his last bit of BS and fails again.

    Mav fan continues to clown ignorant Spur fan and not give a damn what he thinks...

    Rinse, Repeat, vomit.

  11. #86
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    I rely on hard data that can be accessed by anyone in the world and verified by the NBA website.

    AJ was a major factor in that Nets series. He actually outplayed JKidd in that series and scored 40 one game.
    You're talking about last year's First round series that AJ's Pacers lost to Kidd's Nets. I'm talking about the Nets' runs to the 2002 and 2003 Finals in which Anthony Johnson was a bit player.

    EDIT: That aside, I did acknowledge in an earlier post that I thought Anthony Johnson was a nice move for the Mavericks, no doubt in part because he played well in the 2006 playoffs, independent of anything he did while with the Nets. I don't know that a single 40 point playoff game gives a guy playoff mettle and championship guts, but it's certainly impressive.

    {note: edit made before big3bigD tries to lambaste me for being too specific}

    The Mavs do not overspend at all and just acquire big names. This is fact because they have almost the same payroll as the supposedly "frugal" Spurs.
    I don't know that I ever said that. What I said is that the Mavericks are, as you posited earlier in this thread, more willing to spend money on guys who have names while the Spurs have spend the summer focused less on names than on skills. I've also said that the Spurs spent last summer playing the game a lot like the Mavericks have spent this summer -- acquiring names without real thought about where those names fit onto a roster. I think the Spurs have gone back to their old ways and that distinguishes the philosophies we've seen this summer.

    Croshere was a large part of the Pacers squad that went to thr Finals against the Lakers.
    He played a role. Did he make the difference? No. Would the Pacers likely have made the Finals without Croshere? I'd think so.

    I don't mean to discount Croshere as a player, but he's been fortunate to play in situations where he didn't have to make a big difference because there were other players on the roster who carried the load.

    These are just the first three that come to mind. The rest of your posts are filled with similar Spur Homer inaccuracies.
    Or disagreements with your opinions. I guess those are really the same thing. I should just admit that the Spurs weren't even close to beating Dallas in 2006, that Tim Duncan is washed up, that Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are horrendously overrated, that the Spurs will likely finish 3rd or 4th in the division in 2006-07, and that the Spurs will be a middling seed that will be fortunate to escape round 1 of the 2007 playoffs.

    Is that accuracy for you?
    Last edited by FromWayDowntown; 08-08-2006 at 03:08 PM.

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    Mavfan obssesses over acquisition of "large parts."

    Spurfan laughs at obvious connotation.

  13. #88
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    Why would you be speaking of him being a bit player 3 or 4 years ago when AJ had an outstanding playoff series just last season?

    I actually agree completely with your second point, EXCEPT, that I think that their philosophies are now almost the same. They are at least very similar.

    The third point is really moot, but Croshere has the experience and skills to be a solid backup for dirk. Croshere will not be expected to make much of a difference in Dallas, so I guess that his situation as far as you are concerned stays the same. He is basically there to provide spot minutes and help stretch the floor when needed.

    Accuracy for me is posting something that is not opinion, but can be verified with credible resources.

    As far as the Spurs being a middle seed and exiting in the 1st, well, that just might be an opinion that becomes fact if the Spurs do not change things up before the beginning of the season.

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    Mavfan obssesses over acquisition of "large parts."

    Spurfan laughs at obvious connotation.
    Chump dumps more BS and still sounds clownish.

    Mavfan recognizes Chumps admission of sexuality and agrees full heartedly.

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    Mavfan gets more upset trying to play cool, still doesn't quite understand that Spurfans could possibly disagree with his y predictions.

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    As far as the Spurs being a middle seed and exiting in the 1st, well, that just might be an opinion that becomes fact if the Spurs do not change things up before the beginning of the season.
    As long as Tim Duncan wears silver and black, the Spurs will be a force.

    Discount them if you wish, but in my estimation, those opinions are fanciful.

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    Mavfan gets more upset trying to play cool, still doesn't quite understand that Spurfans could possibly disagree with his y predictions.
    Chump dumps more BS and still doen't read threads.

    Mavfan continues to recognize Chump's sexuality as is displayed by his screenname pic.

    Chump continues to display clownish nature...

    Rinse, Repeat, Vomit all over a silly Chump.

  18. #93
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    Until you admit Devean George is going to the Hall of Fame, I'm taking my ball and going home.


    P.S. I apologize for such a short post.

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    As long as Tim Duncan wears silver and black, the Spurs will be a force.

    Discount them if you wish, but in my estimation, those opinions are fanciful.

    Do you guys really feel that way about Duncan? He is not the force that he once was by any means.

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    Do you guys really feel that way about Duncan? He is not the force that he once was by any means.

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    Do you guys really feel that way about Duncan? He is not the force that he once was by any means.
    Did you see what he did to our Mavs in that playoff series?!?!?!?!?!?!? How much more of a force do you think he can be?

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    Do you guys really feel that way about Duncan? He is not the force that he once was by any means.
    Yeah, I was pretty underwhelmed by that 32.3 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 3.7 apg, 1.0 spg, and 2.6 bpg he put up against the eventual Western Conference champion during the 2006 playoffs.

    If he were still a real force, he would have put up 45, 15, 7, 2, and 6 or something dominant like that. I mean anyone who draws single coverage for an entire series should be able to put up at least those kinds of numbers!!

    Until he rolls up a quintuple-double in a playoff game, I think he's nowhere near dominant.

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    We'll have to see. He had an OK season and one good series against the Mavs. He is getting older , slower, and has a bad foot. I guess that Duncan remaing the "best player in the world" for his entire life is just part of the SpurHomerFantasyLand....

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    We'll have to see. He had an OK season and one good series against the Mavs. He is getting older , slower, and has a bad foot. I guess that Duncan remaing the "best player in the world" for his entire life is just part of the SpurHomerFantasyLand....

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    Do you guys really feel that way about Duncan? He is not the force that he once was by any means.
    I hate having to side with Spur's fans but that's a ridiculous post.

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