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What if I started a WR who was also on the same team as my def/st. And say this WR returned a kickoff or punt for a TD, would I recieve double points for this?
Just wondering, why/how is a passing TD worth less than a rushing TD?
What if I started a WR who was also on the same team as my def/st. And say this WR returned a kickoff or punt for a TD, would I recieve double points for this?
I believe that if a player played & scored on a Special Teams or Defensive play (like a Punt/KickOff/Missed FG Ret'd for TD) then the Owner that has that Def/SpecTm gets the pints & NOT the person who has the player as a RB/WR/TE etc...
i.e., If I started Det Lions WR-Roy Williams as a WR & he ret'd kicks & scored I WOULDN'T get the credit for his scores unless I also owned & started the Det Lions Def/SpecTms.
Typically, the way I have seen it work is like this:
If Roy Williams returns a punt or a kickoff for a TD, it's points for the Roy Williams owner.
If special teams defense scores a gets a turnover (and possibly) scores a TD, it's points for the Defense, regardless who made the play.
Now, getting back to the punt, specifically a blocked punt, what is key is whether or not the ball crosses the line of scrimmage. The punting team is offense until the ball crosses the line of scrimmage. If a blocked punt crosses the line of scrimmage, the roles reverse. Same applies for FG attempts. Maybe Johnny Blaze can refresh my memory of a blocked punt involving Atlanta last year.
To all of the above, that how I think it works, traditionally speaking. I could be wrong. I always get mixed up on this stuff, and when it happens, I have to go read about it on the internets.
But the bottom line is it should either be covered in the rules, and if not, then the commish has the final say (and usually, say you are going with a league host like say Yahoo or CBS, they can roll with the host decision).
JMO
Hmmm, interesting.
I'm not 100% which way it'd go though.
It all depends on your league settings.
You absolutely get the points for the special teams/defense side of it.
And in most leagues, (if you're a commisioner) you can set whether or not return TD's count for your offensive players.
Yahoo's default settings for example, DO allow offensive player TD returns to count as 6 points ... and you would get them again for your defense.
But not all leagues use those defaults.
The current $250 FoxSports league does NOT allow for offensive TD returns ... so you'd only get the points for the Defense/ST
Bottom line: check your league settings check your league settings check your league settings!
I remember a few years back, I had KC defense (Ya they sucked, but I'm a homer!) I then also picked up Dante Hall because he was going crazy with all his TD returns. I threw him in as my flex, and got oodles of points for both defense/ST & my flex position.
I'd rather the return TD just go to the D/ST who scored. I hate bloated scores in FF.
As for passing TDs being valued at 4, it's the same reason(bloated scores). It really doesn't matter what point value you give to them, though.
...are we going with the three WR or a flex player. i hope its three WRs.
Just out of curiousity:
Why would anyone be opposed to a Flex option? If you want to play 3WR's, you can, but it gives you options during bye weeks and/or in case of injury. I actualy think in most cases, most teams will decide to go w/ 3 WR's as their is not much depth at RB this year, but personaly I love the Flexibility that it gives me.
I'm really just interested to know the opposing view points that maybe I haven't thought of.
I hear ya.
It is so FLEXible & I don't think some people get it but, to each their own.
JGW, which way do u vote?
I honestly was confused.
I'm pretty sure you won't hear one opposing argument.
i prefer:
1. two receivers
2. no flex player
...that obviously won't happen, so:
1. three receivers
2. no flex player
...i like it classic.
Anyone else that wants to give their input, please do so before Thursday because Friday we will post the set rules.
Also if there's anyone else still interested in these leagues or has friends that are interested, there are open spots.
How many open in the $250?
Might we have to go with 10 teams?
We have 10 teams now I believe. As of tomorrow, I am going out and getting two people we don't know (like we did last year). I had been trying to get people that we knew or at least sort of knew.
kori how many do we have for 50$ league??
10 plus a couple maybes.
We need 12 confirmed in each league by Friday.
So if you have friends that are interested, have them email me at [email protected]
Last edited by Kori Ellis; 08-15-2006 at 06:10 PM.
It looks to me that most people have voted against PPR and against the flex spot.
Anything else that needs discussed?
Everyone need to get the login info for yahoo from me. These two leagues, $50/$250 re-draft (non dynasty), got moved from FoxSports to Yahoo.
I just input the settings on Yahoo for the $250 league.
Can someone check them over and see if they are correct? (I realize flex/ppr are still debating)
Draft Type: Live Draft
Draft Time: Sun Sep 3 2:00pm CDT [ Add to My Calendar ]
Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head
Start Scoring on: Week 1
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 1
Trade End Date: November 17, 2006
Trade Review: Commissioner
Waiver Time: 1 day
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Playoffs: Week 14, 15 and 16 (6 teams)
Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: Passing Yards (40 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (15 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (15 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (0)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (0)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (0)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Point After Attempt Missed (-1)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (12)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (7)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (4)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4)
Fractional Points: Yes
Negative Points: Yes
If they are correct, then I'll input them for the $50 league too.
How will it work if someone has a WR that also returns kicks/punts & scores a TD?
Will that player's TD count only towards the owner that owns the Def/Spec Tm?
Last edited by Mr Dio; 08-15-2006 at 08:19 PM.
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