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    shut the up...

    when they dissolve team USA and USA starts sending college kids, then you can make that argument. Since thats NEVER gonna happen, shut the up and stop crying about international players.
    No how about you shut the up. Those players were given the opportunity by their team to play a ing game for a living and become rich. The least they can do is respect the teams decision if they dont want them going off and getting hurt. NBA players can be spoiled little es. Just look at Latrell "i have a family to feed" Sprewell.

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    No how about you shut the up. Those players were given the opportunity by their team to play a ing game for a living and become rich. The least they can do is respect the teams decision if they dont want them going off and getting hurt. NBA players can be spoiled little es. Just look at Latrell "i have a family to feed" Sprewell.
    So you are saying they should dissolve team USA as well and send in college kids?

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    So you are saying they should dissolve team USA as well and send in college kids?
    I am saying that the players should respect the wishes of their team. If the organization doesnt want to risk their star players going off and getting hurt, ruinining chances at a potential championship season then they should respect that.

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    No team has officaly stated this since its in NBA's best interest to have NBA players in these international compe ions.

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    Of course they don't officially come out and say it but the message is pretty clear.

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    Of course they don't officially come out and say it but the message is pretty clear.
    how so?

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    Do you feel comfortable having 3 key players to a potential championship team out there risking it all?

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    Do you want me to call Popovich and get him on the phone for u? All you can do is read between the lines. It's risky for them to be playing and the spurs organization would prefer they didn't.

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    Do you want me to call Popovich and get him on the phone for u? All you can do is read between the lines. It's risky for them to be playing and the spurs organization would prefer they didn't.
    The Spurs organization would probably prefer a lot of things, and the players would probably prefer the organization do a lot of things as well. Who cares?

    The players value playing for their country or else they wouldn't be there, right? They didn't give up the right to play in FIBA, the Olympics, or other international compe ions simply to work in the NBA. That is ridiculous.

    The Spurs don't own these guys, they simply employ them. Some of you get so damn out of line from what you expect of these players. You want to control every facet of their lives. Get a grip and let people live their lives how they see fit.

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    Do you want me to call Popovich and get him on the phone for u? All you can do is read between the lines. It's risky for them to be playing and the spurs organization would prefer they didn't.
    you are reading too much between the lines...

    I say, let the players do as they please, they are not slaves.

    like someone else mentioned in this thread, would you also prohibit them from skydiving, motorcycles, fast cars, etc,etc?

    Would the NBA teams prefer the players NOT to do those activities? yeah so what?

    those are as or more dangerous than FIBA compe ions

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    you are reading too much between the lines...

    I say, let the players do as they please, they are not slaves.

    like someone else mentioned in this thread, would you also prohibit them from skydiving, motorcycles, fast cars, etc,etc?

    Would the NBA teams prefer the players NOT to do those activities? yeah so what?

    those are as or more dangerous than FIBA compe ions
    Thats why T.J. Ford ed Milwaukee over for a couple of years. Milwaukee payed him to stay at home because he couldnt fulfill his responsibility to the team. Taking care of yourself is part of helping the team.

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    too bad. NBA players have a life outside basketball.

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    too bad. NBA players have a life outside basketball.
    I guess im used to being coached in high school where they teach that team is everything. Either you are 100% dedicated or you arent welcome. Those are the teams that win state championships. I guess the nba isnt that way.

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    Does your coach dress you in the mornings, too?

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    I guess im used to being coached in high school where they teach that team is everything. Either you are 100% dedicated or you arent welcome. Those are the teams that win state championships. I guess the nba isnt that way.
    The entire year? In the offseason you have a high school coach that doesn't let you do things? Because I find that incredibly hard to believe.

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    Does your coach dress you in the mornings, too?
    No but we are required to go to saturday practice and have only sundays off, which on Sundays we are expected but not required to come shoot or work out. He also makes us run cross country, and wear a dress shirt and tie to games. You get in trouble during school and he runs the out of you till u want to quit. Practice starts the first day of school even though the first game isnt untill November. Thats what the concept of team is. Not going off and doing what you want at the expense of the team.

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    The entire year? In the offseason you have a high school coach that doesn't let you do things? Because I find that incredibly hard to believe.
    No offseason we travel to Spring league and then Summer league games. The gym is open every day in the summer except for sundays. We still practice during the school athletic period, just not after school like during season. Offseason is still not fun its alot of hard work.

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    is this your coach?

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    I don't know where you get that the Spurs and Gregg Popovich would prefer that Parker and Ginobili, among others, not play for their national teams.

    Pop seems to understand that it's a great honor for these men to have the opportunity to represent their nations. As far as I know, he has always publicly encouraged the Spurs' players to participate whenever possible. A couple of summers ago, they asked Tony Parker to cool it for a summer, but that's the only exception I can think of.

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    you are reading too much between the lines...

    I say, let the players do as they please, they are not slaves.

    like someone else mentioned in this thread, would you also prohibit them from skydiving, motorcycles, fast cars, etc,etc?
    Would the NBA teams prefer the players NOT to do those activities? yeah so what?

    those are as or more dangerous than FIBA compe ions
    They can't ever prohibit them from doing these things, but I do think the team should be allowed to void a guaranteed contract in the event a player gets seriously hurt doing these things. To me you draw the line where a serious risk of injury or death is knowingly probable. If you get hurt playing ball with your kids in the yard - that is a fluke thing and that injury under normal cir stances cannot be predicted. On the other hand, if you get hurt riding a motorcycle with no helmet, skydiving, rock climbing, or driving a McLaren 180 down the road - those are all activities that serious injury or death can reasonably occur while doing. In the case of these risky activities the team should have the option to cut the player loose and void the contract all together.

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    No but we are required to go to saturday practice and have only sundays off, which on Sundays we are expected but not required to come shoot or work out. He also makes us run cross country, and wear a dress shirt and tie to games. You get in trouble during school and he runs the out of you till u want to quit. Practice starts the first day of school even though the first game isnt untill November. Thats what the concept of team is. Not going off and doing what you want at the expense of the team.
    You know you could break your leg or even hurt your knee if you run crosscountry? So don´t run.
    You know that you can be shot with shotgun in the scool by some crazy punk? So stay home, it is safer.
    You know you could get hit by some drunk driver when you try to go to the other side of the street and you can get hurt or even die? So stay at home, it is safer and you will become the gratest NBA player of all times, but watch out about crazy fans, thay could hurt you trying to get your signature, so don´t do it...etc...etc...

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    You know you could break your leg or even hurt your knee if you run crosscountry? So don´t run.
    You know that you can be shot with shotgun in the scool by some crazy punk? So stay home, it is safer.
    You know you could get hit by some drunk driver when you try to go to the other side of the street and you can get hurt or even die? So stay at home, it is safer and you will become the gratest NBA player of all times, but watch out about crazy fans, thay could hurt you trying to get your signature, so don´t do it...etc...etc...
    Not the same at all

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    This...

    They can't ever prohibit them from doing these things, but I do think the team should be allowed to void a guaranteed contract in the event a player gets seriously hurt doing these things. To me you draw the line where a serious risk of injury or death is knowingly probable. If you get hurt playing ball with your kids in the yard - that is a fluke thing and that injury under normal cir stances cannot be predicted. On the other hand, if you get hurt riding a motorcycle with no helmet, skydiving, rock climbing, or driving a McLaren 180 down the road - those are all activities that serious injury or death can reasonably occur while doing. In the case of these risky activities the team should have the option to cut the player loose and void the contract all together.
    ...directly contradicts this:

    You know you could break your leg or even hurt your knee if you run crosscountry? So don´t run.
    You know that you can be shot with shotgun in the scool by some crazy punk? So stay home, it is safer.
    You know you could get hit by some drunk driver when you try to go to the other side of the street and you can get hurt or even die? So stay at home, it is safer and you will become the gratest NBA player of all times, but watch out about crazy fans, thay could hurt you trying to get your signature, so don´t do it...etc...etc...
    There's a difference between doing something where the chances of injury are high, and doing something where the chances of injury are low. I agree with "Beer Is Good" and Mavs man 41. The clause sounds like the most reasonable thing to me. I don't mean to incite a riot but my 2 cents is:

    I think it's important not to forget how you got to where you are. Some players may get popular by playing for their national teams, but I'm quite certain that most attain their status by playing in the NBA.

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    FYI, many teams do have contracts saying that players can't ride motorcycles etc etc, but there is a big difference in playing basketball and riding a motorcycle.

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    to bad tp could school manu
    Showing your true colors, huh ducks?

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