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    Ohhh and besides, the original point was that hominid fossils containing obvious physiological differences with modern-day humans don't necessary mean that they were different species. That is the conclusion that is always drawn.

    And if highly advanced primates did in fact exist what's to say that they weren't created by GOD from the get-go. Their existence doesn't necessarily mean that they were our geneological ancestors.
    Last edited by hegamboa; 08-20-2006 at 09:14 AM.

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    Ohhh and besides, the original point was that hominid fossils containing obvious physiological differences when compared with modern-day humans don't necessary mean that they were different species.

    And if highly advanced primates did in fact exist what's to say that they weren't created by GOD from the get-go. Their existence doesn't necessarily mean that they were our geneological ancestors.
    you're such a little . I think Jebus would want you to rest up for Sunday mass instead of trying to teach us obstinate heathens your voodoo. pwnt

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    I'll take this smeagol

    Well, he believes in the bible, correct? Go read up on it, see how long they give earth's history.
    Where is the age of earth explicitly stated? I don't believe I've read that verse.

    I am not about to research Heg's entire post history so it can apppease you.
    Well then don't go around calling people re s just because their opinion differs from yours. If and when you want to be that bold it is in your best interest to be as informed as possible on the subjectmatter at hand including being knowledgable about the perspectives of those involved in the discussion.

    You came in here shooting your pistol left and right and then expected a legitimate response? It doesn't work that way.

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    you're such a little . I think Jebus would want you to rest up for Sunday mass instead of trying to teach us obstinate heathens your voodoo. pwnt
    I'm an insomniac of sorts...

    Owned?? Please... go spew your ignorance elsewhere...

    Edit: But this thread is putting me to sleep... so nighty night.

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    I am not about to research Heg's entire post history so it can apppease you.
    That is one of your many problems. You don't read entire threads and respond to a particular post without the full knowledge of what's going on. At the end of the day, it makes you look stupid.

    If you don't believe me ask around. It's not just me , there are plenty of posters who think you are a re .

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    aaaahhhh funny!!!

    No, to your dismay I don't hinge my beliefs on the discovery of angel fossils... (kind of reminds me of a Simpsons episode)

    The point I was making was that I don't need to have first-hand contact with something in order to believe in it -- i.e. I don't require the discovery of fossilized angelic remains, to believe that some angels crossbred with humanity -- or for that matter than angels exist. Nor do I need for you or anybody else to retreive/create anti-matter in order for me to believe that anti-matter exists. One was written down in the Torah of Jewish history, and the other is a valid scientific theory. I happen to believe them both.
    wow...

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    not wow, but

    These "religious" freaks can believe anything that they and their thought-meisters pull out of their asses. They're way out their with their Kool-Aid drinking, comet-tail-riding, polygamous "brethern".

    Which is their right, just don't try to force this wacko bull into public school curriricula or other tax-supported govt venues.

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    not wow, but

    These "religious" freaks can believe anything that they and their thought-meisters pull out of their asses. They're way out their with their Kool-Aid drinking, comet-tail-riding, polygamous "brethern".

    Which is their right, just don't try to force this wacko bull into public school curriricula or other tax-supported govt venues.

    1) The angelic/human hybrids are written in the Bible for one... I've stated repeatedly that this is an opinion emanating from Biblical reference.

    2) Polygamy was destructive for all those who entered such relationships in the Bible. In fact the Bible doesn't endorse it.

    3) When have I clamored for the subject of angels to be taught in schools? Yeah that's what I thought.

    4) I don't like kool-aid

    5) Boutons_ gets owned again.

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    ROFL when i saw this thread and that hememegoaboa was the last posted, I had to read it and laugh out loud because hememgoaboa doesnt believe in evolutionary evolution, and to make matters worse, he doesnt just keep to himself about it, he loves to argue against it on internet spursbased politcal forums, and hes quick to tell you how many ivy league degrees he has

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    ROFL when i saw this thread and that hememegoaboa was the last posted, I had to read it and laugh out loud because hememgoaboa doesnt believe in evolutionary evolution, and to make matters worse, he doesnt just keep to himself about it, he loves to argue against it on internet spursbased politcal forums, and hes quick to tell you how many ivy league degrees he has
    Impressive post.

    Thanks

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    ROFL when i saw this thread and that smeagol was the last posted, i had to read it and laugh out loud because smeagol is hememegoaboas little anti evolution buddy

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    You are funny Mooks.

    You are like BH. You Don't really care about reading other poster's views. You simply go out and write the first dumb thought that pops into your brain.

    I disagree on my things with hegamboa, but I respect his views. I don't believe Genesis is to be interpreted leterally and I believe in evolution as part of God's plan for humanity. It's pretty clear to me the human race is not the result of chance.

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    ROFL when i saw this thread and that hememegoaboa was the last posted, I had to read it and laugh out loud because hememgoaboa doesnt believe in evolutionary evolution, and to make matters worse, he doesnt just keep to himself about it, he loves to argue against it on internet spursbased politcal forums, and hes quick to tell you how many ivy league degrees he has

    Only when someone asks... or blindly attacks my scientific credentials. You make it seem like my degree is plastered on my avatar....

    Feeling a little inferior are we? Who's laughing now?

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    Even athiest believe...

    Associated Press


    NEW YORK - A British philosophy professor who has been a leading champion of atheism for more than a half-century has changed his mind. He now believes in God - more or less - based on scientific evidence, and says so on a video released Thursday.

    At age 81, after decades of insisting belief is a mistake, Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature, Flew said in a telephone interview from England.

    Flew said he's best labeled a deist like Thomas Jefferson, whose God was not actively involved in people's lives.

    "I'm thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian and far and away from the God of Islam, because both are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, cosmic Saddam Husseins," he said. "It could be a person in the sense of a being that has intelligence and a purpose, I suppose."

    Flew first made his mark with the 1950 article "Theology and Falsification," based on a paper for the Socratic Club, a weekly Oxford religious forum led by writer and Christian thinker C.S. Lewis.

    Over the years, Flew proclaimed the lack of evidence for God while teaching at Oxford, Aberdeen, Keele, and Reading universities in Britain, in visits to numerous U.S. and Canadian campuses and in books, articles, lectures and debates.

    There was no one moment of change but a gradual conclusion over recent months for Flew, a spry man who still does not believe in an afterlife.

    Yet biologists' investigation of DNA "has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce (life), that intelligence must have been involved," Flew says in the new video, "Has Science Discovered God?"

    The video draws from a New York discussion last May organized by author Roy Abraham Varghese's Ins ute for Metascientific Research in Garland, Texas. Participants were Flew; Varghese; Israeli physicist Gerald Schroeder, an Orthodox Jew; and Roman Catholic philosopher John Haldane of Scotland's University of St. Andrews.

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    Only when someone asks... or blindly attacks my scientific credentials. You make it seem like my degree is plastered on my avatar....
    Feeling a little inferior are we? Who's laughing now?
    you DONT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION

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    So, because this is what you believe, everybody else should also believe it?

    At heart, you are a facist.
    Um, dude. Do you understand what a missionary is? I don't think any staunch Christian should make statements like these without first considering where they stand in the same regard.

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    Ah screw it, I couldn't get past smeagols post and I think I'll just back out of this thread before I go any further. Same old .

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    Ah screw it, I couldn't get past smeagols post and I think I'll just back out of this thread before I go any further. Same old .
    exactly

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    so its pretty obivious the left doesn't like descent as well as the right.... the age of statesmanship is long gone.... probably do to the evolution of survival of the fittest...

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    Ah screw it, I couldn't get past smeagols post and I think I'll just back out of this thread before I go any further. Same old .

    Fine, you're en led to believe what you want to. Some people are just curious to know what the criticisms on 'the other side' happen to be... I can at least offer them that. That's what this forum is for, isn't it???... intellectual discussion.
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    Since when is spouting your freak-o religious beliefs "intellectual discussion" ? You flatter yourself.

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    you DONT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION
    Not by its mainstream definition, no. What we observe in nature and the processes we see are the handiwork of GOD -- not random chance.

    Biological perfection could not have been the result of chance alone.

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    Since when is spouting your freak-o religious beliefs "intellectual discussion" ? You flatter yourself.
    Look in the mirror Mr. Hate.

    Whether or not you realize it, your 'religion' is characterized by hate itself.


    Edit: Besides if you can't discern the difference between my Christian opinions and my scientific statements, don't just assume I'm trying to convert people.

    You seem to avoid heavily laden scientific topics and wait until a buzzword like 'angel' or 'Jesus' pops out, to claim that the whole thing reeks with religiosity. Where were you to offer up counterpoint on the topic of DNA origins??? Or was that topic not 'intellectual' enough for you?
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    Not by its mainstream definition, no. What we observe in nature and the processes we see are the handiwork of GOD -- not random chance.

    Biological perfection could not have been the result of chance alone.



    I agree, I just dont think god gave a if dog had a brown tail, and if we all had big brows and and everything else was the same, you would still say that was biological perfection. AND evolutionary evolution should be taught in every public school in america, and even if we might somewhat agree, you arguing against it benefits the dumbest, most neocon theocrats, to not teach the science is an injustice and making up names like intelligent design and changing textbooks, and having different policies in everyother district or state is even more heinous

    didnt you once say the earth was 6,000 years old?

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    I agree, I just dont think god gave a if dog had a brown tail, and if we all had big brows and and everything else was the same, you would still say that was biological perfection.
    Harmonious biological diversity is most definitely an attribute of perfection.

    AND evolutionary evolution should be taught in every public school in america, and even if we might somewhat agree, you arguing against it benefits the dumbest, most neocon theocrats, to not teach the science is an injustice and making up names like intelligent design and changing textbooks, and having different policies in everyother district or state is even more heinous

    didnt you once say the earth was 6,000 years old?
    I've been flexible on that one. I'm inclined for a young earth theory. BUT I've always said I could be wrong. Several factors exist for evidence of a young earth.

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