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    The better are bigger balls for pro's,
    I like size numba se7en

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    2 things Bruno

    1. 3pt line is where it should be in NBA. You do not want to have a traffic on the floor. Remember the 1996? And Shaq 3pointer (was it 96?). To me that kind of spaceing is important and do not allowe the players who cannot hit from beyond the line to "take a chance"

    2. The defensive 3 seconds to me is a good decision. It ofcourse kills some of the zone but allowe players going to the baseline more and that's good.
    1. I'm not sure that having a 3 point line 1ft or 2ft closer will have a huge influence on the spacing.

    2. It helps slashers and a dunk is more impressive than a jumpshot but jumpshoots are a huge part of basket : it's not only a atheltic game but it's too a skill game. I find that nba is too much a slashing league.

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    1. I'm not sure that having a 3 point line 1ft or 2ft closer will have a huge influence on the spacing.
    So why do you want a new line?


    2. It helps slashers and a dunk is more impressive than a jumpshot but jumpshoots are a huge part of basket : it's not only a atheltic game but it's too a skill game. I find that nba is too much a slashing league.
    Maybe so. But I think it was starting with Jordan and Nique and "showtime".

    But yes we can see a tendency to slash 50% of the time. Wade, james are the excamples which should not be followed. But they are the kids of Jordans era. Who we can blame for what has happened to the game?

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    So why do you want a new line?
    because I want that everybody play with the same 3 point line and the NBA 3 point line is too far for young players (NCAA, high school, U20, U18...). A 3 point line at 22 ft is a good solution to me.

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    ehhhhh

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    wtf are you talking about?
    Yeah, I mean that FIBA basket is inferior. Just look next OCtober when the CSKA MOSCOW (Euroleague Champion ) vs. SPURS .-

    US Basket is not representative of Whole NBA.- In NBA there are some ballclubs that play with some strategy.

    Gus

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    Yeah, I mean that FIBA basket is inferior. Just look next OCtober when the CSKA MOSCOW (Euroleague Champion ) vs. SPURS .-

    US Basket is not representative of Whole NBA.- In NBA there are some ballclubs that play with some strategy.

    Gus
    October?

    You wanna bet about the spread?

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    October?

    You wanna bet about the spread?

    Spurs by no less than 15.-

    Ettore Messina is a good coach, but has no chance

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    1. FIBA Trapezoid Lane > NBA Rectangle Lane
    It spaces the floor better and allows more back cuts to the basket; which are always entertaining to watch.

    2. NBA 3pt line > FIBA 3pt line
    For the same reasoning as number 1, it too spaces the floor better.

    3. NBA 48 minute game (12 minute quarters) > FIBA 40 minute game (10 minute quarters)
    No one wants to pay for such a short show!!!

    4. FIBA Goaltending Rule > NBA Goaltending Rule
    It only happens maybe five or six times per game... but it makes the game more interesting and dramatic. Imagine tapping out a game winning free-throw as it is rattling around the rim... DRAMA!!!

    5. NBA 6 personal foul limit > FIBA 5 personal foul limit
    No one wants to see star players in foul trouble every single game do they???

    6. FIBA Ball > NBA Ball
    I've always thought the NBA ball was too big... I know my hands aren't as big as players from the NBA but slightly smaller balls allow for better dribbling... less deflections, and require better rebounding instincts. Not to mention more people are able to dunk it...

    7. FIBA time out rule > NBA time out rule
    I like the fact that only the coach can call time outs... It gives the game more flow.

    8. NBA playoff series format > FIBA single elimination format
    Best of 3 would be a suitable compromise. And what's with all these back-to-backs in an official tournament? People want to see teams match up against each other with their better rested selves.

    9. NBA Refs and FIBA Refs both suck....
    -- when will they incorporate better technologies?
    -- FIBA refs miss several calls due to lack of consistency among the different world leagues...
    -- NBA refs miss calls due to owner intimidation and the Stern-factor... and for wanting to take the spotlight...
    Nice, i totally agree with this. I can sign this now!

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    October?

    You wanna bet about the spread?
    Are you saying CSKA is going to cover or that they will win? Nobody GAF if they cover the spread. He's saying that an NBA team is still better than a Euroleague team, and I agree. The big downfall for the US in the FIBA tourneys isn't talent, it's teamwork, and that isn't a problem for a real team that is used to playing together. It's only when they throw together these hodgepodge groups of ball dominators that the US is in trouble.

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    Sorry it is not CSKA, it is Maccabi Tel Aviv ( Finalist in Euroleague in the last 3 seasons and champion in two of them ).

    Anyway the point is the same.-

    Gus

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    Are you saying CSKA is going to cover or that they will win? Nobody GAF if they cover the spread. He's saying that an NBA team is still better than a Euroleague team, and I agree. The big downfall for the US in the FIBA tourneys isn't talent, it's teamwork, and that isn't a problem for a real team that is used to playing together. It's only when they throw together these hodgepodge groups of ball dominators that the US is in trouble.

    FIBA basket is inferior
    I thought maybe a spread will be a nice solution.

    Just keep that in mind- the spurs game.

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    October?

    You wanna bet about the spread?
    I thought maybe a spread will be a nice solution.

    Just keep that in mind- the spurs game.
    If FIBA > NBA why do you need a spread. A top Euroleague team should be able to beat a top NBA team. That is if you really believe that FIBA > NBA BS.

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    Some of you haven't understand this thread.
    It's not : "Are euroleague's teams better than nba's team ?"
    It's : "What kind of BB do you like more : FIBA or NBA?"

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    If FIBA > NBA why do you need a spread. A top Euroleague team should be able to beat a top NBA team. That is if you really believe that FIBA > NBA BS.
    Do you know what I believe?

    Nope

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    Do you know what I believe?

    Nope


    I dont think you know what you believe.

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    I dont think you know what you believe.
    Realy?

    Why you think so?


    Or maybe it's just you who reads in mind hm?

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    Realy?

    Why you think so?


    Or maybe it's just you who reads in mind hm?
    Kid all you do is contradict yourself. You are either a hypocrite or you are talking out your ass to get your post count up.

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    Kid all you do is contradict yourself. You are either a hypocrite or you are talking out your ass to get your post count up.
    First of all kid what is your problem?
    Second - shiet man. Where I have said that FIBA is better then NBA? Find me that post. The feackin serious one.
    Third - If it makes you happy I can ignore you
    Forth - you wanna talk about basketball talk about basketball

    ps. I think I have to explain my every post - damn.

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    I do not like usa TEAM much. But I do not hate them. But sometimes I just want to angry some of the posters here. But you don't know that.
    More or less.

    And the others who were so fascinated in usa basketball.

    What a losers
    I can read the NBA pussie fans, and then I know what is important in basketball.


    Frankly speaking that was just an irony.
    Stupid leauge

    pussies and complainers
    I root for Argentina ofcourse. I do not like the usa much.
    USA suck a$$


    GO argentina go! But I think Spain will win it all this year


    1) My problem is that you have been hating on Team USA, NBA, and U.S. since day 1.

    2) WTF are you doing on this NBA related forum following a U.S. team (Spurs) if you dislike the above mentioned things so much?

    3) Do you think it would fly if I went to a Polish league (or any other country’s) site and talked about their league, national team, and country?

    4) Why don’t you use a little common sense and think before you post.

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    Some of you haven't understand this thread.
    It's not : "Are euroleague's teams better than nba's team ?"
    It's : "What kind of BB do you like more : FIBA or NBA?"
    Yes it is the point, because the main source of FIBA (Including Argentina, Greece and Spain NT ) is Euroleague and where best FIBA basket is played.
    And in USA best basket is NBA.-

    Gus

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    Another issue.

    If FIBA is better than NBA why in the the best players of FIBA are NBA

    (From the All tournament 4 of 5 are in NBA ) In the last compe ion 5/5.-

    The best players are the Gasol, Ginobili, Nowitzki, Anthony and so on.

    FIBA is about pride for your country.-

    Gus

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    Yes it is the point
    No, this thread isn't about comparing the level of FIBA and NBA.
    It's about what you like more, you can like more FIBA than NBA even if the level in nba is higher.
    Re-read the first post : it's "I like more FIBA than NBA because refs are better and it's more team oriented" and not "FIBA level is higher than NBA level"

    It's true that NBA level is higher than FIBA level but it's not the point of this thread.

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    1) My problem is that you have been hating on Team USA, NBA, and U.S. since day 1.

    2) WTF are you doing on this NBA related forum following a U.S. team (Spurs) if you dislike the above mentioned things so much?

    3) Do you think it would fly if I went to a Polish league (or any other country’s) site and talked about their league, national team, and country?

    4) Why don’t you use a little common sense and think before you post.
    Is this guy for real?






    Do not worry. I'm not hating NBA. I love NBA man.
    My problem with usa basketball is their basketball arrogance. When Larry and Gregg were coaches it looked diferently. But few guys are pissing me off. Like most real bball fans. So you know.
    I just wanted to provoke some of the posters etc. I do things like that.
    Another thing is that I use dangerous sarcasm.

    That is it.

    Be well

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    No, this thread isn't about comparing the level of FIBA and NBA.
    It's about what you like more, you can like more FIBA than NBA even if the level in nba is higher.
    Re-read the first post : it's "I like more FIBA than NBA because refs are better and it's more team oriented" and not "FIBA level is higher than NBA level"

    It's true that NBA level is higher than FIBA level but it's not the point of this thread.

    OK, if it like you said. Yes I like more the concept of FIBA team oriented play, but regarding refs. in FIBA THEY SUCK.

    Just watch Euroleague and you-ll see that refs. has more influence in results than in NBA.

    That-s the reason why all Serbian, Greek and European Coaches stay the whole match protesting. That is in order to do not get robbed.

    FIBA with the boss Boris Stankovic directed the officiating to give the top European countries some advantage. For me FIBA EUROPE refs are mafia.

    But Australian and southamerican referees are pretty cool and up to the standard of basket. The american officers are very good IMO.

    So.= FIBA GAMe is OK, FIBA OFFICERS IN EUROPE SUCKS.

    gus

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