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Here's a pic of one of those barbs taken out of a turtle. That's some serious damage right there.
Yeah, here's the heartbreaker on this one. I read a story online from one of the Australian papers that said he was filming an episode that was going to focus on his eight year old daughter and about the gentle creatures that children could interact with, and one of them was supposed to be the sting ray.I imagine one of those killing him was probably the last thing on Irwin's mind...and his do entary was probably going to be about how friendly and tame they are.
Sad.
I agree about the ray alley stuff, I've had them slide over my face and mask before on one of those dives in Belize. I admit that I thought about the stinger on it's back, but they are so used to be people it wasn't a big deal and I never felt scared.
Here's a pic of one of those barbs taken out of a turtle. That's some serious damage right there.
10 minute Australian news reel talking about his life and what happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8h6yXREbV0
Son of a ! I was just impersonating him on the phone yesterday...talk about bad timing. I loved his shows so much. This is a ing terrible day.
We're just not going to agree on this, AH. I don't buy that because his dad did it that was safe or sane behavior, and this sad incident backs me up. I also don't see many people doing the same things he did for public consumption. Any copycats who might be will be given pause by this tragedy.
I don't see him as some great animal scientist, although he might have been. What he did on TV was irritate the animals until he provoked one of their attack/predatory/defensive responses. That ultimately cost him his life.
That sucks.
But it was bound to happen, this guy was always with the most dangerous creatures in the world. He used to dive into rivers at night with no visibility trying to catch crocs/gators, he handled I don't know how many different venomous snakes that easily have enough venom in one bite to kill him, so considering all the crap he's done, he made it pretty far.
That sucks though, I was a Crocodile Hunter fan.
RIP Steve Irwin
How did irritating a sting ray cause him his life? It sounds like a freak accident to me. Nowhere does it say that he was provoking the animals in any way.
Though I can see the point of those who say 'he had it coming' (though I do not agree at all), right now is not the time to say that. Someone who meant a lot to a whole lot of people is DEAD and perhaps your little taunts are better left for later or perhaps they should just be kept to yourself.
I am willing to bet he has saved dozens of lives of people who used info they learned from his various shows to save thier own lives or the lives of others. Perhaps a little reverence is due for this reason alone, not to mention that fact that a father, husband and son who led a good life is dead.
you don't know what you are talking about so shut up, he was a great man that educated people and did amazing things for animals and the enviroment. stop messing up this thread, and just let people pay their respects to an amazing human being!
It's true though, what I said is nothing close to an attack at him, I was a fan of his show. All I simply said was that it was bound to happen because of the lethal animals he was always dealing with.
But that isn't taking anything away from what I think of him.
Mel, I'm going by what I see on his shows. He DOES provoke animals. He grabs them, jumps on them, and is a general irritant, or was.Nowhere does it say that he was provoking the animals in any way.
This was not a ray from a feeding area, used to human contact. They said he was swimming above it. Perhaps it interpreted him as a predator on the attack, and acted on that. I'm sad for his family, but he took the risks and paid the price. Now his little boy will grow up without a dad. You see it as sad. I see it as sad and totally unnecessary, a waste. Plenty of people educate the public about animals without putting them into a headlock.
Actually, I wasn't referring to you, AlvarezIt is obvious you have some reverence for him. I was speaking of those who give the impression of pissing on his memory, which you clearly are not.
doing what he did was his life, why would he stop doing something that made him who he is, he was doing this at a very young age, this is what he loved to do.
their is alway one idiot in a thread
"You can only dodge a bullet for so long"
--pimpo, e.
There's God knows how many copy cats with shows on Discover and Animal Planet.We're just not going to agree on this, AH. I don't buy that because his dad did it that was safe or sane behavior, and this sad incident backs me up. I also don't see many people doing the same things he did for public consumption. Any copycats who might be will be given pause by this tragedy.
He also did a lot of animal relocation, to take big crocs/snakes and move them away from population centers where they could have killed or injured people, and probably been killed themselves (the animals), a win-win situation for both man and animal.I don't see him as some great animal scientist, although he might have been. What he did on TV was irritate the animals until he provoked one of their attack/predatory/defensive responses. That ultimately cost him his life.
He also had the premier croc rehabilitation clinic in the world. But yeah, I can see how someone who probably only knows him from the jokes people used to make about his shows would draw the conclusions you have
Further, I haven't seen a report yet that said he was interacting with it. Actually, I just found this on CNN:
As a diver, I generally like to kick along maybe 1-2 feet off the bottom, you get to see more stuff that way and you catch the little things that most people miss. It may very well be that he never saw what hit him, sting rays are experts at camoflaging themselves in the sand."He came over the top of a stingray that was buried in the sand, and the barb came up and hit him in the chest," Irwin's manager John Stainton said.
He was hit by a bull ray, for some perspective:
Steve Irwin jumping on alligator
I still miss that man and all my family was shocked at the news when they found out.
Did y'all hear that little bit towards the end that mentioned it was a day after Father's Day over there? Oh my gosh. That was a really good youtube.
I guess that's my point, in a nuts .
I think you've been spotted.
I always thought he'd die from a snake bite. Dude would aggitate, and toy with deadly snakes like it was some sort of game. I saw a few close calls, and figured it was only a matter of time before one of them landed a lucky strike.
Can't say I'm all that suprised. Sad situation though.
Hater. How dare you point out his recklessness? This is the time to canonize him.
Nobody is looking for cannonization. He is far from a saint. But a little reverence for a man who educated many and did some good for many communities and the environment would be nice. Just a little. Maybe let his body get cold before you let the snarky "i-told-you-so's" and what not. But to each their own.
His style was way over the top for me, too hyper-ventilating, too manic, too meth-fueled, as if he thought his audience, apparently mostly kids or childish adults, would switch off if an adult spoke and acted like an ... adult. I often wondered what kind of message he sent to kids about acceptable adult behavior. He was pretty confusing, maybe confused? Were his shows about him, or about the animals? They certainly weren't lessons about how to act near dangerous animals.
His stunts were often in the MTV "Jackass" genre, aka "watch how ing cretinous I can be with these dangerous animals for no point whatsoever", or "watch me outdo MJ-dangle-baby-over-balcony". I think it only fair that they show what he or his crew was doing to provoke an attack by a sting ray, apparently an animal that is quite passive. Maybe it will show up someday on YouTube. Win some, lose one. I'm sure the advertizers would pay many $millions for that epilogue. Sorry for his family. Apparently, his success means that they are financially secure.
Apparently he did reach a millions of people, and off TV, did a lot for good for wildlife conservation.
He exposed people to the 'human' side of these creatures so that they wouldn't be perceived only as monsters.... Usually he would pick them up... show them to the world, explain a few things about the species, and put them back in their surroundings. There was nothing wrong with that.
I hope they show that South Park episode he was in soon. I don't remember it too well.
http://www.oceanfootage.com/stockfoo...5524f357358d8b
You can see the barb about halfway down the tail on 2 of these clips (2 and 4).
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