It's all BS. Enough "aggressive interrogation techniques" have been applied so that all their cases are completely trashed. There are two underlying goals that I can see. One is the next election. The other is to stall freeing them as long as possible.
Meaning that if it were a choice between your principles and your life, you would easily give up what you profess to believe in for your life.
The implication is cowardice and hypocrisy. I might add a lack of reading comprehension to that for good measure.
So you *do* want your country to do the right thing?
You *do* want your country to stand for something noble?
Exactly. Boutons may be a bit over the top most times, but the naked politics he has detailed here, the bits that the administration is attempting just before the election are sickening.
Clinton was bashed all to for military strikes during the lewinski scandal, and the same people that did that give Bush a ride for doing similar right before an election. Bush offers a ton of new "proof" how well his administration, and by extension the GOP, is doing in the "war" on terror, and all of this coincidentally right before a crucial mid-term election when people are really starting to realize how badly his policies have failed to do what he said they would.
Meaning that if it were a choice between your principles and your life, you would easily give up what you profess to believe in for your life.
The implication is cowardice and hypocrisy. I might add a lack of reading comprehension to that for good measure.
You think I have a lack of reading comprehension? Based on what jackass. Watch this, I think you're a ing idiot that will never amount to anything and be a dissapointment to your children
You think I have a lack of reading comprehension? Based on what jackass. Watch this, I think you're a ing idiot that will never amount to anything and be a dissapointment to your children
So you *do* want your country to do the right thing?
You *do* want your country to stand for something noble?
Hey, dip , show me one criminal in jail that has killed three thousand people in one fell swoop.
I'll even give you a whole day for your democraticunderground.org bulletin board reply bot to come up with a name.
I would have to sever you from Google first.
Make you a deal.
We'll find a neutral party, and then both take the state department civil service exam, and have the scores sent to the neutral party.
Not the point.
The point is that they were given trials, and, even as prisoners, have rights. Basic, unalienable rights are the foundation of democratic principles.
Some of them may be peices of irredeemable , but they are still human.
Deny people rights, and you have gone back on some very deeply rooted ideals central to America.
Where were you and croutons crying about rights of people in Iraq who are getting their heads chopped off or riddled with bullets because they don't pledge allegiance to Osama?
Howabout when they blow up women and children as long as they can kill one US troop or one Iraqi policeman when they do it?
I don't see either of you ing about that. The chicken s you are, you blame it all on Bush.
In short, I could give a damn about your sorrow over this. I'd rather we make them stand on one leg for 14 hours listening to Yani than see another terrorist attack on American soil.
We're dealing with people who want us dead. Not peace, not a resolution of understanding, they want me, you, Bush, croutons, everyone dead.
And you guys want our country to fight that with both hands tied behind its back because heavenforbid we should threaten to break some guy's knuckles one by one to get him to talk.
Wake the up, we're fighting for the right of Americans, as well as all of Western civilization, to continue to exist.
Just admit you don't give a about the terrorists, you just hate what our intelligence folks are doing because it's preventing attacks on this country. And if an attack happens, then you get to blame it on Bush and that's all you give a about. It's all anyone in the democratic party gives a about.
That's right. You have manipulated me into thinking you are an idiot.
Your evil plan is working.
Get a grip, less aggie twerp, you're going to get owned a lot more times if you stick your dumb bonehead in this forum. Bend over, grab your ankles, and grin.
That is every bit a tragedy, cruel, and evil.
Do you seriously think that I think this stuff is good?
"rights of people in Iraq who are getting their heads chopped off "
Muslims killing Muslims 10K miles from USA.
WTF does this have to do with my USA security? Swords are WMD?
So you are saying where this type of murder is going on, eg, Darfur, Zimbabwe, east Africa, etc, that the USA should invade and start a war for another $1T to stop it?
btw, Americans murder more Americans every ing year, year in and year out, than Muslims ever have murdered or ever will muder, and I don't see you justifying martial law and federal troops in LA, Chicago, Baltimaore to save America from itself. I guess these 15K+ Americans murdered every year just don't have enough oil worth fighting for?
Is a Muslim beheading Muslims your ex post facto justification #38 for The War That Never Was and Still Isn't Justifiable?
Clinton is fully to blame for WTC and the dubya/ head aren't.
The Iraq was was/is justified and the USA is winning it.
Any other bull you, Whott, and Yoni want to keep throwing around?
Honestly, you sound like you hate America more and more every day.
This sounds like far more time and effort then I'm willing to put in.
He's not saying that you think this stuff is good, he's saying that you guys never make mention of these things.
Ok, I will. They are evil things, the people that do them are de able.
Done.
That said, do they work for my government?
So, you are only allowed to criticize your own government?
You guys keep throwing out the statment that our cons ution guarantees certain rights. Well, that's right - but since it's the Cons ution of the United States, those rights ONLY apply to American citizens!
These terrorists should not be granted the same rights and privileges as our citizens - and I believe most americans understand this (except for Dan, boutons and Randomguy).
"ONLY apply to American citizens!"
So human beings who are the ing unluckiest human beings in the universe because they don't hold US citizenship are what, legally, vis a vis the USA?
legal dogs?
legal rocks?
legal potatoes?
legal microbes?
So legal and illegal visitors in the USA who commit crimes are not protected by and processed according by the US legal system?
Give up, Crookie, you've already admitted your mind was closed hermetically shut when you were 9 years old and you prove it every time you open your mouth.
That said, do they work for my government?--RG
That is not an answer to my question.
The obvious answer to my question is no, the terrorists do NOT work for my government.
Their actions are actions that I can't and shouldn't be responsible for.
The actions of my government, a government that was democratically elected is much more relevant.
I can flagellate as much as I want to about how terrible the people we are dealing with are, but that won't make their behavior more ethical.
What I *can* do is affect my own government to act in an ethical manner. That is why I spend my time attempting to do so.
The fact that ethical behavior is one of the key weapons in the war on terror that will ultimately win it for us makes doing so all the more urgent.
So, if people we capture aren't US citizens, what moral responsibilities DO we owe people we capture?
, your mom wouldn't call me less, so shut the up.
I'm getting owned?
I'd tell you to bend over and take it up the ass, but you're too busy alternating between sucking Osama's and tossing Michael Moore's salad.
So young, and so dumb. Maybe one day you'll graduate junior high special ed and get a clue.
Hey dip . If the radislamists had anyone to project their power 10K miles, they'd be chopping off your head right now."rights of people in Iraq who are getting their heads chopped off "
Muslims killing Muslims 10K miles from USA.
WTF does this have to do with my USA security? Swords are WMD?
So you are saying where this type of murder is going on, eg, Darfur, Zimbabwe, east Africa, etc, that the USA should invade and start a war for another $1T to stop it?
btw, Americans murder more Americans every ing year, year in and year out, than Muslims ever have murdered or ever will muder, and I don't see you justifying martial law and federal troops in LA, Chicago, Baltimaore to save America from itself. I guess these 15K+ Americans murdered every year just don't have enough oil worth fighting for?
Is a Muslim beheading Muslims your ex post facto justification #38 for The War That Never Was and Still Isn't Justifiable?
Clinton is fully to blame for WTC and the dubya/ head aren't.
The Iraq was was/is justified and the USA is winning it.
Any other bull you, Whott, and Yoni want to keep throwing around?
What's comical is that if you ended up bound and gagged with some raghead POS sawing off your head with a butterknife, you'd still be giving him head until your last breathe.
I feel sorry for stupid s like you. You should just change your signature to 'Allah Akbar' and get it over with.
A piece of of a person who rapes and kills a child should have as close as no rights at all as possible.
Dito, for a terrorist who plans an attack to kill thousands of civilians (a la 9/11).
It's so annoying to see people more interested in defending these miserable human beings than caring about the victims themselves.
It's sickening.
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