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    Where were the perpetrators from?
    How is from what country their were originally from relevant, Einstein?

    They were AQ and AQ was hidding in Afghanistan, not Saudi Arabia. Therefore, the US invaded Afghanistan.

    Where did the ones hiding in Afghanistan go after that country was invaded?
    I'm confused. Aren't you the one who claims the US should go after Osama?

    In any case, the US got lazy because they should be looking in the mountains of Pakistan, still hunting for OBL, not monkeying around in Iraq.

    Sorry to make you think about it.
    Don't worry about me. In any case, you did not make me think that hard.

    But as I said before, the US-Afghanistan/Iraq analogy is a poor one. Those are more convensional wars, what Israel has to go throuigh is not a convensional war.

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    Thats great. When people stop trying to control other people then perhaps terrorists will cease to exsist. 50 years ago, violence against Isreal was due to religous ideology. Today it stems - as does much of the other terrorism in the world - to occupations and people fighting for independence. They use ty methods, but they use them because they work in the long run.

    I know its really great to have catch phrases like the only terrorist is a good one, but if you think you can kill every terrorist in the world or if you think this is a fight that will be won with killing then I'll talk to you 50 years from now when people may finally realize that you never end movements like this by killing. Never.
    terrorists are like roaches... they will always be around, but that doesn't mean you don't kill one if you see it.

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    We didn't bomb Afghanistan back to the stone age numb nuts.
    I don't think I have insulted you once in this thread, but whatever.

    Other than those "appropiate posters Manny has credibility with" that he recently spoke of, I think most posters interpret his churlish remark as reflecting on him and not his intended target.

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    These people remind me of those rubber-neckers on freeway that just have to stop and see what is going on at every little accident and then they cause even more when they create traffic flow problems.

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    I thought we bombed afghanastan back up to the stone age....

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    Other than those "appropiate posters Manny has credibility with" that he recently spoke of, I think most posters interpret his churlish remark as reflecting on him and not his intended target.
    manny is always right...

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    These people remind me of those rubber-neckers on freeway that just have to stop and see what is going on at every little accident and then they cause even more when they create traffic flow problems.

    i am suprised he doesn't have the kids in front of him for protection.. that is probably the next picture that we are not seeing

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    Other than those "appropiate posters Manny has credibility with" that he recently spoke of, I think most posters interpret his churlish remark as reflecting on him and not his intended target.
    Call me crazy but despite his insults, I'm actually fond of Manny
    Last edited by smeagol; 09-10-2006 at 10:06 AM.

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    Thats great. When people stop trying to control other people then perhaps terrorists will cease to exsist.
    Terrorists methods are never justified. I would like to see what you think if California ever wants to be independant from the rest of the US using terrorist methods. That's what ETA does with regards to the Basque territories. What I'm trying to say is that it not only about control the way you have implied it.


    50 years ago, violence against Isreal was due to religous ideology. Today it stems - as does much of the other terrorism in the world - to occupations and people fighting for independence. They use ty methods, but they use them because they work in the long run.
    What's your solution? Mine is to seperate Israelis and Palestinians, given that they cannot get along. Separate them all together.

    I know its really great to have catch phrases like the only terrorist is a good one, but if you think you can kill every terrorist in the world or if you think this is a fight that will be won with killing then I'll talk to you 50 years from now when people may finally realize that you never end movements like this by killing. Never.
    Tell this to Bush.

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    How is from what country their were originally from relevant, Einstein?
    There's more where they came from, Einstein. And they are getting money from those countries as well, Einstein.
    They were AQ and AQ was hidding in Afghanistan, not Saudi Arabia. Therefore, the US invaded Afghanistan.
    And where are they now?
    I'm confused. Aren't you the one who claims the US should go after Osama?
    And where is he now? Iraq?
    In any case, the US got lazy because they should be looking in the mountains of Pakistan, still hunting for OBL, not monkeying around in Iraq.
    Thanks for pretending my point is yours.
    Don't worry about me. In any case, you did not make me think that hard.
    Since you didn't know you agreed with me, you definitely didn't think that much.

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    I absolutely disagree that Mexican civillians would die in that manner. I never said no civillians died in Iraq or Afghanistan, I said that the Israeli military takes far fewer considerations as far as collateral damage is concerned. If you're going to try to disprove my arguments make sure you get them right.
    Well gee, Manny, how freakin' easy do the Palestinians and Hezbollah make it for Israel to avoid collateral damage?

    Seriously, they hold planning session, build their bombs, have their meetings, cache their weapons, and execute their attacks from among innocent Palestinian and Lebanese civilian populations.

    If they'd establish typical military installations and conduct their military activities in a more conventional manner, their enemies wouldn't be forced into such tough decisions. Maybe it only looks like the IDF is less considerate of these facts because they've been fighting these types of pathetic imbeciles for a lot longer than most other countries.

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    Thats great. When people stop trying to control other people then perhaps terrorists will cease to exsist. 50 years ago, violence against Isreal was due to religous ideology. Today it stems - as does much of the other terrorism in the world - to occupations and people fighting for independence. They use ty methods, but they use them because they work in the long run.

    I know its really great to have catch phrases like the only terrorist is a good one, but if you think you can kill every terrorist in the world or if you think this is a fight that will be won with killing then I'll talk to you 50 years from now when people may finally realize that you never end movements like this by killing. Never.
    Exactly which sovereign Hezbollah land is Israel occupying?

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    Isreal occupies Lebanese soil know was Shebaa Farms in the Golan.

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    Isreal occupies Lebanese soil know was Shebaa Farms in the Golan.
    Where should Israelis live then?

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    There's more where they came from, Einstein. And they are getting money from those countries as well, Einstein.
    AQ was organized in Afghanistan and that's were the US (rightly) went to fight the war against terrorism.

    The fact that the 9/11 terorists were from Saudi Arabia is irrelevant (which is one of the points you made, which makes little sense). They were trained by AQ who, to the best of our knowledge, was and is located in Afghanistan.

    With your same logic, given that that Reid fellow was a British citizen, the US should bomb the out of England.

    Thanks for pretending my point is yours.
    I don't know what your point is. It seems to be that because the 9/11 terrorists were from SA, we should attack that country. Obviously a stupid idea and certainly not what I said.

    Since you didn't know you agreed with me, you definitely didn't think that much.
    I probably agree with you that the war with Iraq was innecesary. There are many other things I do not agree with you.

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    AQ was organized in Afghanistan and that's were the US (rightly) went to fight the war against terrorism.
    No argument there.
    The fact that the 9/11 terorists were from Saudi Arabia is irrelevant
    Hardly.
    I don't know what your point is.
    Think harder.
    I probably agree with you that the war with Iraq was innecesary. There are many other things I do not agree with you.
    Amen.

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    Where should Israelis live then?
    Isreal. The settlements are entirely illegal although I'm not even sure there are any in that part of the Golan.

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    Isreal. The settlements are entirely illegal although I'm not even sure there are any in that part of the Golan.

    Well manny, when Palestinians, or any other arab group break a peace pact by escalating Israeli deaths, then the land that was given for peace is up for the taking, since the aggressors did not live up to their end of the deal.

    I mean that's how pacts/treaties/contracts go. Both parties have to live up to their word. So in that essence, Israel is doing nothing illegal.

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    No argument there.

    Hardly.

    Think harder.

    Amen.
    Explain to me what your point is Chump (in more than one line, please) because I have thought hard and I don't see it.

    You are against the war in Iraq but you sponsor a war against Saudi Arabia because that's where most of the 9/11 terrorists come from?

    By the way, OBL is also from SA (another reason to attack that kingdom, tright?)

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    Isreal. The settlements are entirely illegal although I'm not even sure there are any in that part of the Golan.
    Weren't Israel moving out of those "illegal" settlements some months ago and bulldozing them down?

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    Funny that you would use a religious word to note our differences, given that politically we probably agree in many respects.

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    Isreal occupies Lebanese soil know was Shebaa Farms in the Golan.
    Gasp! Oh no, how can those poor Lebanese people live with Israel occupying nearly 10 square miles of mostly worthless land? That just happens to offer the perfect position for launching rockets and s ing Israeli villages. Land that belonged to Syria, not Lebanon, until someone figured it could score a few more anti-Israel points if they said it was stolen Lebanese land.

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    Gasp! Oh no, how can those poor Lebanese people live with Israel occupying nearly 10 square miles of mostly worthless land? That just happens to offer the perfect position for launching rockets and s ing Israeli villages. Land that belonged to Syria, not Lebanon, until someone figured it could score a few more anti-Israel points if they said it was stolen Lebanese land.
    Well, I hope the tactical advantadge gained by the land is worth the strategic, diplomatic, and political disadvantadges it places it at. And Syria has said long ago the land belonged to Lebanon.

    Oh, and when people are willing to fight over it so much and die for it, I really doubt you can term it worthless.

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    Weren't Israel moving out of those "illegal" settlements some months ago and bulldozing them down?
    Sure, in Gaza. Too bad they continuing building them in the West Bank.

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    Funny that you would use a religious word to note our differences, given that politically we probably agree in many respects.
    Well, alot of the stuff discussed in here is axiomatic anyway, and no one seems like he would actually change any of the beliefs they bring to the table in the first place. I'd be a little worried if I agreed with everything any one poster had to say. The best I or anyone else could do is try to be more respectful. Fat chance, I know.

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