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    ?? "no real world experience?"

    Dude, counting the 4 yrs in the army, I have worked more in my adult life than I have been in school. What counts as "real world experience"?
    I respect your service, but real world business experience is what I'm referring to.

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    My opinion on posters who I don't agree with most of the time.

    Dan- Very intelligent but a communist
    Buttons- A communist but boy he knows his basketball.
    FWDT- Very good poster
    Manny- well informed don't agree with most of what he says but he's cool.
    RG- No real world experience and talks funny, but has potential.
    Chump- doesn't say anything but supports all liberal causes
    Does that mean you agree with me?

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    I respect your service, but real world business experience is what I'm referring to.
    What is your "real world" business experience? What is UNreal world business?

    Brevity is encouraged.

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    I'll further inquire, does time served in, say, the telemarketing trenches trump another's "real" world military experience, when it comes to business?

    Is "real" business that simplistic?

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    Chump- doesn't say anything but supports all liberal causes


    Whottt challenged me to take the political compass test. Turns out you're wrong. Nothing new.

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    I respect your service, but real world business experience is what I'm referring to.
    I built and delivered computers for 3 years too (mmm tech boom), does that count?

    After that, I started college and worked full/part time in a series of low pay jobs that offered the hours flexibility required by college students.
    Mostly, I worked in retail book stores (surprise), and eventually a security jobs that let me read and study while babysitting buildings at night.

    I have also started my own bookkeeping company and did quite well at that. My clients all would tell you that the $20/hour that I charged ended up saving them more money than I was costing them.

    Just because I like to read a lot, doesn't mean that I haven't gotten out into the "real" world of business. I don't do the bookkeeping thing anymore due to a sheer lack of time, but I still help out the occassional entrepeneur (neighbors mostly) by offering pro bono advice on taxes, labor, fixed costs, etc. Well maybe not pro bono, my fee is a cheap tex-mex meal and a beer.

    (shrugs)
    Some donate time to soup kitchens, I help people by educating them about business and finance.

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    Whottt challenged me to take the political compass test. Turns out you're wrong. Nothing new.

    Heh, I took that. Turns out that I share the same views with the Dalai Lama. His dot on the "world leader" graph and my score were almost identical.

    For whatever that is worth.

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    Whottt challenged me to take the political compass test. Turns out you're wrong. Nothing new.
    Yeah, because we all know you can't skew the results of the iron-clad "political compass test."

    I'm convinced.

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    Well, I'm convinced you're a compulsive liar who has never had an original thought in his tiny, death-loving head.

    Plenty of evidence here for that.

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    Well, I'm convinced you're a compulsive liar who has never had an original thought in his tiny, death-loving head.

    Plenty of evidence here for that.
    Okay. Thanks for playing.

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    Yeah, because we all know you can't skew the results of the iron-clad "political compass test."

    I'm convinced.

    Fallacy: Cir stantial Ad Hominem

    Description of Cir stantial Ad Hominem
    A Cir stantial ad Hominem is a fallacy in which one attempts to attack a claim by asserting that the person making the claim is making it simply out of self interest. In some cases, this fallacy involves subs uting an attack on a person's cir stances (such as the person's religion, political affiliation, ethnic background, etc.). The fallacy has the following forms:


    Person A makes claim X.
    Person B asserts that A makes claim X because it is in A's interest to claim X.
    Therefore claim X is false.

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    I built and delivered computers for 3 years too (mmm tech boom), does that count?

    After that, I started college and worked full/part time in a series of low pay jobs that offered the hours flexibility required by college students.
    Mostly, I worked in retail book stores (surprise), and eventually a security jobs that let me read and study while babysitting buildings at night.

    I have also started my own bookkeeping company and did quite well at that. My clients all would tell you that the $20/hour that I charged ended up saving them more money than I was costing them.

    Just because I like to read a lot, doesn't mean that I haven't gotten out into the "real" world of business. I don't do the bookkeeping thing anymore due to a sheer lack of time, but I still help out the occassional entrepeneur (neighbors mostly) by offering pro bono advice on taxes, labor, fixed costs, etc. Well maybe not pro bono, my fee is a cheap tex-mex meal and a beer.

    (shrugs)
    Some donate time to soup kitchens, I help people by educating them about business and finance.
    RG, I'm just looking for a little more "real" world experience from someone who makes the predictions and absolute statements that you do. Especially when you're talking about finance. I think you have potential, but IMO you think you know too much and should be open to opposing points of view.

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    I'll further inquire, does time served in, say, the telemarketing trenches trump another's "real" world military experience, when it comes to business?

    Is "real" business that simplistic?
    if it did there's no doubt you would have the most "real" world business experience.
    Last edited by 2centsworth; 09-28-2006 at 12:12 PM.

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    Does that mean you agree with me?
    sometimes yes and other times I don't know. I surely do like watching you, FWD, Scott, extrastout and some of the better posters go back and forth.

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    RG, I'm just looking for a little more "real" world experience from someone who makes the predictions and absolute statements that you do. Especially when you're talking about finance. I think you have potential, but IMO you think you know too much and should be open to opposing points of view.
    ...............nevermind, no sense in highlighting the obvious.

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    ...............nevermind, no sense in highlighting the obvious.
    you're blind.

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    You are wise and intelligent.

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    RG, I'm just looking for a little more "real" world experience from someone who makes the predictions and absolute statements that you do. Especially when you're talking about finance. I think you have potential, but IMO you think you know too much and should be open to opposing points of view.
    Looks like I had enough experience to have been right.

    I do listen to opposing views and take them into consideration.

    Evaluating what you read means taking the weight of EVERYTHING you read.

    You, unfortunately, are pretty much exactly what you say I am: someone who ONLY sees one side of an argument"

    You are a poster child for confirmation bias.

    I did take the optimistic accounts and used them to evaluate my underlying assumptions about the ultimate probability of a such a meltdown.

    The weight of evidence pointed to what eventually came to pass.

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    Really, how old are you? Seriously, you had me fooled into thinking you were at least an adult...until I read this post.

    As I just explained, I'm not ignoring Random Guy because I disagree with him. If that were the case, there'd be a whole lot more people on ignore. I put him on ignore, and would do the same with you if I could, because our discussions are neither productive or conclusive...they just go on forever and ever and ever.

    For those of you who asked the question, this is what I'm talking about. I call it feeding the monkey. Let's see if he throws more dung at me.
    Why can't you put Chump on ignore?

    edit: dang it, RandomGuy! Why do you keep bumping these old threads?!?!
    Once again, I just noticed the date.
    But I would still like to know why Chump can't be put on ignore.

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    Looks like I had enough experience to have been right.

    I do listen to opposing views and take them into consideration.

    Evaluating what you read means taking the weight of EVERYTHING you read.

    You, unfortunately, are pretty much exactly what you say I am: someone who ONLY sees one side of an argument"

    You are a poster child for confirmation bias.

    I did take the optimistic accounts and used them to evaluate my underlying assumptions about the ultimate probability of a such a meltdown.

    The weight of evidence pointed to what eventually came to pass.
    Do you know the market was up last week? You are the poster child for someone who wants his ego stroked, but even the reason why you "supposedly" predicted a market crash was wrong.

    It's obvious when things go bad you vindicated for some reason or another.

    The other side to this argument is the government needs to provide needed liquidity so financial insitutions aren't forced into fire sales. 12 months from now the market will be past this, but long-term if you ever took the time to read my post, I'm an economic pessimist.

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    Why can't you put Chump on ignore?

    edit: dang it, RandomGuy! Why do you keep bumping these old threads?!?!
    Once again, I just noticed the date.
    But I would still like to know why Chump can't be put on ignore.
    I used to me a mod and hence unignorable. No longer the case.

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    I used to me a mod and hence unignorable. No longer the case.

    ah

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    it will happen when people pull their money out of their IRA's and 401K's en mass. I am doing it tommorrow.
    That will be a stupid move. Right now, buying in at a lower stock price, you buy more shares each pay period. They will be rising your portfolio price when the market recovers. Now if you think the market will continue to drop, and confident in market timing, then move your stocks to something more stable. Then move back into stocks before the market rallys. Otherwise, the smartest move is to buy more at the lower prices, take your max 15% on the 401k! You will be happy when the market recovers!

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    it will happen when people pull their money out of their IRA's and 401K's en mass. I am doing it tommorrow.
    Word! Buy high sell low!

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